If the shoe was on the other foot.....*also Steve Smith BGT 2023 dismissals analysis*

[jalebi_bhai]

Steve Smith in BGT 2023 - 6 innings(at the time of making this thread) 135 runs

 

Virat Kohli at Ahmedabad 2023 - 186 runs

 

I understand Kohli made merry on a patta, but if these numbers were swapped, ICF would have been lynching Kohli even more than usual.

 

Smith's non-performance has ultimately proven to be the difference between an Oz win and loss.

 

Why have ICFers turned a blind eye to this?

[raki05]

3 minutes ago, jalebi_bhai said:

Steve Smith in BGT 2023 - 6 innings(at the time of making this thread) 135 runs

 

Virat Kohli at Ahmedabad 2023 - 186 runs

 

I understand Kohli made merry on a patta, but if these numbers were swapped, ICF would have been lynching Kohli even more than usual.

 

Smith's non-performance has ultimately proven to be the difference between an Oz win and loss.

 

Why have ICFers turned a blind eye to this?

Isn't that a good thing ???? Or shall we criticize smith for not scoring century against us and winning it for aus.

[jalebi_bhai]

6 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Isn't that a good thing ???? Or shall we criticize smith for not scoring century against us and winning it for aus.

It's not about whether it's good for India or not. 

 

We as a fan base are the quickest to discredit the performances of our own players. So why aren't we calling out a premier batsman like Smith, who has pretty much **** the bed in this high profile series?

[jalebi_bhai]

Where are the threads micro analysing Smith's failures on this tour? Why are ICFers silent? 

[Serpico]

Smith averages 60. First time he failed against india/England so he gets some slack. Did anyone Lynch Kohli when he failed in nz 2021? Its the continued failures 3 years that draw scrutiny 

[jalebi_bhai]

7 minutes ago, Serpico said:

Smith averages 60. First time he failed against india/England so he gets some slack. Did anyone Lynch Kohli when he failed in nz 2021? Its the continued failures 3 years that draw scrutiny 

Why do you think he failed this time around? His preparation was on point. Technically, what happened to him?

[speedracer]

57 minutes ago, jalebi_bhai said:

Steve Smith in BGT 2023 - 6 innings(at the time of making this thread) 135 runs

 

Virat Kohli at Ahmedabad 2023 - 186 runs

 

I understand Kohli made merry on a patta, but if these numbers were swapped, ICF would have been lynching Kohli even more than usual.

 

Smith's non-performance has ultimately proven to be the difference between an Oz win and loss.

 

Why have ICFers turned a blind eye to this?

Because steve Smith does not lower the quality of the team. There are better players than this ugly chump in our reserves. Just dying for a chance. 28 averaging fodder over 3 years vs a man who still averages 50 plus this year. No brainer. 

[Number]

45 minutes ago, jalebi_bhai said:

Where are the threads micro analysing Smith's failures on this tour? Why are ICFers silent? 

 because ICF is Indiancricketfans.com and Smith doesn't play for India.

Edited March 13, 2023 by Number

[speedracer]

Insult to even compare the 2. Smith us allowed to fail. He averaged 41 vs india last time in bgt. And before that it was 62. 

 

Coolie is not in the same stratosphere. 

[jalebi_bhai]

1 minute ago, speedracer said:

Because steve Smith does not lower the quality of the team. There are better players than this ugly chump in our reserves. Just dying for a chance. 28 averaging fodder over 3 years vs a man who still averages 50 plus this year. No brainer. 

Did this stat make any difference to the result of this series? No. He has been an absolute non-factor this series. 

 

We criticized Kohli for his 2017 horror show even when he was in his peak and averaging in the 50s. Why should Smith get a free pass this time? 

[Nikola]

Doubt result would have changed even if he would have scored century in this match. His failure in delhi test made sure australia won't win this series.

[jalebi_bhai]

6 minutes ago, Number said:

 because ICF is Indiancricketfans.com and Smith doesn't play for India.

He's playing IN India atm. And has been for the last month or so. 

[jalebi_bhai]

8 minutes ago, speedracer said:

Insult to even compare the 2. Smith us allowed to fail. He averaged 41 vs india last time in bgt. And before that it was 62. 

 

Coolie is not in the same stratosphere. 

How about comparing his performance in this series to that of Axar Patel then?

[jalebi_bhai]

ICF maybe indiancricketfans.com and Smith might not play for India but he has plenty of fanboys/fangirls on indiancricketfans.com ready to defend/rationalize his failures  

 

Guy is a proven cheat but ICF has a lot of slack to cut for him.

[Moochad]

Big failure this series

[waga]

After 7 years and a natural decline in reflexes due to age steve smith has been found out technically and has gone from the best batsmen of the decade by far to a normal international level batsman who averages 40 odd and has bad series

Kohli went from a good bat to averaging 25 and has had 1 good innings after 4 years on the flattest flat track that was specifically made to be impossible to get out for a no result 

[jalebi_bhai]

1 hour ago, waga said:

After 7 years and a natural decline in reflexes due to age steve smith has been found out technically and has gone from the best batsmen of the decade by far to a normal international level batsman who averages 40 odd and has bad series

Kohli went from a good bat to averaging 25 and has had 1 good innings after 4 years on the flattest flat track that was specifically made to be impossible to get out for a no result 

And yet Smith failed to go past 50 even on the flattest flat track?

 

I personally don't care too much about Kohli. Wanted him dropped if he failed to average at least 40 in this series. You could substitute Kohli for Gill, who scored nearly as much as Smith did in the series in Ahmedabad itself, point still stands.  

[vvvslaxman]

4 hours ago, jalebi_bhai said:

Where are the threads micro analysing Smith's failures on this tour? Why are ICFers silent? 

Is this a serious question?

 

Smith averages in the last 4 series   

 

   56.50

   75.50

 127.50

   57.75

 

Kohli' averages in the alst 4 series

 

 

18.00

40.25

27.00

15.00

 

[jalebi_bhai]

6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Is this a serious question?

 

Smith averages in the last 4 series   

 

   56.50

   75.50

 127.50

   57.75

 

Kohli' averages in the alst 4 series

 

 

18.00

40.25

27.00

15.00

 

Is the thread dealing with the series' prior to BGT 2023?

 

If your only defense is to pull out old stats of Smith to bring down Kohli, then you have no case to make.

 

Take Kohli out of the picture. Compare his numbers to Rohit, Axar or even Gill in BGT 2023. They are poor. 

 

7 innings, including 2 not outs, 145 runs and avg. 29 with strike rate of 35. 

[vvvslaxman]

7 minutes ago, jalebi_bhai said:

Is the thread dealing with the series' prior to BGT 2023?

 

If your only defense is to pull out old stats of Smith to bring down Kohli, then you have no case to make.

 

Take Kohli out of the picture. Compare his numbers to Rohit, Axar or even Gill in BGT 2023. They are poor. 

 

7 innings, including 2 not outs, 145 runs and avg. 29 with strike rate of 35. 

He is up against one of the ATG bowling spin pair in their den. Lohli has been a bunny against debutant in this series until this innings. There is a huge difference.