Why the great Shakib Al Hasan has never won Bangladesh an Asia Cup?

[Majestic]

Why has Bangladesh never won an Asia Cup inspite of having a great player like Shakib Al Hasan? Also, we are talking about Asia Cup here and not world tournaments.

[Norman]

What are you trying to imply here? 

 

 

It's a team game.. and their 'team' usually loses their heads in a crunch situation. In 2012, they had Pakistan on the ropes but couldn't get 7 or 8 runs in the last over against Aizaz Cheema. 

 

In 2018, they let India escape again after getting a dream start. 

[Majestic]

4 minutes ago, Norman said:

What are you trying to imply here? 

 

 

It's a team game.. and their 'team' usually loses their heads in a crunch situation. In 2012, they had Pakistan on the ropes but couldn't get 7 or 8 runs in the last over against Aizaz Cheema. 

 

In 2018, they let India escape again after getting a dream start. 

Then why we say, "X player never won anything, Y player has won so many things". Why do most of us act like hypocrite and make baseless arguments?

[Rasgulla]

Why hasn’t all the time Kallis won a WC ? Because it’s a team game you bum!

[vvvslaxman]

Replace Shakib with Ben Stokes. Ben stokes would not have won any either.  You need a lot of ingredeitns to pull off tournament wins. It is like giving just coconut and asking someone to make chutney.

[bsriharsha]

Because Bangladesh is a limited team. Shakib being the best that Bangladesh has produced doesn't make him a great cricketer. 

[vvvslaxman]

4 minutes ago, bsriharsha said:

Because Bangladesh is a limited team. Shakib being the best that Bangladesh has produced doesn't make him a great cricketer. 

 

 

I agree

 

[Majestic]

3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Replace Shakib with Ben Stokes. Ben stokes would not have won any either.  You need a lot of ingredeitns to pull off tournament wins. It is like giving just coconut and asking someone to make chutney.

I think Stokes would have.

[Majestic]

4 hours ago, Rasgulla said:

Why hasn’t all the time Kallis won a WC ? Because it’s a team game you bum!

There are greater white ball cricketers than Kallis to have not won a WC. But here we are discussing Asia Cup.

[Majestic]

4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Replace Shakib with Ben Stokes. Ben stokes would not have won any either.  You need a lot of ingredeitns to pull off tournament wins. It is like giving just coconut and asking someone to make chutney.

BD reached finals thrice. I am sure Stokes would have produced an ATG knock in one of them to help clinch the trophy.

[vvvslaxman]

6 hours ago, Majestic said:

I think Stokes would have.

 

England did not win anything until Stokes became part of an elite LOI side. Whole side contributed all the way. Let us not forget Stokes cost a final by not being able to defend 20 plus runs. 

[Norman]

6 hours ago, Rasgulla said:

Why hasn’t all the time Kallis won a WC ? Because it’s a team game you bum!

 

After a long time , Rasgulla bhaijaan.. how's it going? 

[Gollum]

BD came closest in 2018 Asia Cup final, luck deserted them there. Shakib sat out that edition, brother Litton played a Blinder in the final and was wrongly given out iirc. 

[Majestic]

37 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

England did not win anything until Stokes became part of an elite LOI side. Whole side contributed all the way. Let us not forget Stokes cost a final by not being able to defend 20 plus runs. 

BD reached finals thrice. In Asia Cup 2012, BD could have chased down the total with Stokes in that team. Then they reached finals in 2016 and 2018 too, 2018 one Shakib missed out.

[Serpico]

7 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Replace Shakib with Ben Stokes. Ben stokes would not have won any either.  You need a lot of ingredeitns to pull off tournament wins. It is like giving just coconut and asking someone to make chutney.

Given how close Bangla came a few times, stokes would have won atleast one. Shakib has great starts but fails to finish the game, often. Stokes will finish them

Edited September 15, 2023 by Serpico

[Number]

BD had good team in 2015-18 time.

Defeated some major teams in their backyard.

2 Asia cup finals, 2017 CT Semi final, 2015 WC QF.

Lost their way after that.

Edited September 15, 2023 by Number

[vvvslaxman]

6 hours ago, Majestic said:

BD reached finals thrice. In Asia Cup 2012, BD could have chased down the total with Stokes in that team. Then they reached finals in 2016 and 2018 too, 2018 one Shakib missed out.

 

He took 2 for 38 in 10 overs and scored 68.   At that time Bangaldesh was a crap team.  Nobody supported him down the order.  One guy scored 16 in 52 balls. One guy  scored 28 in 63 balls. So you are expecting Shakib to protect his wicket and also maintain high strike rate? Back then Afridi, Ajmal, Gul were one of the finest bowling force. THe same year those trio won the world T20. Stokes has reached a grand total of one multination final. By the way there was one final Shakib did not even take part. 

[Number]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

He took 2 for 38 in 10 overs and scored 68.   At that time Bangaldesh was a crap team.  Nobody supported him down the order.  One guy scored 16 in 52 balls. One guy  scored 28 in 63 balls. So you are expecting Shakib to protect his wicket and also maintain high strike rate? Back then Afridi, Ajmal, Gul were one of the finest bowling force. THe same year those trio won the world T20. Stokes has reached a grand total of one multination final. By the way there was one final Shakib did not even take part. 

 

They had Pakistan at like 125/6 in that Asia cup final but allowed Afridi to take Pakistan to 240.

Should have chased that down when they were 66/0 but choked.

[Majestic]

4 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

He took 2 for 38 in 10 overs and scored 68.   At that time Bangaldesh was a crap team.  Nobody supported him down the order.  One guy scored 16 in 52 balls. One guy  scored 28 in 63 balls. So you are expecting Shakib to protect his wicket and also maintain high strike rate? Back then Afridi, Ajmal, Gul were one of the finest bowling force. THe same year those trio won the world T20. Stokes has reached a grand total of one multination final. By the way there was one final Shakib did not even take part. 

Two finals. Don't forget WT20 2022. And he played clutch match winning knocks in both while chasing, both vs strong opponents.

BD choked in those finals. Shakib scored runs but impactless runs.

Edited September 15, 2023 by Majestic

[Nikhil_cric]

He is the only quality batsman in their side right now and he is carrying the entire lineup. Mushi is a horrendous choker and mental midget. Unfair to expect him do all on his own.