jf1gp_1 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 17 hours ago, coffee_rules said: With such self-loathing attitudes like these by Indian-origin guys like you, India is not respected outside India. Go by data to begin with. There are worse countries. It is already established. It’s a strawman argument to ask if I would send my daughter/sister to Bihar? I would not do that in Bronx/Harlem/Chicago downtown areas as well. If you are practical, you avoid certain areas that are prone for crime. It is not about India. I agree that it is tough for women in general in India. I will be jittery if your girl takes Uber from the airport at 2 am alone, in Hyd , more so than in NYC. A lesser degree, but that fear of bad happening is there everywhere. You act as though there are no safe areas for women in India based on one or two severe rapes. I once had my car parked next to some jersey subway station. We were returning from NY (with wife) and it was late, must be after 10.30pm. The subway journey back and walk till our car, never felt that unsafe in my life. Also people should try walking chicago downtown at night. No point talking about LA downtown cause i was always crappy. coffee_rules and dial_100 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Our own people have dirty mind, let's not deny it. An overreaction, and strong deterrence is needed. That is the solution including where the "un-elected" government officials just do their duties correctly, timely and without corruption. Similarly, opposite end extreme was the Sabarmati Express derailment yesterday which seems a clear-cut sabotage, and these incidents are increasing. It's not Pakistan, it's our own people, who are sick, dirty, and dangerous. The idea that it's due to uneducated, inequality, is not good enough. Yet, another relevant topic is the increasing number of "false" cases of rapes, and that's also nowhere being tackled. So I also don't know the answers. Ranvir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranvir Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 On 8/17/2024 at 12:13 PM, coffee_rules said: With such self-loathing attitudes like these by Indian-origin guys like you, India is not respected outside India. Go by data to begin with. There are worse countries. It is already established. It’s a strawman argument to ask if I would send my daughter/sister to Bihar? I would not do that in Bronx/Harlem/Chicago downtown areas as well. If you are practical, you avoid certain areas that are prone for crime. It is not about India. I agree that it is tough for women in general in India. I will be jittery if your girl takes Uber from the airport at 2 am alone, in Hyd , more so than in NYC. A lesser degree, but that fear of bad happening is there everywhere. You act as though there are no safe areas for women in India based on one or two severe rapes. It's not self loathing. It's wanting to see a change in the country of my parent's origin. This was a sadistic rape and murder in a hospital in one of the biggest cities in India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 This is even more horrific man... Hopefully it doesn't gets mainstream coverage outside India. Monsters live alongside us. coffee_rules, dial_100 and Lord 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickydev Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I know this is about Bengal, but this heinous crime has shaken me to the core. Its taken me a good few days to process this. So painful to think about her close ones, how they are being treated by the system. Years of effort put in by the lady to contribute to society has been taken from her by monsters, and this in a major city. The fact it happened to a budding doctor inside a hospital is sickening, in a field where we have so many women. And as much as it pains me to say this it's a lot sinister than r@pe, it's f##king mafia at play. The police was more concerned about what was being said on X and threatening them to take posts down. Protestors attacked and to top it all of, the bitch having her own protests against the crime. Its a bloody joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickydev Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: This is even more horrific man... Hopefully it doesn't gets mainstream coverage outside India. Monsters live alongside us. Did the girl at least live? The b@stards have no care for life even after they have done the most disgusting act. And the bit about India's image or whatever, it frankly doesn't matter. Have been on too many discussions forum lately, its pretty clear everyone has been having a field day this past week calling out India as the most unsafe place in the planet for women. There is no hiding from this. Its not about r@pes, its about harrasment that women in India go through. Anecdotes from westerners aside, a ton of Indian women are speaking out. Lone Wolf and dial_100 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/kolkata-doctor-death-who-is-sanjay-roy-civic-volunteer-arrested-in-rg-kar-hospital-rape-murder-case/articleshow/112440685.cms If this article is true then it looks like the accused was typical dalal . No wonder hospital and police are afraid because he can name many in network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 On 8/15/2024 at 12:24 PM, Bigg Brother said: Don't want to compare the heinous crimes but it looks even scarier than Nirbhaya case. 150 mg semen found from Lady Doctor's body which indicates gang rape. This happened in Hospital which makes it more deplorable. Unimaginable cruelty. Fractures, 150 mg Semen, Other Claims Denied By Cops In Kolkata Rape-Murder https://www.ndtv.com/kolkata-news/kolkata-rg-kar-hospital-doctor-rape-murder-fractures-150-mg-semen-other-claims-denied-by-cops-in-kolkata-rape-murder-6356105/amp/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 As a society, we should be ashamed. How come we end up doing heinous crimes like rape as a group. Moral compass of society as a whole is questionable. Where have we come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Tbh. The issue is not perfect capita. It is apathy of the state. Bengal is gone for good. A state doing an active cover up in broad daylight of a crime scene. What more can one say. dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 12 hours ago, Singh bling said: Fractures, 150 mg Semen, Other Claims Denied By Cops In Kolkata Rape-Murder https://www.ndtv.com/kolkata-news/kolkata-rg-kar-hospital-doctor-rape-murder-fractures-150-mg-semen-other-claims-denied-by-cops-in-kolkata-rape-murder-6356105/amp/1 Cops initially covered it up calling it a suicide and registered the death as an unnatural death. Listen to this stand-up comedy bit. CBI is responsible for the cover-up, not WB police dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 3 hours ago, mishra said: As a society, we should be ashamed. How come we end up doing heinous crimes like rape as a group. Moral compass of society as a whole is questionable. Where have we come. I don't agree that we should all be ashamed for a crime that some degenerates do. The world is bad and we all are not responsible for such heinous acts. It deflects the blame from the individuals to a larger problem. We can't club every shameful act to something that we collectively do as a society. If somebody disrespects women, some people blame all men . As long you don't get involved in such acts, you don't have to feel ashamed. Yes, we should press all possible avenues to speak about implementing detternt laws like capital punishment to castration. No human rights activists fighting for the rights of such keedas should be spared . In fact, they are the ones to be blamed. The liberals and their damned preaches. raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Disturbed since this came out. Shocking details. India has truly become rape capital of the world. Nirbhaya, Hathras, Manipur, Kathua and many many more.. After Nirbhaya we should have become stricter and harsher. Instead now we protect criminals, blame women and garland rapists. I don't agree India is as safe/dangerous for women than USA/Canada etc. Women aren't blamed there and atleast there is a hope of rapists being caught and punished. I6MTW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 3 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Cops initially covered it up calling it a suicide and registered the death as an unnatural death. Listen to this stand-up comedy bit. CBI is responsible for the cover-up, not WB police The hospital guys called it suicide first to save their own skin. Then started construction when investigation was going on. Full chewtiyapa all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 38 minutes ago, Lord said: Disturbed since this came out. Shocking details. India has truly become rape capital of the world. Nirbhaya, Hathras, Manipur, Kathua and many many more.. After Nirbhaya we should have become stricter and harsher. Instead now we protect criminals, blame women and garland rapists. I don't agree India is as safe/dangerous for women than USA/Canada etc. Women aren't blamed there and atleast there is a hope of rapists being caught and punished. Kejruddin gifted silai machine to that Juvenile involved in Nirbhaya case who has got new I'd name job as per some reports. Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 34 minutes ago, Lord said: The hospital guys called it suicide first to save their own skin. Then started construction when investigation was going on. Full chewtiyapa all around. This is not the first incident in this college. Earlier as early as 1998-2000, many girls have reported the college running a sex racket and allgedly committed suicide. Also, the DCP (IGP then) was involved in the investigation of a gang-rape and botched the investigation and resulted in the acquittal of the rapists. Now, they are denying a gang-rape despite the post-mortem reports and also falsifying even rape happened. Left to them, they will acquit even the lone criminial arrested. The deposed Pricipal has been quickly re-appointed to another prestigious government college. TMC goons vandalising and destroyibg evidence is key. CM conveniently blames vaam aur ram. Chewtipaya is an understatement. dial_100 and Lord 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: This is not the first incident in this college. Earlier as early as 1998-2000, many girls have reported the college running a sex racket and allgedly committed suicide. Also, the DCP (IGP then) was involved in the investigation of a gang-rape and botched the investigation and resulted in the acquittal of the rapists. Now, they are denying a gang-rape despite the post-mortem reports and also falsifying even rape happened. Left to them, they will acquit even the lone criminial arrested. The deposed Pricipal has been quickly re-appointed to another prestigious government college. TMC goons vandalising and destroyibg evidence is key. CM conveniently blames vaam aur ram. Chewtipaya is an understatement. and then you say it happens even in Western countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, Lord said: and then you say it happens even in Western countries Never claimed this type of cover-up happens in western countries. Rapes happen everywhere to call only India the rape capital. Rapes happened before Nirbhaya laws and after , it is a societal proble,m everywhere. There is nothing the deters bad people taking advantage of a person in weaker situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 7 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Never claimed this type of cover-up happens in western countries. Rapes happen everywhere to call only India the rape capital. Rapes happened before Nirbhaya laws and after , it is a societal proble,m everywhere. There is nothing the deters bad people taking advantage of a person in weaker situation. Cover ups, blaming women etc accelerates the problem, no? The mentality surely leads to more such cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raki05 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) On 8/17/2024 at 1:04 AM, Ranvir said: I expected this defensiveness from you. With attitudes like this India will never improve. Would you let your sister or daughter walk alone during the daytime in a typical village in Bihar or UP? Yes they do, i have spent half of my life in Bihar and Up. Its so ironical that a person who might not have ever set foot in India in a long time let alone Bihar and UP knows more than persons who lived there. Its not that Bihar and UP is safe for women like any other state in India or many western country but its also not anywhere close to the amount of bullshitting you are doing that sister and daughter cant walk in daytime in a village is hilarious . BTW how about daily dose of knife and mass shootings at schools do you feel safe to send your son and daughters to schools? So just stop bullshitting and taking morale high ground. Edited August 19 by raki05 coffee_rules and dial_100 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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