If India manages to defeat each team comprehensively before KOs , then what's the point of SF and final?

[Vilander]

If india has comprehensively beat every other team then why worry about doing it an other time, it should be easy they will do it again. If they did not then its perhaps not that comprehensive and hence them not getting the cup 

[Need4Speed]

hey OP dont get nervous..team is determined to win this time :D

[SRT100]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

We haven't beaten everyone easily.

 

Aus had us 2/3 chasing 200 and could have been 20/4

 

NZ had us 170/5 with only tail left with 80+ to score.

 

Eng has us 3 down early too.

 

It is worth seeing how they respond to such situation in a must win game.

 

Im glad you pointed all this out.

 

I dont believe India has completely outshined the opposition. There has been times, India has been in trouble and in knockout games, India have tended to fail when in vulnerable positions than succeed.

 

Lets see if India can win the WC, if they are 20/4 or 1705/5 in games.

 

The other pertinent point, is that really India has been under zero pressure. India know there is enough games for them to qualify, so they havent felt the pressure of being 204 or 170/5 because there is always another game ahead for them.

 

Sudden death games, seperates the men from the boys.

 

Please no one get fooled by the Dravid Mentality, India have done nothing or achieve anything, but qualified for finals.

 

The real test comes in the semi.

 

Beating SA,Pakistan, Aust or NZ wont be easy. The opposition will go in as massive underdog with little pressure. India will have the weight of the entire nation.

[IndianRenegade]

Handling the pressure of KO is a test seperate the best from the rest, but I prefer the IPL model of providing the toppers an additional chance in Semis.

[goose]

if everyone played each other twice ie 18 games each, the absurdity of needing a knockout game to decide the champion would kick in. the current format has it just about right. if you win 9 games in a row then lose the 10th when it ‘matters’, you probably deserve to not be called champion

[Trichromatic]

22 minutes ago, goose said:

if everyone played each other twice ie 18 games each, the absurdity of needing a knockout game to decide the champion would kick in. the current format has it just about right. if you win 9 games in a row then lose the 10th when it ‘matters’, you probably deserve to not be called champion

 

That's what the question. Why does 2nd match matter most?

[Serpico]

5 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

 

That's what the question. Why does 2nd match matter most?

Because the stakes are higher. What is so hard to understand? Walking 100 meters in a park.. walking 100 meters on a tight rope are not same level challenge, even if its the same distance. Which one do you think deserves a medal?

Edited November 3, 2023 by Serpico

[goose]

27 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

 

That's what the question. Why does 2nd match matter most?

because everyone said so. 

[SRT100]

6 hours ago, IndianRenegade said:

Handling the pressure of KO is a test seperate the best from the rest, but I prefer the IPL model of providing the toppers an additional chance in Semis.

 

Im not against this kind of finals format given the length of the tournament.

 

Im surprised that the ICC did not opt for this to give the table leader a double chance to qualify for the Final.

[SRT100]

3 hours ago, goose said:

if everyone played each other twice ie 18 games each, the absurdity of needing a knockout game to decide the champion would kick in. the current format has it just about right. if you win 9 games in a row then lose the 10th when it ‘matters’, you probably deserve to not be called champion

 

Im not against this for Test match cricket, ie not having a Final.

 

However, the whole idea of ODI match is the best team on that particular day.

 

Its a One Day Match. Not a One Month Month.

[Vijy]

the point is to perform well in high pressure games where a loss means getting knocked out.

[coffee_rules]

They have defeated all 8 teams , only NED remains which they are going to anyway. I say give the cup to India and send everybody home now!!

[SRT100]

8 hours ago, Vijy said:

the point is to perform well in high pressure games where a loss means getting knocked out.

Exactly.

 

India's performance in this WC will count for zero if we get knocked out or lose the Final.

 

From this position of strength, we must win it.

[Vijy]

14 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

Exactly.

 

India's performance in this WC will count for zero if we get knocked out or lose the Final.

 

From this position of strength, we must win it.

or we must choke. one of these will happen

[SRT100]

10 minutes ago, Vijy said:

or we must choke. one of these will happen

While the batting did a wonderful job yesterday, its still my main concern.

 

Gill, SKY and KL can all easily choke, meaning that Hitman, Kohli and Iyer must score the majority of the runs. Thats asking a lot, but Hitman and Kohli can definitely anchor the innings and do this.

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, SRT100 said:

While the batting did a wonderful job yesterday, its still my main concern.

 

Gill, SKY and KL can all easily choke, meaning that Hitman, Kohli and Iyer must score the majority of the runs. Thats asking a lot, but Hitman and Kohli can definitely anchor the innings and do this.

Relying on Iyer to score runs is like relying on manish pandey to score runs.

 

It's all down to the old men: Ro & Ko

[SRT100]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

Relying on Iyer to score runs is like relying on manish pandey to score runs.

 

It's all down to the old men: Ro & Ko

God help us.

Didnt Manish Pandey score a century in a final for India vs Australia in Australia?

[Vijy]

20 minutes ago, SRT100 said:

God help us.

Didnt Manish Pandey score a century in a final for India vs Australia in Australia?

yes, he did. not far removed from iyer, he is

[Iconoclast]

India managed to defeat teams comfortably in bilaterals.

 

What's the point of even having a World Cup ?

[rangeelaraja]

43 minutes ago, Iconoclast said:

India managed to defeat teams comfortably in bilaterals.

 

What's the point of even having a World Cup ?

 

So that the world can observe Pak awam do duas that if A beats B  & X beats Y and the match between P and Q gets rained off, Pak will qualify for the semis.

 

Everytime getting into the semis is about duas from the awam hoping that random teams lose against each other. 

 

:P:

Edited November 6, 2023 by rangeelaraja