KL Rahul suffers a fresh niggle and won't be available for the first 2 games of Asia Cup confirmed by Dravid

[Lord]

On 8/21/2023 at 7:06 PM, Gollum said:

Bina kuch kare how do these bozos keep getting niggles?

 

Rahul ki abhi abhi shaadi hui hai. Samjha karo

[Lord]

On 8/21/2023 at 8:11 PM, BacktoCricaddict said:

 

:-)

 

Did he also say that he will be flexible by moving between the #1 and #2 spots based on the team's needs?  

 

That's based on who bowls the first over.

[putrevus]

8 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Exactly. Sachin ,Saurav both gave up opening for likes of sehwag, gambhir and few others.

At this juncture nobody cares what Rohit and Kohli want, they have to do what is best for the team. If it means them playing at number 3 and 4 , then they should do it.

 

Asking youngsters who have played less than 50 matches  to do heavy lifting is ridiculous.

[bowl_out]

49 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Exactly. Sachin ,Saurav both gave up opening for likes of sehwag, gambhir and few others.

 

Sachin gave up his opening spot for an unestablished Robin Uthappa and it failed miserably in 2007. No way they are repeating that with Rohit to accommodate an unestablished Kishan.

Saurav gave up his spot for an established and destructive Sehwag and it worked fine. Would Saurav given up his opening spot for somebody like Uthappa?

 

I think the Asia cup squad selection has had a lot of thought process going into it.. Kudos to the new selection committee.

 

Here is how I see it.

 

Confirmed spots:

 

1. Rohit

2. Gill

3. Kohli

4. 

5. 

6. Hardik

7. Jadeja

8. 

9. 

10. Shami

11. Bumrah

 

#4 -> First choice is Iyer. If he is match fit, then he takes the spot. No debate..

If Iyer is not match fit/ deemed not ready for the WC, then this spot goes to either SKY or Tilak... Both of them are in the Asia cup squad.

 

#5 -> If Rahul is fit enough to keep for 50 overs and bat, then he takes this spot.. Hence why he is in the Asia cup squad to see if he is match ready.. If he is half fit or gets a niggle, he is Out, and Samson comes into the squad and takes the spot as the first choice keeper.

 

#8 -> Either Thakur or Axar take this spot depending on conditions.. 5th bowler who can contribute with the bat, so we don't play with 4 tailenders. Ideally, I would have liked R Ashwin here instead of Axar given that the WC is happening in India, and Ashwin brings a new dimension of right-arm off-spin while Axar is redundant with Jadeja in the XI

 

#9 -> This is either Kuldeep or Siraj depending on conditions.

 

In addition to all of this, Kishan is a back up opener and back up keeper. Prasidh is there as a back up to Shami / Siraj / Bumrah in case one of them picks up a niggle. He will likely travel with the WC squad as a net bowler, but will not make the 15-member squad.

 

That's your full 18-member squad for the Asia cup (18 including Samson).`

 

It seems to be well-thought out IMO.

 

[putrevus]

58 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

 

Sachin gave up his opening spot for an unestablished Robin Uthappa and it failed miserably in 2007. No way they are repeating that with Rohit to accommodate an unestablished Kishan.

Saurav gave up his spot for an established and destructive Sehwag and it worked fine. Would Saurav given up his opening spot for somebody like Uthappa?

 

I think the Asia cup squad selection has had a lot of thought process going into it.. Kudos to the new selection committee.

 

Here is how I see it.

 

Confirmed spots:

 

1. Rohit

2. Gill

3. Kohli

4. 

5. 

6. Hardik

7. Jadeja

8. 

9. 

10. Shami

11. Bumrah

 

#4 -> First choice is Iyer. If he is match fit, then he takes the spot. No debate..

If Iyer is not match fit/ deemed not ready for the WC, then this spot goes to either SKY or Tilak... Both of them are in the Asia cup squad.

 

#5 -> If Rahul is fit enough to keep for 50 overs and bat, then he takes this spot.. Hence why he is in the Asia cup squad to see if he is match ready.. If he is half fit or gets a niggle, he is Out, and Samson comes into the squad and takes the spot as the first choice keeper.

 

#8 -> Either Thakur or Axar take this spot depending on conditions.. 5th bowler who can contribute with the bat, so we don't play with 4 tailenders. Ideally, I would have liked R Ashwin here instead of Axar given that the WC is happening in India, and Ashwin brings a new dimension of right-arm off-spin while Axar is redundant with Jadeja in the XI

 

#9 -> This is either Kuldeep or Siraj depending on conditions.

 

In addition to all of this, Kishan is a back up opener and back up keeper. Prasidh is there as a back up to Shami / Siraj / Bumrah in case one of them picks up a niggle. He will likely travel with the WC squad as a net bowler, but will not make the 15-member squad.

 

That's your full 18-member squad for the Asia cup (18 including Samson).`

 

It seems to be well-thought out IMO.

 

Two ways to look at it. If top three fails like in past in big matches, is there any coming back.

[SM2907]

on what basis will he make the WC team? because he has recovered from injury?

[tweaker]

1 hour ago, SM2907 said:

on what basis will he make the WC team? because he has recovered from injury?

He is selected even if he is injured

[Austin 3:!6]

3 hours ago, SM2907 said:

on what basis will he make the WC team? because he has recovered from injury?

Coach sahab loves him...perhaps a state bias. Any other player and he would have been shown the door long time ago like Dhawan, Saha or even Chahal.

[Austin 3:!6]

Visited the Swami Narayan temple in New Jeresy with Anna.
Prayed for well being of all Bharatvasis & for the Indian Team to do well in the World Cup. Also secretely prayed for KL to smash it to all corners, have a great world cup and silence his critics like me.
Sab khush rahein. pic.twitter.com/CcVQif41yK

— Venkatesh Prasad (@venkateshprasad) August 22, 2023

[Suhaan]

10 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Visited the Swami Narayan temple in New Jeresy with Anna.
Prayed for well being of all Bharatvasis & for the Indian Team to do well in the World Cup. Also secretely prayed for KL to smash it to all corners, have a great world cup and silence his critics like me.
Sab khush rahein. pic.twitter.com/CcVQif41yK

— Venkatesh Prasad (@venkateshprasad) August 22, 2023

Anna har dam Chaukanna

[coffee_rules]

On 8/23/2023 at 5:25 AM, Suhaan said:

Anna har dam Chaukanna

Bahut ucchal kood raha hain KL ko leke, Chalo apne chartered flight mein  le chalta hoon, ab chup raho!

[Bigg Brother]

KLR should have never played for India again after that show in wt20 last year. Anyway injury isn't in his hands, should not be mocked for that. Can only wish him best and hope he doesn't play the way he did last year in ICC tournament.

[Kothili]

Ok, calm your tits and stop clutching at your pearls. 

 

They are trying to ease him out.

[Kothili]

33 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said:

KLR should have never played for India again after that show in wt20 last year.

There is no such thing as never. 

[AKane]

1 hour ago, Kothili said:

 

They are trying to ease him out.

Who is "they"? Presuming "him" is the peerless KL.

 

2 hours ago, Kothili said:

There is no such thing as never.

There was for  Sandeep Patil who averaged more than the peerless KL in tests. 36.93 vs 33.44

 

There was for Vinod Kambli who averaged more than the peerless KL in tests. 54.20 vs 33.44

 

There was a "never" for them. 

[SM2907]

On 8/23/2023 at 10:51 AM, SM2907 said:

on what basis will he make the WC team? because he has recovered from injury?

aisa zakhm diya hai, jo na ab bharega

abhi bhi injured

[Nikhil_cric]

On 8/23/2023 at 2:43 PM, Austin 3:!6 said:

Coach sahab loves him...perhaps a state bias. Any other player and he would have been shown the door long time ago like Dhawan, Saha or even Chahal.

This is a myth. Rohit Sharma was persisted with for plenty of matches before he actually came good. The hope with KL was that his talent would eventually come through but it hasn't.  Players with greater ability should be persisted with for longer.

[singhvivek141]

8 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

This is a myth. Rohit Sharma was persisted with for plenty of matches before he actually came good. The hope with KL was that his talent would eventually come through but it hasn't.  Players with greater ability should be persisted with for longer.

Rohit debuted at age of 20 and it took him 5-6 years to get his groove.

KLR debuted at age of 22/23 and now he's almost 31, in a couple of years his peak time will be over and it will give negative returns.

He has been a bad investment, no point clinging on to a share which has been in loss for 80% of the time. Better to back Rohan Kunnumal instead who is a positive batter.

[Nikhil_cric]

1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

Rohit debuted at age of 20 and it took him 5-6 years to get his groove.

KLR debuted at age of 22/23 and now he's almost 31, in a couple of years his peak time will be over and it will give negative returns.

He has been a bad investment, no point clinging on to a share which has been in loss for 80% of the time. Better to back Rohan Kunnumal instead who is a positive batter.

I agree. But KL has played in an era when there has been an extra emphasis on Tests /T20 leagues. 

 

I feel ODIs are the best format to develop players and has been the case for us over the years.

 

SRT at 20 had already played 60 ODIs . KL had just played over 50.  

 

I want KL out too. But if it's a middle order wicket keeper then it has to be Sanju Samson replacing him. 

 

The likes of Kohli and Rohit are, unfortunately, too selfish to allow Kishan to bat in the top order.

 

 

[coffee_rules]

On 8/23/2023 at 5:13 AM, Austin 3:!6 said:

Coach sahab loves him...perhaps a state bias. Any other player and he would have been shown the door long time ago like Dhawan, Saha or even Chahal.

This is your anti-Karnataka bias speaking  He got all his chances under Ravi Shastri .

 

 

Now …@Ravi_Shastri is also a Kannadiga who grew up in Bombay. Kumble was the coach in 2017 who brought him back. All Karnataka connections. I am all confused…

 

Edited August 25, 2023 by coffee_rules