ravishingravi Posted October 15, 2023 Author Posted October 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, gattaca said: Palestinians get millions of dollars of aid if only they used to grow themselves instead of investing in to bad activities and being jealous of Israel they would be in much better position. That aid is a bit like the aid that Indian NGOs get. There is a message that comes with the money.
Lannister Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 Heading towards a potential Palestinian genocide – it's easy to foresee the events that will unfold from here. The actions of the West have greatly damaged their credibility. BacktoCricaddict 1
BacktoCricaddict Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lannister said: Heading towards a potential Palestinian genocide – it's easy to foresee the events that will unfold from here. The actions of the West have greatly damaged their credibility. Unfortunately, there are no good options. Only bad ones and worse ones. There is no way Hamas will surrender in the interest of the Palestinian people for whom they claim they are fighting. There's no way Israel is going to rest easy until they think Hamas is completely destroyed, regardless of the human cost. The reverberations will be felt world over for many decades to come. Even the most inveterate optimist for humanity - such as I have been for 3 decades - cannot justify optimism anymore. Even though I am not an avid student of history, war etc., I can see that, at every turn in history, power trumps kindness, unfettered self-interest trumps sacrificing for others' welfare, tribal affiliations trump humanitarian values, emotion trumps reason, and belief trumps science. "Making the world a better place" is a naive goal. The world will always be a good place for some and terrible for others. It just depends on when and where you are born. Every one of us on this board won this space-and-time lottery where we can sit under a roof with a cup of coffee and complain about Rohit Sharma's fitness or KL Rahul's body language, not having to worry about whether a missile is going to strike us next. Edited October 15, 2023 by BacktoCricaddict diga and sensible-indian 1 1
Lannister Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 47 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Unfortunately, there are no good options. Only bad ones and worse ones. There is no way Hamas will surrender in the interest of the Palestinian people for whom they claim they are fighting. There's no way Israel is going to rest easy until they think Hamas is completely destroyed, regardless of the human cost. The reverberations will be felt world over for many decades to come. Even the most inveterate optimist for humanity - such as I have been for 3 decades - cannot justify optimism anymore. Even though I am not an avid student of history, war etc., I can see that, at every turn in history, power trumps kindness, unfettered self-interest trumps sacrificing for others' welfare, tribal affiliations trump humanitarian values, emotion trumps reason, and belief trumps science. "Making the world a better place" is a naive goal. The world will always be a good place for some and terrible for others. It just depends on when and where you are born. Every one of us on this board won this space-and-time lottery where we can sit under a roof with a cup of coffee and complain about Rohit Sharma's fitness or KL Rahul's body language, not having to worry about whether a missile is going to strike us next. I think that if a World War 3 were to occur, it hasn't been the Ukraine war that triggered it. It is this particular conflict that has the potential to split the world into two factions.
deathmonger Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, Lannister said: I think that if a World War 3 were to occur, it hasn't been the Ukraine war that triggered it. It is this particular conflict that has the potential to split the world into two factions. naah none of the major players feel strongly about this. taiwan and ukraine are flash points cause they actually impact russia/china - major players. only the muslim countries care about palestine and none of them are "big boys" on the global stage. the two anti usa-west big boys of russia and china are quite close with israel.
coffee_rules Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 12:09 PM, BacktoCricaddict said: ABB - Another British Botch-up Settlements in WB and other areas started only after 1967 six day war.
Lannister Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, deathmonger said: naah none of the major players feel strongly about this. taiwan and ukraine are flash points cause they actually impact russia/china - major players. only the muslim countries care about palestine and none of them are "big boys" on the global stage. the two anti usa-west big boys of russia and china are quite close with israel. I didn't say that Russia and China have a sincere interest in the Palestinian cause. They have simply identified where the numbers lies and are going to make use of it.
deathmonger Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Lannister said: I didn't say that Russia and China have a sincere interest in the Palestinian cause. They have simply identified where the numbers lies and are going to make use of it. they won't get too involved. just some statements etc about two state solution etc. both of them recognize both israel and palestine. china especially still needs israeli weapon tech. their weapon tech isn't on the level of the first worlders.
ravishingravi Posted October 15, 2023 Author Posted October 15, 2023 History definitely rhymes. Not sure if next world war will happen exactly like previous ones. But we are seeing foundations of it being laid now.
gattaca Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, deathmonger said: naah none of the major players feel strongly about this. taiwan and ukraine are flash points cause they actually impact russia/china - major players. only the muslim countries care about palestine and none of them are "big boys" on the global stage. the two anti usa-west big boys of russia and china are quite close with israel. Even saudis don’t care much about Palestine they know they can’t control these religious extremists. It’s only Iran because they don’t like Israel and turkey to an extent. Both countries will only do proxy war. Lebanon is another country which was Christian majority and was peaceful slowly the islamists moved in and they hezbollah. I was reading a thread on Twitter about a lady from Lebanon she mentioned they were peaceful and then islamists moved in and took over the country and started kicking out Christians by bombing them very bad. Swag 1
gattaca Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 Watch the video from 6.09 an Israel father is sad but he at same time says his 8 year old daughter is better off being dead than captured and in Gaza. Probably the same way Hindu dads felt in Kashmir or during Islamic invasions in India. EnterTheVoid, dial_100, mishra and 1 other 2 2
ravishingravi Posted October 15, 2023 Author Posted October 15, 2023 Hamas laying out their plan https://twitter.com/TheHarrisSultan/status/1713533009067176062?t=q27airU5FauuxLwkh5c5WA&s=19
DeepSpace Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 9 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Only difference between 9/11 and this one is that imagine terrorists who did or supported 9/11 hid in new jersey using the families as a cover. Would US still not retalitate ? Towns in Israel within 1 km of Gaza. How will the habitants ever be able to live there knowing that Hamas is next door ? This is really an impossible situation and it's only game theoretic to attack now. Hamas obviously does not have any interests of Gazan Palestinians at heart. The Gazans chose Hamas because either they are either ignorant/brainwashed or Palestinian authority has been feckless, incompetent and corrupt (not that Hamas is not, besides being medieval barbaric thugs). The motive behind their attack is to disrupt Israel Saudi relations and bring the focus on Palestinians, but they way they executed is boneheaded and makes it obvious they do not care about the people represent. I want Hamas to get annihilated (they won’t, this will create more militancy), but scores of civilians are will die.
bharathh Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 What I am dumbfounded over is that everyone is crying about Palestinians - but not one person is insisting that Hamas hand over all the hostages back to Israel at once! Why do the hostages' life not matter to all the bleeding hearts crying about Palestinians? BH-BAIB, ravishingravi, Swag and 1 other 1 3
nikrulz Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 Jewish Internet Defense Force - Pay structure
bharathh Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, nikrulz said: Jewish Internet Defense Force - Pay structure Why are they paying in $s instead of Shekels?
coffee_rules Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 The hosts are Indian Muslims who are left of center. Good tpodcast
nikrulz Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 19 hours ago, bharathh said: Why are they paying in $s instead of Shekels? Outsourced Pakistan and China also utilizes similar Bot farms to conduct 5th Generation warfare.
Ranvir Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67129117 Terrorists at it again. No other religious group does this, especially abroad.
deathmonger Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Ranvir said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67129117 Terrorists at it again. No other religious group does this, especially abroad. thing is ultimately this will lead to right wing governments in europe who are gonna * them hard. remember bjp only became something in 89 after muslims refusal to budge on the temples. what is the result - ghettoization, ostracization, they are hated by everyone.
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