Should we bring back Ashwin?

[singhvivek141]

2 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Yeah. First Jadeja the fraud allrounder and now Ash wo has played 2 ODIs in 6 years. Jadeja should've be injured. Not Axar.

 

Better off picking Prasidh Krishna at this point and relying on part time spin from batters at this point 

Actually, this option would have been a no Brainer if we were playing WC in SENA countries.

Issue here is that we're playing in subcontinent, where pitches will assist spin (unless there is dew) and as our batters struggle against spin, we would need some depth in our batting.

 

Imagine if we go with Kuldeep, Bumrah, Siraj & Prasidh as our 8-11, with Jadeja batting at 7.

 

The moment we are 5 down, collapse will be around the corner as Jadeja is a very very unreliable option with bat.

 

Btw..I would back Sundar at 7, Jadeja at 8, then Bumrah-Siraj-Kuldeep. Shardul will be backup for Sundar/Jadeja while Shami for main bowlers. This will also give us a flexibility to shuffle our batting order (Sundar/Jadeja can go up & down depending upon the need).

[wanted_desi]

7 hours ago, Gollum said:

Dunno about you guys but as a white ball package I think Ashwin is better than Sundar even at this age (he turned 37 yesterday). Sundar is strictly a red ball guy, and even his fitness/fielding is dodgy at this young age. Harsh fact is Sundar hasn't improved his white ball skills in the last 3-4 years, doesn't help that he misses so much cricket because of injuries.

 

I don't want Ashwin in the white ball setup because it ruins his red ball rhythm, also chance of injuries. Would rather have him help us reach another couple of WTC finals. If not 2, ek to banta hai, Eng and NZ touring India for 8 tests next year.

 

That slot is more for an all-rounder than pure bowler. Kuldeep has taken role of pure bowler who is supposed to finish 10 overs. 

 

Sundar is better all-rounder than Ashwin. He has worked on his hitting abilities lately and he would be useful addition to playing XI. 

[mani sha]

Sundar bowls well and bats v v well .and fields well too 

 

 

ashwin is a liability on field . His batting is decent - can hold one end and give u 20 runs . Can’t use him as a hitter of sixes etc . 
 

his bowling in odi at best is ok . 

[putrevus]

Ashwin as a overall package is still better than Sundar.

 

Sundar is neither this nor that.Bits and pieces player who cannot even take wickets or score runs or stop runs.

[vvvslaxman]

From all reports i see the injury to Axar is more serious than we thought.  Rohit  has been on the phone with Ashwin as per his interview. Washington has more game time in this format than Ashwin so he may be preferred as Ashwin hasn't played List A or ODI in a very long time.

[vvvslaxman]

Parag should have been tried

 

In Deodar Trophy 2023

 

 

Parag 5 matches

 

Batting 354 runs 88.50 avge 136.50 strike rate 2 centuries 1 50

Bowling  11 wickes  19.09 avge 4.84 ER 

 

He had the best all round performance.

[Gollum]

vs Eng, Lucknow 

vs Aus, Chennai

 

Definitely going with 3 spinners in these 2 big games. No-brainer really. Aus has so many LHBs, offie is a must. Whoever it is, best of luck. 

[singhvivek141]

Ashwin is back in the first 2 matches vs Australia

[Suhaan]

1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said:

Ashwin is back in the first 2 matches vs Australia

[Gollum]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

2 ODIs in last 6 years and suddenly he is in the scheme of things for a WC. BCCI, selectors, TM 

[vvvslaxman]

3 minutes ago, Gollum said:

2 ODIs in last 6 years and suddenly he is in the scheme of things for a WC. BCCI, selectors, TM 

 

very regressive move. Only missing element is DK lol. Then 2019 charade all over again

[IndiaWC8311]

Great selection. Can use him selectively in WC on certain pitches or oppositions who have left handers.

 

Remember how MSd used him sparingly in 2011 WWC but still Ashwin played a key role in the games he played

[vvvslaxman]

Red ball give me one more chance.   - Unadkat. Ashwin didn't have to do any of that. Just shared the vide of bowling with white ball lol. Bham. He is in line for WC selection

 

 

 

[Majestic]

Damn why not just focus towards Sundar. Even Axar will be fit in some time too.

 

 

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, Majestic said:

Damn why not just focus towards Sundar. Even Axar will be fit in some time too.

 

 

BCCI loves to complicate even the simple things.

Then they will make some weird decisions, lose and comeback saying "it's all part of process, we're learning something new".

[Suhaan]

There is always room for an extra pacer for a long ICC event

Pitches won't be dustbowls barring 1/2

 

[Downtown]

I can't help but feel a bit frustrated with this last-minute decision to include Ashwin in the WC squad. It's going to blow up in our faces big time. His batting in LOIs has gone downhill, and let's not even get started on his wicket-taking ability in the middle overs ,it's just not there. We need someone who can take crucial wickets, not just contain the runs.
 

And don't even get me started on his fielding. Remember that drop catch of Shan Masood in the last T20 WC? Yeah, that's the level of Ashwin's fielding , it's right up there with Chahal and Prasidh, and that's not a good place to be.

Washington, on the other hand, brings so much more to the table as a player. Whether it's his batting or bowling, he offers real value. I really hope Rohit and Dravid make a wise decision here. We need fresh, young legs to take on the opposition, and Ashwin just doesn't fit the bill.

[Suhaan]

18 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Actually, this option would have been a no Brainer if we were playing WC in SENA countries.

Issue here is that we're playing in subcontinent, where pitches will assist spin (unless there is dew) and as our batters struggle against spin, we would need some depth in our batting.

 

Imagine if we go with Kuldeep, Bumrah, Siraj & Prasidh as our 8-11, with Jadeja batting at 7.

 

The moment we are 5 down, collapse will be around the corner as Jadeja is a very very unreliable option with bat.

 

Btw..I would back Sundar at 7, Jadeja at 8, then Bumrah-Siraj-Kuldeep. Shardul will be backup for Sundar/Jadeja while Shami for main bowlers. This will also give us a flexibility to shuffle our batting order (Sundar/Jadeja can go up & down depending upon the need).

Playing  9 matches with same pacers will be risky add 1/2/3 if (just saying) we go all the way

That too with a returning Bumrah and Oldman Shami(in the reserve)

One extra pacer should have been there as reserve

Ashwin will do zilch with his batting and enough said about his fielding

[Majestic]

18 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Actually, this option would have been a no Brainer if we were playing WC in SENA countries.

Issue here is that we're playing in subcontinent, where pitches will assist spin (unless there is dew) and as our batters struggle against spin, we would need some depth in our batting.

 

Imagine if we go with Kuldeep, Bumrah, Siraj & Prasidh as our 8-11, with Jadeja batting at 7.

 

The moment we are 5 down, collapse will be around the corner as Jadeja is a very very unreliable option with bat.

 

Btw..I would back Sundar at 7, Jadeja at 8, then Bumrah-Siraj-Kuldeep. Shardul will be backup for Sundar/Jadeja while Shami for main bowlers. This will also give us a flexibility to shuffle our batting order (Sundar/Jadeja can go up & down depending upon the need).

Yeah looks pretty good. I have same views. Sundar seems clearly the best option because vs good attacks, he can be relied on to form a partnership. I have my doubts on Axar, Shardul and to some extent Jadeja as well for that.

[putrevus]

21 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Actually, this option would have been a no Brainer if we were playing WC in SENA countries.

Issue here is that we're playing in subcontinent, where pitches will assist spin (unless there is dew) and as our batters struggle against spin, we would need some depth in our batting.

 

Imagine if we go with Kuldeep, Bumrah, Siraj & Prasidh as our 8-11, with Jadeja batting at 7.

 

The moment we are 5 down, collapse will be around the corner as Jadeja is a very very unreliable option with bat.

 

Btw..I would back Sundar at 7, Jadeja at 8, then Bumrah-Siraj-Kuldeep. Shardul will be backup for Sundar/Jadeja while Shami for main bowlers. This will also give us a flexibility to shuffle our batting order (Sundar/Jadeja can go up & down depending upon the need).

Are you not overrating Sundar's batting ability.His highest recent LIST A score is 43 @70 sr .Rest of them were all in single digit scores.

 

It is not like he was lighting up FC either? 

 

So he will magically transform himself when India is under pressure that too in a world cup and scores needed runs from number 7.