Gollum Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 56 minutes ago, deathmonger said: Man, last year AC to WC was so good. AC we won, kicked Pak ass. Pak also lost close match to SL. Asian Games we won gold in cricket m/w, they didn't even win bronze in either. There was one day where we defeated them in 3 games at once with the squash one coming from 2 match points. WC we smashed them and they lost to Afg and closely to SA. Last AC till this T20 WC, excellent run. Nov 19 ke alava. Anthony de Mello (seriously, change the name !!!!) series too was dope with so many youngsters making their mark, ending the stupid Bazball hype. Norman, Suhaan and Frustrated 3
Ultimate_Game Posted July 26, 2024 Author Posted July 26, 2024 1 hour ago, deathmonger said: Man, last year AC to WC was so good. AC we won, kicked Pak ass. Pak also lost close match to SL. Asian Games we won gold in cricket m/w, they didn't even win bronze in either. There was one day where we defeated them in 3 games at once with the squash one coming from 2 match points. WC we smashed them and they lost to Afg and closely to SA. Well if you look at it, India totally derailed Pakistan and demolished them mentally in that Asia Cup game where we scored 350+ and dismissed them for 120 odd. They haven't really recovered since that hammering. Before that there was so much talk about Indian batting not able to play their fast bowlers with the phrase "can't play them" being thrown around. And apparently they were ranked no. in ODIs and favorites for the World Cup. Pak were actually talking about winning the WC in India And then that Asia Cup game happened and they haven't recovered since. That was mental integration which Allan Border and Steve Waugh would be proud of. Now they're mentally scarred to such an extent they simply don't have any belief of them beating us Norman, AuxiliA, Suhaan and 2 others 2 3
deathmonger Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Well if you look at it, India totally derailed Pakistan and demolished them mentally in that Asia Cup game where we scored 350+ and dismissed them for 120 odd. They haven't really recovered since that hammering. Before that there was so much talk about Indian batting not able to play their fast bowlers with the phrase "can't play them" being thrown around. And apparently they were ranked no. in ODIs and favorites for the World Cup. Pak were actually talking about winning the WC in India And then that Asia Cup game happened and they haven't recovered since. That was mental integration which Allan Border and Steve Waugh would be proud of. Now they're mentally scarred to such an extent they simply don't have any belief of them beating us Dew-bai t20 wins in 21 and 22 made them believe they were on our level. We showed them aukaat. There was no "recovering". They are just poor. Even in 2018 and 19 we thumped them badly. Were also getting beaten in home tests by Aus and Eng (Eng was whitewash). Their relatively good showings in WC 2021, 22 and AC 22 (none of which they won btw) along with faaltu rankings deluded them into believing they were a top team. Edited July 26, 2024 by deathmonger Norman, Ultimate_Game, Frustrated and 1 other 4
Ultimate_Game Posted July 26, 2024 Author Posted July 26, 2024 3 minutes ago, deathmonger said: Dew-bai t20 wins in 21 and 22 made them believe they were on our level. We showed them aukaat. There was no "recovering". They are just poor. Even in 2018 and 19 we thumped them badly. Were also getting beaten in home tests by Aus and Eng (Eng was whitewash). Their relatively good showings in WC 2021, 22 and AC 22 (none of which they won btw) along with faaltu rankings deluded them into believing they were a top team. True but after that Asia Cup humiliation they've even given up the pretense of competing. That hammering simply took any belief they had. After that they're struggling to even beat the minnows. That Asia Cup game broke them mentally and I doubt the current lot can beat India. They've to move away from the current lot and hope newbies can be competitive. Norman and raki05 1 1
Tillu Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 After the test series with England they also fully understood what would happen if they played bilateral cricket with us. Frustrated, Gollum and Ultimate_Game 3
Kron Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 2 hours ago, Gollum said: They give us plenty of trouble, especially on their pitches. Yea cause we don't take them seriously lol
deathmonger Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: True but after that Asia Cup humiliation they've even given up the pretense of competing. That hammering simply took any belief they had. After that they're struggling to even beat the minnows. That Asia Cup game broke them mentally and I doubt the current lot can beat India. They've to move away from the current lot and hope newbies can be competitive. true but their good results were a question of scheduling. they are still an okish t20 team who can run us close like 2024. they were a poor odi team who got smashed (2018 ac X 2, 2019 wc). they still lost to minnows earlier (wc 2022) 2021-23 they just had a very favourable run due to dubai t20s and weak oppositions. like pak test team 2010-16. they toured outside asia once in 2013, got whitewashed but won plenty of home series to get to no 1. drew in england in 16 but then got whitewashed in nz and aus after that. 2021-23 they still lost home test series to aus/eng, drew vs nz at home/wi away. even the wcs and ac they didn't win. they were also dropping bilateral loi series against eng, aus, nz. it was their 2-2 t20 record vs india during that period plus beating up c/d teams during ipl which made them believe they were decent. it's not like they have started losing what they were winning before. odi wcs they have been trash since 2003. tours in aus since forever. losing loi series to nz/eng since forever. t20 wc have been pretty poor since 2014 except for dew-bai 2021. 2022 netherlands and rain helped them else would have been a first round exit. they have home series against bang and wi which i expect them to win after which they'll get whitewashed in sa. Edited July 26, 2024 by deathmonger Ultimate_Game 1
Norman Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 4 hours ago, deathmonger said: Their relatively good showings in WC 2021, 22 and AC 22 (none of which they won btw) along with faaltu rankings deluded them into believing they were a top team. Not just them , it also deluded our paranoid bunch here on ICF. There were talks of Pakistan overtaking us in white ball cricket and them potentially "smashing" us thrice in a span of month. It was really funny to watch. New guy, Ultimate_Game and Frustrated 3
Norman Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 5 hours ago, Gollum said: Last AC till this T20 WC, excellent run. Nov 19 ke alava. Anthony de Mello (seriously, change the name !!!!) series too was dope with so many youngsters making their mark, ending the stupid Bazball hype. Yup..that Ahmedabad final defeat still sticks out like a sore thumb but we have been top notch in this time period (Asia cup 2023 - Present) and we kinda take this for granted. Asia cup winners World cup finalists 1-1 draw in South Africa 4-1 win against Bazball England T20 WC winners Frustrated 1
Norman Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 If only Dravid idiot didn't mess up with the pitch preparation in Ahmedabad, the last 8 months would have been our greatest ever run. Apparently, that clown instructed the curators to not water the surface for three days in a row leading up to the final.
deathmonger Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 I so wish the first AC game wouldn't have been rained off. On that pitch, against Bumrah-Siraj-Kuldeep lol. Would have been 55 all out. They were celebrating for a week post that. Some Pakistani on twitter said - Shaheen is gonna repeat that in Ahmedabad. All Indians know that and they can't do anything about it. Lol. Sofa was deposited in the stands. Ultimate_Game 1
Norman Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 15 minutes ago, deathmonger said: I so wish the first AC game wouldn't have been rained off. On that pitch, against Bumrah-Siraj-Kuldeep lol. Would have been 55 all out. They were celebrating for a week post that. Our resident pawkee paichaan @the don was jumping up and down like frog in a bowl , saying they would have chased 268 against us in 38 overs. Cue next game, they got bowled out for 128 on an even better batting surface. Frustrated and Ultimate_Game 2
deathmonger Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, Norman said: Our resident pawkee paichaan @the don was jumping up and down like frog in a bowl , saying they would have chased 268 against us in 38 overs. Cue next game, they got bowled out for 128 on an even better batting surface. in ahmedabad on a complete flattie they couldn't make 200 lol. even in ac 2018 on flat pitches one match they made 162. Norman and Ultimate_Game 2
singhvivek141 Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 14 minutes ago, Norman said: Our resident pawkee paichaan @the don was jumping up and down like frog in a bowl , saying they would have chased 268 against us in 38 overs. Cue next game, they got bowled out for 128 on an even better batting surface. On top of that..their josh jazba and junooni bowlers like Rauf & Naseem ran away like a scared pussy under the pretext of injury. Leaving that 2 over trundler alone to face the wrath. With such jhandu coward chaap bowlers, who cant do jack without chucking or using bottle cap...no wonder their bowling attack has gone to pigs. But instead of addressing the core problem, PCB is more interested on blaming the batters, who in reality are their 1% of saving grace. Norman and Ultimate_Game 1 1
New guy Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 7 hours ago, Tillu said: After the test series with England they also fully understood what would happen if they played bilateral cricket with us. Making Mamoon their Prime Minister might yet save their country. Tillu, Ultimate_Game and Stan AF 3
deathmonger Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 1 minute ago, New guy said: Making Mamoon their Prime Minister might yet save their country. Mamoon's account has been hacked I think now. New guy 1
Ultimate_Game Posted July 26, 2024 Author Posted July 26, 2024 40 minutes ago, deathmonger said: Mamoon's account has been hacked I think now. I think the mods there took over the account and banned him just like what their army does with the govt. They couldn't bear to hear the bitter truth from him after the WT20 New guy 1
Tillu Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 Mamoons knockout punches single handedly chased away so many India haters on that forum. Without him that forum would have been even bigger cesspool. Bhaag veeru Bhaag tries so hard to be the Indian Mamoon, but he's just a poser.
New guy Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 56 minutes ago, deathmonger said: Mamoon's account has been hacked I think now. I think the mods just banned him and took his account, they are a big Babar supporter all of a sudden. Ultimate_Game 1
Ultimate_Game Posted July 26, 2024 Author Posted July 26, 2024 4 hours ago, deathmonger said: true but their good results were a question of scheduling. they are still an okish t20 team who can run us close like 2024. they were a poor odi team who got smashed (2018 ac X 2, 2019 wc). they still lost to minnows earlier (wc 2022) 2021-23 they just had a very favourable run due to dubai t20s and weak oppositions. like pak test team 2010-16. they toured outside asia once in 2013, got whitewashed but won plenty of home series to get to no 1. drew in england in 16 but then got whitewashed in nz and aus after that. 2021-23 they still lost home test series to aus/eng, drew vs nz at home/wi away. even the wcs and ac they didn't win. they were also dropping bilateral loi series against eng, aus, nz. it was their 2-2 t20 record vs india during that period plus beating up c/d teams during ipl which made them believe they were decent. it's not like they have started losing what they were winning before. odi wcs they have been trash since 2003. tours in aus since forever. losing loi series to nz/eng since forever. t20 wc have been pretty poor since 2014 except for dew-bai 2021. 2022 netherlands and rain helped them else would have been a first round exit. they have home series against bang and wi which i expect them to win after which they'll get whitewashed in sa. 3 hours ago, Norman said: Not just them , it also deluded our paranoid bunch here on ICF. There were talks of Pakistan overtaking us in white ball cricket and them potentially "smashing" us thrice in a span of month. It was really funny to watch. That's why that CT 2017 loss hurts. Coz Pak were a poor team and all we had to do was play %ge cricket to win. Dewbai was due to toss and not really hung up on it but that CT 2017 was lost due to Kohli's hubris of deciding to bowl in a final after winning the toss on a patta. Despite Kumble saying otherwise Kohli decided to chase just to show up Kumble. We all know what Pak does when they have to chase, and that too in a final. All we had to do was put up a par score and it was game over. But we looked the gift horse in the mouth and decided to bowl first. And if we were planning to bowl first, why load up the side with an extra spinner coz you would prefer to make use of the spinner in 2nd innings after the pitch has seen a bit of wear & tear. People can blame Bumrah's no-ball but the real problem was the decision making when we chose to bowl first up on a patta and loading the team with spinners knowing pacers struggle Pak.
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