Texan Posted November 3, 2024 Posted November 3, 2024 On 10/31/2024 at 5:09 AM, zen said: As a Hindu, I have never felt threatened by any Sikh in Canada. A certain section may get involved in “disruptive activities” but there are people like that in India too (including the RW trolls). So far, these disruptive activities appear like barking on streets, empty vessels making some noise (same goes for trolls in India), and so on. If they want, they can waste as much time as they want on protesting against Hindus or whatever. We get to see Palestinians protests against Jews as well. In a way, it is amusing to see such events. What I do not like is an increase in crime rate, scams, blatant attitude, etc. PS These are people who have already blown up an airplane with 300+ on board and almost blew another one. These are people who openly paraded and enacted killing of a former PM of India and glorified the act. These are people who have constantly vandalized Hindu temples throughout Canada. These are people whose leaders have openly threatened Hindus and asked them to leave Canada. If you didn't experience it first hand yet, it doesn't mean that others have not or that you will never experience it in the future. These people have found a new voice in high ranking politicians in the Government and opposition showering them with support and patronage. It will only get worse from here on.
zen Posted November 3, 2024 Posted November 3, 2024 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Texan said: These are people who have already blown up an airplane with 300+ on board and almost blew another one. These are people who openly paraded and enacted killing of a former PM of India and glorified the act. These are people who have constantly vandalized Hindu temples throughout Canada. These are people whose leaders have openly threatened Hindus and asked them to leave Canada. If you didn't experience it first hand yet, it doesn't mean that others have not or that you will never experience it in the future. These people have found a new voice in high ranking politicians in the Government and opposition showering them with support and patronage. It will only get worse from here on. The plane was blown in the 80s. This is 20s. Muslims in India throw stones during Hindu ceremonies far too often and is far more serious than what happens elsewhere. Have you read about the situation is Bengal in India where Hindus suffer? There are concepts such as love jihad. I understand the general concern but such issues can be handled. Such folks can be put in their place (most of them appear to be new immigrants and therefore should be deported back to India. Even if a Canadian, in certain situations, the citizenship can be revoked for first gen). PS below happened in Maharashtra recently: Maharashtra: Islamists abuse and threaten Hindu women over lighting up society on Diwali, video goes viral Edited November 3, 2024 by zen jigjig 1
Chaos Posted November 3, 2024 Posted November 3, 2024 4 minutes ago, zen said: The plane was blown in the 80s. This is 20s. Muslims in India throw stones on Hindu ceremonies far too often and serious than what happens elsewhere. Have you read about the situation is Bengal in India where Hindus actually suffer? I understand the concern but it is nothing that cannot be handled. They can be put in their place. Allooo principal zen 1
ravishingravi Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 It would be good start to save Hindus in Canada.
gattaca Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 (edited) @zen while khalistanis are terrorizing Hindus Edited November 4, 2024 by gattaca ravishingravi 1
ravishingravi Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 19 minutes ago, gattaca said: @zen while khalistanis are terrorizing Hindus To answer the other question. Will Hinduism survive ? Certainly not in Canada. Emblematic of hindu community in general. When they see tiger in the forest, who is going to kill them, instead of grouping and fighting the tiger, they would be busy discussing nature of life, animal rights, deforestation etc etc. Don't have the b##s to fight the fight but willing participants to pull someone down who will fight.
Texan Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 13 hours ago, zen said: The plane was blown in the 80s. This is 20s. Muslims in India throw stones during Hindu ceremonies far too often and is far more serious than what happens elsewhere. Have you read about the situation is Bengal in India where Hindus suffer? There are concepts such as love jihad. I understand the general concern but such issues can be handled. Such folks can be put in their place (most of them appear to be new immigrants and therefore should be deported back to India. Even if a Canadian, in certain situations, the citizenship can be revoked for first gen). PS below happened in Maharashtra recently: Maharashtra: Islamists abuse and threaten Hindu women over lighting up society on Diwali, video goes viral You realize that you are comparing a first World developed country with a meagre population to a developing country with such a huge and diverse population where it is almost impossible to police or prevent such incidents. While you were posting this, look what was happening in Brampton:
zen Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 26 minutes ago, Texan said: You realize that you are comparing a first World developed country with a meagre population to a developing country with such a huge and diverse population where it is almost impossible to police or prevent such incidents. While you were posting this, look what was happening in Brampton: I know where the temple is. I know the area as well. As I said, these are unsophisticated brazen people who ideally should be deported back to India. Let the police handle the issue.
Texan Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 1 minute ago, zen said: I know where the temple is. I know the area as well. As I said, these are unsophisticated brazen people who ideally should be deported back to India. Let the police handle the issue. Nothing is going to happpen when your top politicians don't even have the guts to name Khalistanis as perpetrators when Khalistani flags are in clear view.
randomGuy Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 6 minutes ago, zen said: I know where the temple is. I know the area as well. As I said, these are unsophisticated brazen people who ideally should be deported back to India. Let the police handle the issue. India me kab attack hua? Neither temples are attacked in India by khalistanis nor they have the guts to do so (in whatever small numbers these people are in India). It happens in Canada where politicians empower them and idiots like yourself pretend that there's no issue.
zen Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, Texan said: Nothing is going to happpen when your top politicians don't even have the guts to name Khalistanis as perpetrators when Khalistani flags are in clear view. The issue of Khalistan is b/w people of Punjab and India, which lacks a process that allows for dialogue. This lack of process has allowed groups overseas to take up the control of the narrative. It is also there is the US, the UK, etc. Canada would need to address the law and order situation.
Texan Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 Just now, zen said: The issue of Khalistan is b/w people of Punjab and India, which lacks a process that allows for dialogue. This lack of process has allowed groups overseas to take up the control of the narrative. It is also there is the US, the UK, etc. Canada would need to address the law and order situation. What are you talking about? There is hardly any Khalistani sentiment left in Punjab. It is primarily left only in few Sikh communities in Western countries, cheifly in Canada. If you claim to be a Hindu and still don't have the guts to call a spade a spade, then you along with those with similar mentalities are also part of the problem. someone, diga and randomGuy 3
zen Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 13 minutes ago, Texan said: What are you talking about? There is hardly any Khalistani sentiment left in Punjab. It is primarily left only in few Sikh communities in Western countries, cheifly in Canada. If you claim to be a Hindu and still don't have the guts to call a spade a spade, then you along with those with similar mentalities are also part of the problem. I would prefer the people of Punjab to announce that through a formal process, which should be allowed by GOI, not “others” proclaiming that, and put an end to the matter.
Texan Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, zen said: I would prefer the people of Punjab to announce that through a formal process, which should be allowed by GOI, not “others” proclaiming that, and put an end to the matter. Why should there be such a formal process if there is no such sentiment in Punjab? You cannot ask any state just to be independent if a handful of people want it. Why does India need to do this if this sentiment is mostly being expressed by Sikhs who are Canadian citizens? India has no obligation to cater to demands about its territorial integrity by foreign citizens. If Canadian citizen Khalistanis want a Khalistan, then Canada should conduct a referendum to determine if a Khalistan can be created within Canada to serve their needs.
vvvslaxman Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 I think the whole story is presented differently by different people. They blame each other essentially for starting the fight. It is a law and order situation. There were two groups. One protestors. ANother one counter protestors. 10 or 15 people may be? Each group share videos that suit their narrative. I cannot understand what the hell they are shouting. ALl i hear "Indian government". Can someone tell me what they say? Star wars style fight is funny lol
zen Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, Texan said: Why should there be such a formal process if there is no such sentiment in Punjab? You cannot ask any state just to be independent if a handful of people want it. Why does India need to do this if this sentiment is mostly being expressed by Sikhs who are Canadian citizens? India has no obligation to cater to demands about its territorial integrity by foreign citizens. If Canadian citizen Khalistanis want a Khalistan, then Canada should conduct a referendum to determine if a Khalistan can be created within Canada to serve their needs. Again, I would like GOI to introduce a formal process and let the people of Punjab speak.
Texan Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 Just now, zen said: Again, I would like GOI to introduce a formal process and let the people of Punjab speak. Lol. You are beating around the bush. It's not India's problem if Canadian citizens ask for it. Do it in your country please.
zen Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, Texan said: Lol. You are beating around the bush. It's not India's problem if Canadian citizens ask for it. Do it in your country please. As I said, I want GOI to introduce a formal process and let the people of Punjab hand out the verdict!
Texan Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 Just now, zen said: As I said, I want GOI to introduce a formal process and let the people of Punjab hand out the verdict! LOL. You are in a loop. GOI doesn't work on the whims and fancies of foreign citizens. If Canadian citizens want it, do it in Canada. I will exit your non-stop infinite loop now. Good luck with your Khalistani friends!
zen Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 Just now, Texan said: LOL. You are in a loop. GOI doesn't work on the whims and fancies of foreign citizens. If Canadian citizens want it, do it in Canada. I will exit your non-stop infinite loop now. Good luck with your Khalistani friends! again, I want GOI to introduce a formal process for the “people of Punjab” to speak what is on their mind! Not you, not me!
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