U19 WC 2024 Discussion thread

[Mosher]

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

Tuk tuk knocks.  Musheer seems to have shown some aggression.

[Need4Speed]

Pak pace bowling looking good..even Afghans have good pace..for India naman Tiwari looked sharpish..

may be India can qualify for semis..but bowling is not exciting me enough atleast in the first match..

[rkt.india]

 

 

Pakistan has picked their tall 6'8 bowler Zeeshan while our tall 6'9 bowler Nishanth is sitting at home. These pitches on Asia cup are bouncy. WC pitches in SA will also be bouncy. Gowda who is tall needs to play. jayant goyat and Nishant both tall should be in the squad. 

 

 

 

[nsareen]

28 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

 

 

Pakistan has picked their tall 6'8 bowler Zeeshan while our tall 6'9 bowler Nishanth is sitting at home. These pitches on Asia cup are bouncy. WC pitches in SA will also be bouncy. Gowda who is tall needs to play. jayant goyat and Nishant both tall should be in the squad. 

 

 

 

 

Agree, the selectors went for all rounders and  nippy bowlers, they need to pick bowlers for conditions, maybe they did not expect such green pitches in dubai where ball seems around for 16-20 overs and went with the current batch.. 

[nsareen]

Just now, nsareen said:

 

Agree, the selectors went for all rounders and  nippy bowlers, they need to pick bowlers for conditions, maybe they did not expect such green pitches in dubai where ball seems around for 16-20 overs and went with the current batch.. 

Also they may need to send spies to SA to retrieve information about pitches and conditions in January and pick the squad accorsingly..

[Need4Speed]

8 hours ago, nsareen said:

Also they may need to send spies to SA to retrieve information about pitches and conditions in January and pick the squad accorsingly..

they can ask seniors who are touring there currently they will let them knwo about the music faced haha

[rkt.india]

Aaradhya playing today. Looks sharp. 

[nsareen]

13 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Aaradhya playing today. Looks sharp. 

 

Is he also short or decent enough for a bowler ?

[tapandrun]

13 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Aaradhya playing today. Looks sharp. 

looked skiddy , Umesh kind of approach

[tapandrun]

4 minutes ago, nsareen said:

 

Is he also short or decent enough for a bowler ?

looks short.

[rkt.india]

 

 

 

Jayant Goyat 

[Mosher]

Aaradhya is short but well built. Looks like a young Umesh. Sharp skiddy pace. Lovely bowling action.

[nsareen]

26 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Aaradhya is short but well built. Looks like a young Umesh. Sharp skiddy pace. Lovely bowling action.

 

Nice action and strongly built, height as has been observed doesnt go well with tall bowlers in india as a general observation. So thats fine if there are strong skills to support pace.

[nsareen]

Just now, nsareen said:

 

Nice action and strongly built, height as has been observed doesnt go well with tall bowlers in india as a general observation. So thats fine if there are strong skills to support pace.

 

I am hoping Prem from Mumbai gets to play a game or two instead of somebody, he is also somebody who has a strong action, a touch taller than aaradhya 

[nsareen]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

 

 

 

Jayant Goyat 

He did really well and it seems he can hold the bat too, was in two big partnerships with Ansh Gosai... However his main skill bowling has been good too, he has been amongst the wickets and has troubled top order batsmen.. From action wise, looks decent and seems he can grow stronger from the frame he has today, plus he is 6,3" so he has things in his favour, unlucky not to be selected.

[rkt.india]

Why do they continue to play only two frontline seamers on these bouncy and grassy pitches is perplexing! Musheer can be the second spinner instead of Saumy pandey and bring in third seamer.

[nsareen]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Why do they continue to play only two frontline seamers on these bouncy and grassy pitches is perplexing! Musheer can be the second spinner instead of Saumy pandey and bring in third seamer.

 

all rounders.. none of the other front line seamers can call themselves all rounders.. and the general thinking of the management seem to go with bits and pieces cricketers like saumy pandey, abhishek murugan... both can bat and ball.. I feel even if they had to go with spinners to bat, they should have bought Lakshay Sherawat the leggie who had an exceptional NCA tournament with the ball and bat... Specially against the teams with many left handers like pakistan, they need quality offspinner or X factor spinner if not seamers.. Simple innocuous left arm spinners will not have much of an impact. Do not see any good spinners too in the current pool, they are strongly relying on batting only to get them out... 

Edited December 12, 2023 by nsareen

[neel roy]

47 minutes ago, nsareen said:

 

all rounders.. none of the other front line seamers can call themselves all rounders.. and the general thinking of the management seem to go with bits and pieces cricketers like saumy pandey, abhishek murugan... both can bat and ball.. I feel even if they had to go with spinners to bat, they should have bought Lakshay Sherawat the leggie who had an exceptional NCA tournament with the ball and bat... Specially against the teams with many left handers like pakistan, they need quality offspinner or X factor spinner if not seamers.. Simple innocuous left arm spinners will not have much of an impact. Do not see any good spinners too in the current pool, they are strongly relying on batting only to get them out... 

exactly my thought.. we have lots and lots of fast bowlers now.. we need quality spinners.. since 2012 england tour of india where they won 2-1  only 7 spinners have played for india in tests which is absolutely crazy..not counting harbhajan who played 1 odd test abd sundar who basically played as an all rounder... and out of those 7 all are above 30 .. so we dont have any young spinners..kuldeep and axar turns 30 next year..

 

ashwin

jadeja

kuldeep

axar

nadeem

mishra

jayant yadav

 

can we bank on Axar Sundar Kuldeep in the home series against all nations from 2027 onwards..no idea

Edited December 12, 2023 by neel roy

[nsareen]

10 minutes ago, neel roy said:

exactly my thought.. we have lots and lots of fast bowlers now.. we need quality spinners.. since 2012 england tour of india where they won 2-1  only 7 spinners have played for india in tests which is absolutely crazy..not counting harbhajan who played 1 odd test abd sundar who basically played as an all rounder... and out of those 7 all are above 30 .. so we dont have any young spinners..kuldeep and axar turns 30 next year..

 

ashwin

jadeja

kuldeep

axar

nadeem

mishra

jayant yadav

 

can we bank on Axar Sundar Kuldeep in the home series against all nations from 2027 onwards..no idea

 

case study of Suyash Sharma... How the system has failed unorthodox X factor bowlers.. I feel the Indian coaching system is to blame with no emergence of unique Ingeneous bowlers, since the coaches do not encourage such bowlers to succeed and hell bent on only learning the basics.. Even in junior cricket, when it comes to selection matters, preference is given to orthodox bowlers..  If we hear Suyash sharma's interview with Manjot Kalra, he reveals how he wanted to leave cricket due to non selection even after doing really well.

 

Short summary, there are many many good bowlers even spinners, they are not selected / nurtured properly and are left on their own..

Edited December 12, 2023 by nsareen