Vivek Ramaswamy - US Presidential candidate.

[Muloghonto]

13 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

He is deliberately being dumb.

 

Chances of him winning based on votes is miniscule anyway.

 

So he is going to kick rocks till 2026. And even in 2026, he is not winning ****.

 

The delibeate dumbass is you who wants us to stop voting or supporting the guy who gives us most power coz of butthurt internet wars of children. 

 

Only a dumbass thinks governor is step down from made up new federal post that no politician ever wants to hold. 

DODGE is death for politician so Vivek chose to try his luck at politics and not beurocracy. Phull  sapoort saar. 

[AuxiliA]

11 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

 

 

 

Quitting Doge is a smart move by Vivek. It wasn't a 'real' job which would build his political CV. He would have only made enemies through doge. Running for Governor is far better for him. 

 

 

[coffee_rules]

10 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Lol at liberal angle... Meanwhile they have pulled this sh*t on Indians 

 

Immigrattion changes affect all immigranst , not just Indians. There were many who come on vistor visa in the third trimester to give birth in US to get automatic citinzenship of the babies. They would then come her after 18 for college and get their parents. That pegnancy immigration and also chain migration where they get siblins, uncles, aunts will stop . This was talked by republicans in many debates. 

 

The automatic birth citizenship was highly misued by all and would stop. 

Edited January 21, 2025 by coffee_rules

[ravishingravi]

1 minute ago, coffee_rules said:

Immigrattion changes affect all immigranst , not just Indians. There were many who come on vistor visa in the third trimester to give birth in US to get automatic citinzenship of the babies. They would then come her after 18 for college and get their parents. That pegnancy immigration and also chain migration where they get siblins, uncles, aunts will stop . This was talked by republicans in many debates. 

 

The automatic birth citizenship was highly misues by all and would stop. 

 

As it should stop. It's a stupid rule. 

[coffee_rules]

13 minutes ago, AuxiliA said:

 

 

Quitting Doge is a smart move by Vivek. It wasn't a 'real' job which would build his political CV. He would have only made enemies through doge. Running for Governor is far better for him. 

 

 

Yes, getting him a DOGE role , he was already short-changed, as it was not a cabinet or state position . Other Hindus got better positions in quid-pro-quo. He has chosen a path like Bobby Jindal, Nicki Haley for governor of his home state. With his friend JDV's endorsement, he might win it as rural OH is pretty conservative. 

 

But Indians are rejoicing this as though telling "I told you so" , don't know what's their stakes in this battle. 
Indians: Desi Trump supporters are white chaatukaars
India Trump supporters: Indians are chatukaars of white  democrats/liberal/academia/left-liberal/anti-Hindu. 
It is a war of chaatukars - Rename ICF as  IndianChaatukarForum.

[R!TTER]

5 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

As it should stop. It's a stupid rule. 

And what happens to those who have already exploited the rules, throw them out? I know many friends/family who have!

[BacktoCricaddict]

2 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

And what happens to those who have already exploited the rules, throw them out? I know many friends/family who have!

As per the executive order, it only applies to births that occur 30 days after the order was signed.

[coffee_rules]

3 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

As per the executive order, it only applies to births that occur 30 days after the order was signed.

Yes, not back-dated, only future births - gen-alpha

[AuxiliA]

7 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Yes, getting him a DOGE role , he was already short-changed, as it was not a cabinet or state position . Other Hindus got better positions in quid-pro-quo. He has chosen a path like Bobby Jindal, Nicki Haley for governor of his home state. With his friend JDV's endorsement, he might win it as rural OH is pretty conservative. 

 

But Indians are rejoicing this as though telling "I told you so" , don't know what's their stakes in this battle. 
Indians: Desi Trump supporters are white chaatukaars
India Trump supporters: Indians are chatukaars of white  democrats/liberal/academia/left-liberal/anti-Hindu. 
It is a war of chaatukars - Rename ICF as  IndianChaatukarForum.

 

 

Vivek is far too smart for the Republicans. They donot like non-white smartasses. Vivek is non-christian too. He will always face a glass ceiling in the Republican party. Time will tell how high he rises. 

 

Indians have massive crab mentality. Especially those who aren't Nationalistic and keep their Caste/State identity above their National/Hindu Identity. 

 

[ravishingravi]

8 hours ago, AuxiliA said:

 

 

Vivek is far too smart for the Republicans. They donot like non-white smartasses. Vivek is non-christian too. He will always face a glass ceiling in the Republican party. Time will tell how high he rises. 

 

Indians have massive crab mentality. Especially those who aren't Nationalistic and keep their Caste/State identity above their National/Hindu Identity. 

 

 

Correct. But I still think he has a shot if he can stay under radar. It could be 12 years. But he will be just 50. 

 

Having said that I am also at some level wondering if this starts to shift the gaze of hindus to the mothership. I think you will start seeing this. More capital and people creating opportunities in India. This will happen. 

[AuxiliA]

2 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Correct. But I still think he has a shot if he can stay under radar. It could be 12 years. But he will be just 50. 

 

Having said that I am also at some level wondering if this starts to shift the gaze of hindus to the mothership. I think you will start seeing this. More capital and people creating opportunities in India. This will happen. 

 

 

Why should legal NRIs comeback? They should stay back, stick together and get some political weight behind them. They have the money and also the numbers. 

 

Indians need to stop validation seeking from the west. Stop trying hard to be liked by Goras and grow a thick skin. I cannot stress that enough!

 

Look at the Islamists. They can rape underage white girls, do terror attacks, riots and whatnot but I haven't seen a single muslim apologizing for it. On the contrary if an Indian/Hindu does something really bad many wrist-slitty, low self-respect Indians would cry "I am ashamed to be an Indian/Hindu" and bla bla..

 

The main reason for this low self-respect amongst Indians/Hindus is our broken Humanities Education system which is controlled by the missionaries at school level and by the Communists at the college level. 

 

How will the World respect your culture if your own education system doesn't?

 

 

[ravishingravi]

3 hours ago, AuxiliA said:

 

 

Why should legal NRIs comeback? They should stay back, stick together and get some political weight behind them. They have the money and also the numbers. 

 

Indians need to stop validation seeking from the west. Stop trying hard to be liked by Goras and grow a thick skin. I cannot stress that enough!

 

Look at the Islamists. They can rape underage white girls, do terror attacks, riots and whatnot but I haven't seen a single muslim apologizing for it. On the contrary if an Indian/Hindu does something really bad many wrist-slitty, low self-respect Indians would cry "I am ashamed to be an Indian/Hindu" and bla bla..

 

The main reason for this low self-respect amongst Indians/Hindus is our broken Humanities Education system which is controlled by the missionaries at school level and by the Communists at the college level. 

 

How will the World respect your culture if your own education system doesn't?

 

 

 

They need not come back. Their money can and it will. I know tech entrepreneurs and others moving capital to start ups in India. They will operate from two bases. Recently another US consulate was opened in Bengaluru. Silicon Valley and Bengaluru will be sister cities of tech entrepreneurships. And Indian can have their bases in both places or move as needed. 

[mishra]

16 hours ago, AuxiliA said:

 

 

Vivek is far too smart for the Republicans. They donot like non-white smartasses. Vivek is non-christian too. He will always face a glass ceiling in the Republican party. Time will tell how high he rises. 

 

Indians have massive crab mentality. Especially those who aren't Nationalistic and keep their Caste/State identity above their National/Hindu Identity. 

 

As a Hindu, I am very clear, To be treated at par and without discrimination, First step is India has to become equivalent to West

[ravishingravi]

12 minutes ago, mishra said:

As a Hindu, I am very clear, To be treated at par and without discrimination, First step is India has to become equivalent to West

 

Indian have to first overcome colonial mindset. Indian abroad behave like servants when they should be assertive and clear. This stupidity around citizenship and visa further confirms. Focus on skills not documents. 

[mishra]

4 hours ago, AuxiliA said:

 

 

Why should legal NRIs comeback? They should stay back, stick together and get some political weight behind them. They have the money and also the numbers. 

 

Indians need to stop validation seeking from the west. Stop trying hard to be liked by Goras and grow a thick skin. I cannot stress that enough!

 

Look at the Islamists. They can rape underage white girls, do terror attacks, riots and whatnot but I haven't seen a single muslim apologizing for it. On the contrary if an Indian/Hindu does something really bad many wrist-slitty, low self-respect Indians would cry "I am ashamed to be an Indian/Hindu" and bla bla..

 

The main reason for this low self-respect amongst Indians/Hindus is our broken Humanities Education system which is controlled by the missionaries at school level and by the Communists at the college level. 

 

How will the World respect your culture if your own education system doesn't?

 

 

No, I think that is Hindu way. Ram sent Sita to jungle. There is resilience in that action, but different kind of resilience. Ie He himself became the target of criticism by his action, focus shifted to him instead of Sita ma.

Source of Indian soft power lies in resilience involving self criticism and revisionist approach of Hindus. The problem you see is because we lack hard power and we must acquire that Hard power without loosing the soft power.

Edited January 22, 2025 by mishra

[AuxiliA]

10 minutes ago, mishra said:

As a Hindu, I am very clear, To be treated at par and without discrimination, First step is India has to become equivalent to West

 

 

Naa you need Self-Respect first and foremost. That can only happen if we weed out all anti-Hindu elements from the Indian education system. 

 

Our Curriculum only produces self-loathing, low self-esteem individuals. Where abusing (only) Hindu culture is considered to be 'progressive' and anyone who takes even the slightest pride in Hindu history/culture is considered to be 'bigoted' and 'communal'. 

 

The single biggest failure of the Modi govt in 11 years has been not doing anything substantial to reform our anti-Hindu education system. 

 

[mishra]

1 hour ago, AuxiliA said:

 

 

Naa you need Self-Respect first and foremost. That can only happen if we weed out all anti-Hindu elements from the Indian education system. 

 

Our Curriculum only produces self-loathing, low self-esteem individuals. Where abusing (only) Hindu culture is considered to be 'progressive' and anyone who takes even the slightest pride in Hindu history/culture is considered to be 'bigoted' and 'communal'. 

 

The single biggest failure of the Modi govt in 11 years has been not doing anything substantial to reform our anti-Hindu education system. 

 

I agree on that front that While you can not change non Hindus calling u a bigot doesn’t mean that Hindus themselves start calling themselves a bigot, especially if they have a upbringing under Hinduism.

 

On issue of educational reforms, even if we ignore logistical challenges, its huge task, but Think we need it. i don’t think state Boards will ever come on board with reform idea. Infact there will be opposition and exists opposition if centre tries to change it, as people whim we called intellectuals are also out put of same education system mixed with Hinduism upbringing.

[BacktoCricaddict]

3 hours ago, AuxiliA said:

Naa you need Self-Respect first and foremost

Each individual must have self-respect that emanates from their own good deeds and worth to the society in which they live. Hard work, compassion, integrity, paying fair share of taxes, love of family members, and, if possible, charity of time and money to help the less fortunate.

 

Beyond that, one owes nothing to no one, including random people or groups of people who happen to share their region of birth.  

Edited January 22, 2025 by BacktoCricaddict

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Each individual must have self-respect that emanates from their own good deeds and worth to the society in which they live. Hard work, compassion, integrity, paying fair share of taxes, love of family members, and, if possible, charity of time and money to help the less fortunate.

 

Beyond that, one owes nothing to no one, including random people or groups of people who happen to share their region of birth.  

He is saying one should proud of their identity. In a normal ideal  day, one might not need identity, but, in case of some adversity , it will be realized you have no support system of your own. Why do you think people form communities of similar identities - country, region, language  , etc? . I don’t prescribe to caste communities, but is needed when you face discrimination of any kind. This is lacking in Hindus in general. They are generally ashamed to congregate even for cultural events forget religious purposes. 

[AuxiliA]

1 hour ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Each individual must have self-respect that emanates from their own good deeds and worth to the society in which they live. Hard work, compassion, integrity, paying fair share of taxes, love of family members, and, if possible, charity of time and money to help the less fortunate.

 

Beyond that, one owes nothing to no one, including random people or groups of people who happen to share their region of birth.  

 

 

Great first para, I fully agree with it but the 2nd para is just ostrich head in sand level of obliviousness. Most of the World doesn't think that way. Try teaching that to the White supermacist christians or the global Islamists or the Chinese CCP. 

 

Be kind to everyone but also be aware of the threats you face as a community or else you will suffer badly. Not

having Shatrubodh (knowledge about your enemy) cost us massively during the Mediaeval era and beyond. 

 

Had we been fully aware of the dangers of foreign invaders and had we united to fight against them as one community we could have repelled them easily and avoided centuries of hardship and literal genocide(both human & cultural). India today would have been the Golden Bird like in the past, far better than what it is now.