Mariyam Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 1 minute ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said: It was an opportunity lost to learn how to accelerate under pressure. Its easy to slow down for a century but could have pushed oneself to see how one can do when trying to accelerate under pressure. Shameless cricketers we have Wasn't he supposed to be the anchor? We scored almost 400. He had a slow start actually. Faulting Kohli in that game is baal ki khaal level behes. It was our bowling that had disintegrated mentally till Shami came on. Link to comment
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Mariyam said: Wasn't he supposed to be the anchor? We scored almost 400. He had a slow start actually. Faulting Kohli in that game is baal ki khaal level behes. It was our bowling that had disintegrated mentally till Shami came on. the anchor job was done. Why does one slow down to get a century when 20 runs more can be a good cushion plus even if yo get out your lower order comes in. How will lower order tackle situations when the top order is slowing down for centuries? Hit out or get out after 75 - 80 runs and this happened multiple times in the league games. Anchor job does not mean keep playing anchor for 50 overs and slow down closer to a century Edited November 20 by Haarkarjeetgaye sensible-indian and SRT100 2 Link to comment
AuxiliA Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 Australia has plenty of advantages in cricket/sports that we don't have. Their players have to cope with far lesser pressure than what our players have to. The are far far ahead of us on per Capita income and sports infrastructure available to common folks. They have much better physiques on average. 90 percent of our ancestors were illiterate and malnourished when we gained independence. They were already rich AF back then. Will take a few more generations to close this gap. The only advantage we have is our huge population. But that won't do us much good unless we improve on per capita terms, because sports is about quality not quantity. It's still 11 vs 11 on the playing field and not 1.4B vs 25M. raki05 and Sgattick10 1 1 Link to comment
nitinbwj Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 1 hour ago, Mariyam said: Strange post. What is the point of ICF if not to celebrate Indian cricket/ Indian cricketers? Indian Cricket - Resounding Yes, Worshipping meaningless Individual Milestones - Hell No. Lone Wolf, team_india_lover2019 and SRT100 2 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 3 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: Common man also sees how India celebrates personal milestones excessively unlike other nations. For the betterment of the country I genuinely wish interest in cricket declines in India significantly and towards other more productive things. Every 20-30 years we will fluke one major tournament - in this time nations like Australia, NZ will win 5-6. We can't even dominate one sport where our board controls the game and have to look upto tiny countries like Australia and NZ. It is beyond shameful. That yellow kurta guy is spot on and connects with ICF emotions. He exposed stats padder, kohli worship, hardik pandya show off and media overhyped. Guy was absolute jam. rangeelaraja, Lone Wolf, SRT100 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
raki05 Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 1 hour ago, AuxiliA said: Australia has plenty of advantages in cricket/sports that we don't have. Their players have to cope with far lesser pressure than what our players have to. The are far far ahead of us on per Capita income and sports infrastructure available to common folks. They have much better physiques on average. 90 percent of our ancestors were illiterate and malnourished when we gained independence. They were already rich AF back then. Will take a few more generations to close this gap. The only advantage we have is our huge population. But that won't do us much good unless we improve on per capita terms, because sports is about quality not quantity. It's still 11 vs 11 on the playing field and not 1.4B vs 25M. I agree pressure, expectations media over hyping to mint cheap money , cheerleading commentator's giving overhyped statements on behalf of TM creates so much pressure on players. On top of it super useless bollywood, sitting PM, home ministers and all big shot gathering as if its some national festival. Why cant people stay home and let this team play for once quietly so that they can win something. Under the huge pressure and expectations TM forced to rigged the pitch which backfired. AuxiliA and rangeelaraja 2 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 2 hours ago, AuxiliA said: Australia has plenty of advantages in cricket/sports that we don't have. Their players have to cope with far lesser pressure than what our players have to. The are far far ahead of us on per Capita income and sports infrastructure available to common folks. They have much better physiques on average. 90 percent of our ancestors were illiterate and malnourished when we gained independence. They were already rich AF back then. Will take a few more generations to close this gap. The only advantage we have is our huge population. But that won't do us much good unless we improve on per capita terms, because sports is about quality not quantity. It's still 11 vs 11 on the playing field and not 1.4B vs 25M. I wont pick apart every point you make but lets start with physique. Diet plays a huge role, the Indian players have only themselves to blame here. Having a pregnant captain does not help. Link to comment
kepler37b Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 4 hours ago, Texan said: Exactly. Use BCCI funds for developing Olympic gold quest. Just see how giving some small amount of importance to Olympic sports got us our first medal in athletics (that too gold!). It is high time, this wasteful expenditure from BCCI is reined in and used to develop other sports. The issue is NOT fund mate. Or Atleast the main issue is not funds. It's the mismanagement of them. We need to have the culture of great team work. Build efficient institutions. Link to comment
MK55 Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 Lol it’s not just the pressure. After a while you should get immune to it. FFS you had the stadium cheering for you. It should instead work in your favor. What’s with this pressure non sense???? Theres a certain mindset you need to do well at the final stage. These guys don’t have that. As much as it’s about being relaxed, you gotta be able to step it up a notch and be focused on nothing else but the goal. Dint u guys see how guys like a Warner were fielding? Even Cummins was bowling a lot quicker than usual. You think that’s a coincidence??? Tactically they were brilliant too. They know when to pull up their socks. In contrast, a few wickets and these idiots totally went into their shell. And they way we started off with the ball?? The glove work behind the stumps?? Also, regardless of the conditions, like Cummins said in his interview even 300 was achievable and he was happy with anything below that. So these clowns should have adapted accordingly even after losing wickets. It’s difficult coz we also have some other chronic issues, like an awful quality of lower order batters. That makes it tough after 4 wickets down. someone, sensible-indian, Lord and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 24 minutes ago, MK55 said: Lol it’s not just the pressure. After a while you should get immune to it. FFS you had the stadium cheering for you. It should instead work in your favor. What’s with this pressure non sense???? Theres a certain mindset you need to do well at the final stage. These guys don’t have that. As much as it’s about being relaxed, you gotta be able to step it up a notch and be focused on nothing else but the goal. Dint u guys see how guys like a Warner were fielding? Even Cummins was bowling a lot quicker than usual. You think that’s a coincidence??? Tactically they were brilliant too. They know when to pull up their socks. In contrast, a few wickets and these idiots totally went into their shell. And they way we started off with the ball?? The glove work behind the stumps?? Also, regardless of the conditions, like Cummins said in his interview even 300 was achievable and he was happy with anything below that. So these clowns should have adapted accordingly even after losing wickets. It’s difficult coz we also have some other chronic issues, like an awful quality of lower order batters. That makes it tough after 4 wickets down. That extra bit between the teeth which you need to win these big matches is missing from our team over the past decade. Too much of a pattern/recurring theme there and we are left splitting hairs and picking it apart. MK55 and Ultimate_Game 2 Link to comment
LordPrabhzy Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 (edited) Till indian fans stop worshipping personal milestone BS, then team results will suffer. I would happily swap 100 ODI centuries of SRT and Kohli for 8 extra ICC WC trophies in our cabinet which we have missed out due to our choking. Thats the difference in a crazy Indian fan and a rational indian fan who has seen how sport is managed and executed in western countries in a professional way. Indian fans only care about star worshipping which makes these players believe they are above God and they do what the hell they like including BCCI which already takes the Indian fans as mugs because Indian fans have nothing better to do in their life so they line the BCCI and their buddies pockets with their 'passion' Laude ka passion. In a sport in which 3 countries are actually good and competitive, we still are 3rd in that lineup and cant win jack- doob maro tum salon Edited November 20 by LordPrabhzy raki05, team_india_lover2019 and sorak 2 1 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 (edited) ICFers have turned the site into RR site. Har ek thread mein rona dhone. Edited November 20 by coffee_rules raki05 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 36 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: ICFers have turned the site into RR site. Har ek thread mein rona dhone. ICT ne ICF ko R bana ke chor diya ……. Link to comment
nitinbwj Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 3 hours ago, MK55 said: Lol it’s not just the pressure. After a while you should get immune to it. FFS you had the stadium cheering for you. It should instead work in your favor. What’s with this pressure non sense???? Theres a certain mindset you need to do well at the final stage. These guys don’t have that. As much as it’s about being relaxed, you gotta be able to step it up a notch and be focused on nothing else but the goal. Dint u guys see how guys like a Warner were fielding? Even Cummins was bowling a lot quicker than usual. You think that’s a coincidence??? Tactically they were brilliant too. They know when to pull up their socks. In contrast, a few wickets and these idiots totally went into their shell. And they way we started off with the ball?? The glove work behind the stumps?? Also, regardless of the conditions, like Cummins said in his interview even 300 was achievable and he was happy with anything below that. So these clowns should have adapted accordingly even after losing wickets. It’s difficult coz we also have some other chronic issues, like an awful quality of lower order batters. That makes it tough after 4 wickets down. Had Ind scored 300,we would have won regardless of what Cummins say. They won from 47/3 as there was no scoreboard pressure. They could afford Labu's innings. Ultimate_Game 1 Link to comment
Serpico Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: ICFers have turned the site into RR site. Har ek thread mein rona dhone. What do you expect? Should we be celebrating this instead? Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 51 minutes ago, nitinbwj said: Had Ind scored 300,we would have won regardless of what Cummins say. They won from 47/3 as there was no scoreboard pressure. They could afford Labu's innings. Even 350 was not enough for the dew Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 8 hours ago, AuxiliA said: Australia has plenty of advantages in cricket/sports that we don't have. Their players have to cope with far lesser pressure than what our players have to. The are far far ahead of us on per Capita income and sports infrastructure available to common folks. They have much better physiques on average. 90 percent of our ancestors were illiterate and malnourished when we gained independence. They were already rich AF back then. Will take a few more generations to close this gap. The only advantage we have is our huge population. But that won't do us much good unless we improve on per capita terms, because sports is about quality not quantity. It's still 11 vs 11 on the playing field and not 1.4B vs 25M. Argument is pretty solid when it comes to competing in Olympics... Nobody in their right mind can compare Australia with India. A Australian kid is born with so many advantages & it isn't a level playing field with a kid from poor subcontinent. However India is cricket mad country.... The XI we fielded y'day might not compete with fitness & physique thanks to genetic & diet factors but it was damn well skilled & talented to bridge or even overcome the gap. It's just that killer instinct is missing. A right coach, right TM & capable cricket board could have done the trick. Resources in cricket at our disposal surely outmatch every other team. Aussies do dominate other subcontinent side with a lot more ease than they do with INDIA coz of this factor only. Other Subcontinent teams don't have enough resources & they roll over frequently in front of goras in ICC events or pressure games. Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 22 minutes ago, Serpico said: What do you expect? Should we be celebrating this instead? we just lost a Final that we reached after 12 years, look at positives aur patthar pe maata phodna band karo Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 Of all the stadium they expanded this one and made sure no other stadium will host any important event. Giant Anda in the final lol. Wankhede, Eden Gardens would have been fantastic. They dumped Mohali too. Sgattick10 1 Link to comment
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