Ajit Agarkar,chairman of Selection committee

[tweaker]

Former Indian cricketer Dilip vengsarkar has slammed the selection committee (TOI) Said - The selectors' decision to ignore him is absolutely absurd and baffling. What kind of selection is this? It is just not acceptable. It is injustice.

[tweaker]

The signals sent out by the current selectors can often be confusing.

 

A senior pro like Mohammed Shami, for instance, is repeatedly being ignored with Agarkar shifting the goalposts. If the latter had expressed doubts about the 35-year-old’s match fitness earlier, Shami proved him wrong during the domestic season and Agarkar says he is in the frame "only for the T20 format".

 

Nobody, it seems, is ready to have an honest chat with one of the best pace bowlers of this generation.

[putrevus]

2 hours ago, tweaker said:

The signals sent out by the current selectors can often be confusing.

 

A senior pro like Mohammed Shami, for instance, is repeatedly being ignored with Agarkar shifting the goalposts. If the latter had expressed doubts about the 35-year-old’s match fitness earlier, Shami proved him wrong during the domestic season and Agarkar says he is in the frame "only for the T20 format".

 

Nobody, it seems, is ready to have an honest chat with one of the best pace bowlers of this generation.

Gambhir is also part of the problem. Both of them have ruined player's careers. Gambhir looks like is carrying lot of say on everything.

 

[tweaker]

19 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Gambhir is also part of the problem.

Agarkar is accountable as he is the chairman of the selection committee.

 

Gambhir,Gill will put pressure on him on selecting their favourites, IPL team mates,but it's duty of Agarkar to select the best squad.

 

Most of the playing 11 are almost certain in case there are injuries or some players are rested.

 

There is only opportunity to select 2,3 players in the squad.

 

Agarkar has failed in the case of Sarfaraz,Aaquib,Sami.

 

Agarkar should have insisted on the selection of Sarfaraz as there are not any specialist middle order batsman in the squad.

[putrevus]

2 minutes ago, tweaker said:

Agarkar is accountable as he is the chairman of the selection committee.

 

Gambhir,Gill will put pressure on him on selecting their favourites, IPL team mates,but it's duty of Agarkar to select the best squad.

 

Most of the playing 11 are almost certain in case there are injuries or some players are rested.

 

There is only opportunity to select 2,3 players in the squad.

 

Agarkar has failed in the case of Sarfaraz,Aaquib,Sami.

 

Agarkar should have insisted on the selection of Sarfaraz as there are not any specialist middle order batsman in the squad.

Spot on, plus  lack of proper communication with players. It is basic duty for a selector to be honest with players.This moron has been shifting goal posts.

[vvvslaxman]

Ashwin touches about  'selective stability" to some players. He feels certain players like Kuldeep, Jaiswal, Jurel are not given the same stability as some of the players.

 

  

 

[vvvslaxman]

So  Sarfraz,  Kuldeep, Jaiswal never need a long run in different formats? Right now Gujarat Titans (either Gill or Jay shah) whoever behind this  are running the show. No offense. Vaibhva the test player will be better than Sai Sudarshan.

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

I am not liking where this is going

 

 

[Lord]

 

[Ultimate_Game]

I have said it multiple times that BCCI and team management have a two tier system in place where certain players are more "equal" than others. Likes of Sarfaraz, Jaiswal, Pant have to be almost perfect everytime and even then there's no guarantee that they won't be dropped as Jaiswal learned the hard way in T20s or Sarfaraz saw in Tests after scoring 150 against kiwis at home.

 

But others like Gill, SKY, Sai (since he became part of GT) etc. can do no wrong and are given ropes which are miles long. If you're not part of the inner circle, sooner or later you'll find yourself out of favor and team.

[tapandrun]

think this is an overreaction, yes certain players always had much power in the system be it dhoni, kolhi , rohit etc....

There has always been preferential treatments to some and some didnt find the same favours which is common over the decades and across the boards.

 

Sky is getting dropped after winning the T20i wc, Rohit removed from captaincy after winning the CT Ind cricket is in transition such thing will happen.

 

Kuldeep has been in Ind side for a v.long time , still feels like he is jr. member of the side, At intnl stage ppl have to make their own space.

 

Rishab once was similar to Gill, they were looking at him as next big thing, and even after bad t20i records were looking to develop him as the captain.

 

Sarfarz may be unlucky in all this as selection is done on IPL basis bt most feel he will have issue with fast bowling and they think sai can be something special.

 

Compared to kuldeep , Chahal is more hard done by selection issue he is amongst the top t20i wkt taker in Ind but never found a place in playing 11 in wcs. The reason was because of this batting and fielding plus no other Ind batter able to bat he lost his place in playing 11 

 

The selection is wrng where they are selecting batters based on Ipls/t20, they should give chances to proper ranji batters in test even if they had to reject them.

 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 01:42 AM by tapandrun

[Lord]

3 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

I have said it multiple times that BCCI and team management have a two tier system in place where certain players are more "equal" than others. Likes of Sarfaraz, Jaiswal, Pant have to be almost perfect everytime and even then there's no guarantee that they won't be dropped as Jaiswal learned the hard way in T20s or Sarfaraz saw in Tests after scoring 150 against kiwis at home.

 

But others like Gill, SKY, Sai (since he became part of GT) etc. can do no wrong and are given ropes which are miles long. If you're not part of the inner circle, sooner or later you'll find yourself out of favor and team.

 

 

[tapandrun]

4 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Could be sky ???

[Ultimate_Game]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

 

 

 

I like Sai and want him in ODI team at 3. But Sarfaraz deserved a longer run in Tests than Sai.

[Ultimate_Game]

2 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Could be sky ???

 

Could be anyone but they picked on the most vulnerable player. Sarfaraz was already pushed to fringes and then made a scapegoat. There was no proof that Sarfaraz was the one who leaked information but they ran a campaign against him and the poor guy was scapegoated. First he became the fall guy for Rohit & Kohli's non-performance in Tests against NZ where he was dropped despite scoring 150, and then kicked out with this smear campaign of him "leaking" information without any proof.

 

And SKY managed to play ODIs, Tests and T20s despite no performances or records to speak of in domestics in List A and Ranji, and even in T20s it was all meaningless bilaterals and still he played for 5+ years. Likes of Jaiswal, Pant, Sarfaraz have been dropped at the drop of a hat despite performing much better.

[tapandrun]

40 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Could be anyone but they picked on the most vulnerable player. Sarfaraz was already pushed to fringes and then made a scapegoat. There was no proof that Sarfaraz was the one who leaked information but they ran a campaign against him and the poor guy was scapegoated. First he became the fall guy for Rohit & Kohli's non-performance in Tests against NZ where he was dropped despite scoring 150, and then kicked out with this smear campaign of him "leaking" information without any proof.

 

And SKY managed to play ODIs, Tests and T20s despite no performances or records to speak of in domestics in List A and Ranji, and even in T20s it was all meaningless bilaterals and still he played for 5+ years. Likes of Jaiswal, Pant, Sarfaraz have been dropped at the drop of a hat despite performing much better.

 

Yes sarfarz should have been given longer rope but they are continuing with sai who does not even have fc avg of 40, the selection is based on ipl/t20s which is wrong.

 

Sky was picked in Odis and test based on T20s which was again a wrong thing to do, t20s are v.diff from odis and test. Similar why ppl are making case fr kishan and Sanju in odis based on t20is which is wrong.

 

How and where rishab and jaiswal were dropped at the drop of the hat. rishab was taken back to ind test side right after declared fit without much game time in domestics and he was picked in t20i wc without much performances , jaiswal was  not dropped from test side. In odi he just played 3 games and is still the back-up opener to rohit. And for t20s he was replaced by better t20 batter

 

 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 12:40 AM by tapandrun

[tapandrun]

7 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Ashwin touches about  'selective stability" to some players. He feels certain players like Kuldeep, Jaiswal, Jurel are not given the same stability as some of the players.

 

  

 

Did he say, rohit is blocking Jaiswal ???-- Have not seen this video but in multiple videos he is been beating around the bushes when it comes to talking about rohit and kolhi. Jiswal is also picked over rutu and padikkal in odis he has worse sr and avg in List A compared to 2 others

 

As for jurel they have selected him over so many other in the test he leaped frogged others and is now  permanent member of the side.

 

 

During Ipl he was critical of new-players like karthik and Veer but never ques. rutu's place in the side, said he is top player and will come good.

Did say anything on Rishab and Rahane not fitting into their respective sides.

 

Edited Saturday at 02:15 AM by tapandrun

[Lord]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

Could be sky ???

Someone close to Agarkar

 

[Lord]

What is this subtle attack on Pant

 

These things need to be discussed privately 

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

Did he say, rohit is blocking Jaiswal ???-- Have not seen this video but in multiple videos he is been beating around the bushes when it comes to talking about rohit and kolhi. Jiswal is also picked over rutu and padikkal in odis he has worse sr and avg in List A compared to 2 others

 

As for jurel they have selected him over so many other in the test he leaped frogged others and is not permanent member of the side.

 

 

During Ipl he was critical of new-players like karthik and Veer but never ques. rutu's place in the side, said he is top player and will come good.

Did say anything on Rishab and Rahane not fitting into their respective sides.

 

He definitely is being diplomatic given that they played together for years.