diga Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, deathmonger said: thing is ultimately this will lead to right wing governments in europe who are gonna * them hard. remember bjp only became something in 89 after muslims refusal to budge on the temples. what is the result - ghettoization, ostracization, they are hated by everyone. Newzealand has a right wing govt this week
IndianRenegade Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) FRANCE France looking to deport immigrants with extremist ties after teacher killed by man shouting 'Allahu Akbar' Folks from this block would have been talking big about free speech, criticizing india for Nijjar just a few weeks ago. Now they are cancelling students who support Palestine, Threatening to deport them. As soon it hits them & their friends, all the free speech, expression, rule of law is out of the window. Edited October 17, 2023 by IndianRenegade ravishingravi, Lone Wolf and Laaloo 3
bharathh Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 Liberal arts academics - insane? https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/cornell-university-professor-calls-hamas-terror-attack-exhilarating-and-exciting/articleshow/104482832.cms
Ranvir Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 11 hours ago, deathmonger said: thing is ultimately this will lead to right wing governments in europe who are gonna * them hard. remember bjp only became something in 89 after muslims refusal to budge on the temples. what is the result - ghettoization, ostracization, they are hated by everyone. Unfortunately other law abiding minorities will also suffer.
coffee_rules Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 Congress Govind state. Bengaluru stands with Palestine! Bengaluru people stand for Palestine. You guys have completely lost my respect. pic.twitter.com/N305otPty5— Shimorekato (@iam_shimorekato) October 16, 2023
coffee_rules Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 7 hours ago, bharathh said: Liberal arts academics - insane? https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/cornell-university-professor-calls-hamas-terror-attack-exhilarating-and-exciting/articleshow/104482832.cms Look at our desi Humanities students in Harvard supporting Hamas. Making India proud These r indian origin harvard students who justified Hamas terrorism. Angelica KumarNeha Bhatia Karina Mahida Shraddha JoshiSravya TadepalliShivani GuptaNeha Bhatia Kushal ChattopadhyayVictor Ghosh Juliya BhuiyanIndians also should ashamed— Hchko§ (@HchkoRE) October 12, 2023
bharathh Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Look at our desi Humanities students in Harvard supporting Hamas. Making India proud Not sure what lure Islam has for socialists. Can anyone explain? What's the deal? How can the religion that has butchered and oppressed most - esp in recent history have so many sympathizers? Would make a good thesis if they can get around to actually look at things objectively.
ravishingravi Posted October 17, 2023 Author Posted October 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, bharathh said: Not sure what lure Islam has for socialists. Can anyone explain? What's the deal? How can the religion that has butchered and oppressed most - esp in recent history have so many sympathizers? Would make a good thesis if they can get around to actually look at things objectively. Its probably on the back of 9/11 where lets say there was negative profiling and the left was concretizing the oppressed and oppressor narrative. These two things came together with Muslims offering a dedicated vote base.
bharathh Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Its probably on the back of 9/11 where lets say there was negative profiling and the left was concretizing the oppressed and oppressor narrative. These two things came together with Muslims offering a dedicated vote base. No it goes way back IMO. Common thing seen in France, India, pretty much any democracy. Of course the Arabs and Islamic countries don't allow leftists in their countries have any rights so can't really compare the converse. Even their leftists flee home and in the process of sponging off democracies that has given them a home bash the majority in those countries. ravishingravi 1
mishra Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) I think Havcard, Oxford are JNU of West. Edited October 17, 2023 by mishra coffee_rules 1
coffee_rules Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ravishingravi said: Its probably on the back of 9/11 where lets say there was negative profiling and the left was concretizing the oppressed and oppressor narrative. These two things came together with Muslims offering a dedicated vote base. It all started with British Muslims coining the term in Islamophobia in the mid-1990s, especially with the slur - Baki. it was popularized by all acedemicians as the Liberal Left likes to play Identity politics. They had success in Homophobia (rightfully so) in the 1980s and it normalized the acceptance of hatred towards Gays. Same model with a false narrative that Muslims are hated world over, when it is not so, was used. They caught on with the Israel-Palestinian struggle etc , made it a case of Muslim hate by Jews when it was a war for terriroty, Whereever Muslims had a lower-hand in Bosnia, Kosovo, Azerbaijan, (where they are a dominating force), Chechnya, Kashmir, Afghanistan etc,, it became fashiobable to use the Victim card and popularize the Identity politics that the Left Liberal academicians love to campa\gfn for. Latest entrant is gender-politics and a new term called Transphobe! Edited October 17, 2023 by coffee_rules ravishingravi 1
BacktoCricaddict Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 14 hours ago, IndianRenegade said: FRANCE France looking to deport immigrants with extremist ties after teacher killed by man shouting 'Allahu Akbar' Folks from this block would have been talking big about free speech, criticizing india for Nijjar just a few weeks ago. Now they are cancelling students who support Palestine, Threatening to deport them. As soon it hits them & their friends, all the free speech, expression, rule of law is out of the window. Unfortunately, the US Govt can't deport this guy: https://apnews.com/article/muslim-boy-killed-chicago-landlord-will-county-5135dea218326d6e639a996564d9369e An Illinois landlord accused of fatally stabbing a 6-year-old Muslim boy and seriously wounding his mother was charged with a hate crime after police and relatives said he singled out the victims because of their faith and as a response to the war between Israel and Hamas. In recent days, police in U.S. cities and federal authorities have been on high alert for violence driven by antisemitic or Islamophobic sentiments. FBI officials, along with Jewish and Muslim groups, have reported an increase of hateful and threatening rhetoric.
BacktoCricaddict Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Look at our desi Humanities students in Harvard supporting Hamas. Making India proud These r indian origin harvard students who justified Hamas terrorism. Angelica Kumar Neha Bhatia Karina Mahida Shraddha Joshi Sravya Tadepalli Shivani Gupta Neha Bhatia Kushal Chattopadhyay Victor Ghosh Juliya Bhuiyan Indians also should ashamed — Hchko§ (@HchkoRE) October 12, 2023 I doubt if any of those kids are Indian. And there is no reason for Indians to be ashamed of them. That professor Rickford, though? Appalling. How can anyone think that supporting Palestinian civilians should also include supporting Hamas' evil deeds? Unfathomable logic. Edited October 17, 2023 by BacktoCricaddict
Alam_dar Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 4 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Look at our desi Humanities students in Harvard supporting Hamas. Making India proud These r indian origin harvard students who justified Hamas terrorism. Angelica Kumar Neha Bhatia Karina Mahida Shraddha Joshi Sravya Tadepalli Shivani Gupta Neha Bhatia Kushal Chattopadhyay Victor Ghosh Juliya Bhuiyan Indians also should ashamed — Hchko§ (@HchkoRE) October 12, 2023 They are not supporting Hamas, but they are supporting the rights of the Palestinian people. There is a difference between them.
coffee_rules Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Alam_dar said: They are not supporting Hamas, but they are supporting the rights of the Palestinian people. There is a difference between them. Read the statement. They blame Israel policy for the present attacks. This means they stand with Hamas action. They never condemned Hamas action. This is the same stand of your apM and also that of terrorists saying the attack was longtime coming.
coffee_rules Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 Billionaire Victoria's Secret founder Leslie Wexner has officially cut all ties and financial support to Harvard in a blistering letter after Harvard's "dismal failure" condemning the Hamas terror attacks. JUST IN: Billionaire Victoria's Secret founder Leslie Wexner has officially cut all ties and financial support to Harvard in a blistering letter after Harvard's "dismal failure" condemning the Hamas terror attacks. Hamas Harvard: FAFO."We are stunned and sickened by the… pic.twitter.com/EiiYfjgwyc— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) October 17, 2023 bharathh 1
Alam_dar Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Read the statement. They blame Israel policy for the present attacks. This means they stand with Hamas action. They never condemned Hamas action. This is the same stand of your apM and also that of terrorists saying the attack was longtime coming. They should have condemned the Hamas attack and called it terrorism. But then all those people are also responsible who didn't call Israeli occupation of illegal settlements and killing of Palestinians before this event, not TERRORISM.
IndianRenegade Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 Things escalating very quickly, hospital seems to have been hit 500+ dead per reports. Claims & counter claims that it was Israel Air Raid vs Hamas Misfired Rockets. Doesn't look good.
DeepSpace Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) Sadly this is turning out to be clusterfaack. Looks like Hamas has reached satisfied its objective. It wanted to distract Israel from Arab talks and inflict a disproportionate response on Gaza so the focus is totally turned upside down. Edited October 18, 2023 by DeepSpace
bharathh Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Alam_dar said: They should have condemned the Hamas attack and called it terrorism. But then all those people are also responsible who didn't call Israeli occupation of illegal settlements and killing of Palestinians before this event, not TERRORISM. Are there instances of the IDF doing what the Hamas have done in Gaza or the West Bank unannounced? They have kidnapped women, children etc.? Suddenly gone to a residential area and gone house to house kill people? When have the IDF been the first to attack the Palestinians - esp civilians? In fact Hamas have paraded naked, broken women on the streets spitting on them etc. Didn't see any Palestinians condemning them. Maybe the ones in Gaza are too cowed to do so.. but what happened to Fatah and the people of West Bank? Why take non-military hostages like women and children? I'm sure you have seen all the celebrations after Hamas struck. Did the ppl of Palestine not realize that a red line has been crossed then? Why not get rid of Hamas for so many years? They cry hoarse about Israel which - despite being the enemy - provides them everything from food to water to medical facilities. Why have the Palestinians (who get so much aid every year) not been able to develop? Here is what they teach their children. How can they ever improve when this kind of indoctrination happens from a young age? All this bull about innocent children and women is nonsense. Only seen this kind of mindset in Kashmir, Pak and Bengal - which is why most Indians support Israel. The Allah hu Akbar shouts while committing the most horrible of acts seems very personal. https://unwatch.org/un-teachers-call-to-murder-jews-reveals-new-report/ https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4934332,00.html https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=741479389733542 https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/educating-for-hatred-and-violence-against-israel-in-a-performance-held-in-a-kindergarten-sponsored-by-the-palestinian-islamic-jihad-pij/ Edited October 18, 2023 by bharathh coffee_rules and ravishingravi 2
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