Pakistan announced Squad for Asia Cup & Afg series

[Nikhil_cric]

18 minutes ago, deathmonger said:

Ifs and buts don't mean anything. Their pace trio was thumped around in the next match.

 

Only teams better than India are Australia and England.

 

[deathmonger]

23 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Did you believe that Pakistan was a much superior T20 side when they thrashed us in 2021?  

 

I didn't think so, either. 

 

But they have rapidly improved since 2015/16.  

 

They were a rubbish white ball outfit. But they are constantly improving and I can't say the same about us.

 

They have closed the gap considerably and it was much more evident in T20's .  There was a time when we would go to a T20 World Cup and beat them blindfolded.

 

Last year, Kohli had to roll back the years and bat out of his skin to get us over the line.  

 

They are a better catching and fielding side than we are.  I think 2nd or 3rd in the world in terms of catch success percentage, India are only better than Netherlands. And that was before the Nepal match where we dropped 3 catches and Shardul could be trusted   to bowl only 4 overs.

 

Some of the catching under pressure yesterday was impressive. Their out cricket is, I daresay, on par or sometimes even better than ours. That never was the case in years gone by

 

They have had an absolute shocker of an Asia Cup but even now Abdullah came in and completely out batted Fakhar.

 

The gap is not enough to consistently beat them. If we they play their best cricket, India will find it very tough to beat them. 

 

 

 

 

Out of 10 ODIs we'll win 7-8.

 

Don't be fooled by their records against B-C sides and weaker teams. This same team lost heavily in Asia Cup 2018 twice and WC 2019 and again in Asia Cup 2023. And would have prolly lost the group stage match as well.

 

T20s might be slightly better but Odis no chance.

 

You can't say "play their best cricket" and then not have us "playing our best cricket".

 

T20s gap might be lesser but we didn't have Bumrah last year and Kuldeep had lost form. With Bumrah and Kuldeep even in T20s we'd be favourites (Although not as much as in ODIs I agree).

 

Pakistan have improved as a white ball side but so have we. Remember we didn't even win bilateral ODI series in SENA before Bumrah/Kuldeep.

 

Bumrah/Kuldeep are already India's greatest ODI pacer/spinner. We have maintained our strong batting heritage and added good bowling too.

[Norman]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Did you believe that Pakistan was a much superior T20 side when they thrashed us in 2021?  

 

I didn't think so, either. 

 

But they have rapidly improved since 2015/16.  

 

They were a rubbish white ball outfit. But they are constantly improving and I can't say the same about us.

 

They have closed the gap considerably and it was much more evident in T20's .  There was a time when we would go to a T20 World Cup and beat them blindfolded.

 

Last year, Kohli had to roll back the years and bat out of his skin to get us over the line.  

 

They are a better catching and fielding side than we are.  I think 2nd or 3rd in the world in terms of catch success percentage, India are only better than Netherlands. And that was before the Nepal match where we dropped 3 catches and Shardul could be trusted   to bowl only 4 overs.

 

Some of the catching under pressure yesterday was impressive. Their out cricket is, I daresay, on par or sometimes even better than ours. That never was the case in years gone by

 

They have had an absolute shocker of an Asia Cup but even now Abdullah came in and completely out batted Fakhar.

 

The gap is not enough to consistently beat them. If we they play their best cricket, India will find it very tough to beat them. 

 

 

 

 

 

Bhaijaan, why are you beating all around the bush? 

 

 

I agree that Pakistan have improved from their Misbah Sarfraz days and are a slightly better T20 team than us currently. Now your turn...are Pakistan a superior ODI side to us ? Yes or no?

[Nikhil_cric]

2 minutes ago, Norman said:

 

 

Bhaijaan, why are you beating all around the bush? 

 

 

I agree that Pakistan have improved from their Misbah Sarfraz days and are a slightly better T20 team than us currently. Now your turn...are Pakistan a superior ODI side to us ? Yes or no?

Against our full strength side, no theyre a bit behind. 

[deathmonger]

3 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Against our full strength side, no theyre a bit behind. 

The longer the format the more the frailties are exposed.

 

T20s almost close, ODIs big gap, tests would be massacres.