randomGuy Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Debates and Primaries will fix it. This is all internet and ad-hoc calls polls. He’s a distant third still As per betting odds he happens to be slightly ahead https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2024/republican-candidate But very early days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 4 hours ago, gattaca said: He is in second place in polls. If trump convicted then Vivek will be gop candidate if trump is convicted, will it really rule out all prospects of him running? I am not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 44 minutes ago, Vijy said: if trump is convicted, will it really rule out all prospects of him running? I am not sure There is very little chance his cases will get verdicts prior to the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Trump will not participate in GOP presidential candidates debate. He can skip primaries and directly enter the election as an independent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Trump will not participate in GOP presidential candidates debate. He can skip primaries and directly enter the election as an independent. I think he will miss first 2 or 3 of them. He will come in at some ^point when few of them have been eliminated. I think Vivek is at risk of being eliminated quite literally. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: I think he will miss first 2 or 3 of them. He will come in at some ^point when few of them have been eliminated. I think Vivek is at risk of being eliminated quite literally. How lol ? Desantis might be loosing he falling in polls badly he is a not good orator and he went full anti woke against Disney as well. Voters definitely are convinced. Ramaswamy is third in polls he is greater chance to stay alive if trump doesn’t participate in debates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/19/opinions/christian-conservatives-ramaswamys-faith-sheffield/index.html Opinion: Christian conservatives betray their values in criticizing Ramaswamy’s faith An interesting take: Quote It’s discouraging to see some of my fellow conservatives attacking rising GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy for his Hindu faith. It is wrong and un-American. It violates the spirit, if not the law, of the Constitution. And it could backfire on Christians as our share of the US population dwindles. It is also entirely counterproductive for those who claim to support traditional values and religious liberty. Ramaswamy is steadily climbing in Republican primary voter support, closing in on Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in some polls and neck and neck with him in the betting markets. He is also one of the candidates best positioned to further major conservative Christian agenda items. Conservatives claim to embrace originalist jurisprudence that holds faithfully to the letter of the Constitution and the Founders’ intent. Yet those who criticize Ramaswamy because of his religion are undermining this core American document, which clearly states: “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, gattaca said: How lol ? Desantis might be loosing he falling in polls badly he is a not good orator and he went full anti woke against Disney as well. Voters definitely are convinced. Ramaswamy is third in polls he is greater chance to stay alive if trump doesn’t participate in debates. I mean eliminated literally. He is challenging on stuff which he makes him an open target for the corridors of power. Honestly the guy has crossed more red lines than anyone I can think of. Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, gattaca said: How lol ? Desantis might be loosing he falling in polls badly he is a not good orator and he went full anti woke against Disney as well. Voters definitely are convinced. Ramaswamy is third in polls he is greater chance to stay alive if trump doesn’t participate in debates. DeSantis is at 19% in Iowa according to latest poll... Vivek is far behind at 4% as per MSNBC. Even behind likes of Nikki Haley https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/08/21/trump-leads-desantis-in-iowa-poll-ahead-of-first-republican-debate.html A lot hinges on this debate for him. Edited August 21, 2023 by Lone Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 hours ago, ravishingravi said: I mean eliminated literally. He is challenging on stuff which he makes him an open target for the corridors of power. Honestly the guy has crossed more red lines than anyone I can think of. I think likes of Chris Christie will target him at the debate over Foreign policy stuff especially even Nikki Haley for that matter. DeSantis doesn't seems like someone who can deliver a KO to him at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) Hated kids like these in school. While I was busy getting tensed, going to the temple, revising everything third time, checking question papers from last 4 years, there is this kid who would be playing cricket the day before exam and get the first rank. Edited August 21, 2023 by ravishingravi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 I think I have seen enough. This guy is the real deal and he is going to be very very influential unless he is neutralized by the establishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, BlueBlood said: Unfortunately he will fizzle out around the 3rd debate. Same issue with these outsider candidates is one controversy will derail them. As a Pharma executive, he is asking for trouble as he will definitely have some negatives there. No one likes Big Pharma. His biggest advantage will come if DeSantis is out of contention and Trump is weakened due to some controversy. He is not big pharma lol. He had a start up so many people don’t know much about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 hours ago, BlueBlood said: Unfortunately he will fizzle out around the 3rd debate. Same issue with these outsider candidates is one controversy will derail them. As a Pharma executive, he is asking for trouble as he will definitely have some negatives there. No one likes Big Pharma. His biggest advantage will come if DeSantis is out of contention and Trump is weakened due to some controversy. Did you check his background ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 All out war between CNN & Vivek... I personally feel Vivek should have avoided all that stuff before big debate. Sounds like Conspiracy lunatic sometimes. That 9/11 stuff was always going to blow back at some point He seems to be focused only on grabbing eye balls no matter what it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 First debate tonight ravishingravi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 7 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: All out war between CNN & Vivek... I personally feel Vivek should have avoided all that stuff before big debate. Sounds like Conspiracy lunatic sometimes. That 9/11 stuff was always going to blow back at some point He seems to be focused only on grabbing eye balls no matter what it takes. Works in his favour even more. Antangonizing CNN has no downsides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: First debate tonight Wasn’t tucker who said he had enough of trump. Strange he is going to talk to him again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, ravishingravi said: Works in his favour even more. Antangonizing CNN has no downsides. 9/11 issue is a bit sensitive one... I though for once feel it is a nice tactic if he is trying to attract eyeballs. This has made sizeable headlines for him more than any other stuff he has said. As a brand building exercise it is good for his future... But in a serious campaign it could hurt him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: 9/11 issue is a bit sensitive one... I though for once feel it is a nice tactic if he is trying to attract eyeballs. This has made sizeable headlines for him more than any other stuff he has said. As a brand building exercise it is good for his future... But in a serious campaign it could hurt him. CNN don lemon did really a poor interview with Vivek. He is constantly interrupting him about NRA and gun rights for African Americans. If CNN is speaking against a repub candidate it is good for them. Edited August 23, 2023 by gattaca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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