LordPrabhzy Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nash said: No. we have to make better team which has better skill to play on WI/SA /AUS or whatever place it is. India has resources to make similar kind of pitches of Eng or SA at home. Make it play it. BCCI has no planning. PRIVATIZE BCCI with MINIMUM influent from Gov. Gov should only intervience when maulavi's want to play cricket. oterh than that privatize BCCI is the option. BCCI is a private body.. Link to comment
Nash Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said: BCCI is a private body.. is it? lol I really didn't know. I thought it is run by government appointed heads. In that case, BCCI needs to plan better and have some good heads on bench. Link to comment
LordPrabhzy Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nash said: is it? lol I really didn't know. I thought it is run by government appointed heads. In that case, BCCI needs to plan better and have some good heads on bench. Its not accountable to the Indian gov... many politicians get involved wit BCCI but its to line their pockets and exert influence but Team 'India' in reality is not the Indian team but a team put on field contracted to a private firm using the name 'India'. rollingstoned and Nash 2 Link to comment
vivek04 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 keeping in mind wc 27:- 1. sack dravid 2. goodbye to seniors like kohli, rohit, rahul, sky, iyer(not have enough quality on bouncier pitches), shami 3. inject 3-4 all-rounders like pandya, who bowls pace 4. prepare green bouncier pitches 5. mental conditioning to cope pressure situations 6. playing attacking cricket no matter the situation it would fail sometimes but have high rewards in pressure situations (eng, australia did this) 7. selections based on overall performance in ipl, ranji, other first class competitions, etc. 8. no more unknown coaches, select from the best available. 9. individual performance should be the last priority and if any one plays for that he should be booted out tapandrun, Nash and Khota 1 2 Link to comment
tapandrun Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) Team's core needs to be change- These guys now have played 2 T20 and 2 50 over WC and now Ind needs to find different set of player. Different teams for different format - Do not confuse the performance between different formats and not to try to make a player all format player, this idea is getting old In new set-up Ind should bat till no.8 batters have to bowl and bowler have to bat, off-spinner has to be proper batter. Need at-least 2 proper allrounders. Player with winning mentality should be promoted, batters needs to play modern day shots. No recycling of older players. Induct proper 140+ kmph/bowlers. Need to find a proper wkt keeper batter Need to find left handed batters. Edited November 20, 2023 by tapandrun vivek04 1 Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 For ODIs: - Hardik Pandya shouldn't be in ODI team. - Bring in Pant and groom him for leadership. - Time to look beyond stats and cheap runs. Next WC is in SA, choose players who can play in such conditions. - Stay away from Chahal in all of the cases. - Move away from Kohli and Rohit for ODIs. Maybe CT trophy would be the last of them. Khota 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Number said: Jadeja should never bat in top 7 in ODI/T20s. Either we find his replacement who can bat in top 7 like Abhishek Sharma/Riyan Parag. Or he bats at 8. He should be forced to retire from lois Enough of his 15 years loi fraud Link to comment
Teengunalagaan Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) There is nothing wrong with the team, this is the same team with which we dominated the tournament and won 10 matches on the trot. Where we lost the match is the mindset, we tried tampering with the pitch and that backfired. All we needed was to have a half decent pitch like Wankhede in the SF, and we should have won, even if not win, wouldn't have lost so badly, but they were so scared of losing the final, that they would go to any length to make sure that doesn't happen and in the end you end effing things up because you become overly cautious and end up overcooking everything. This match was lost when Australia won the toss and decided to bowl first, hard to blame the players in the middle when the pitch is two paced, spinning and reversing, it was like a 5th day wicket, and in the night it completely flattened out after 10 overs. No matter how good you are, you are not winning with this kind of imbalance. our batting and bowling were both better, and they have shown that on good surfaces, but having a pitch like this you reduce that gap and allow the opposition in the game, in this case it was worse, it was a lottery with the toss. Need to learn from history, whenever teams try to tamper the pitch it more or less backfires, eg : 2006 Jo'bur test SA v IND. What's needed is to trust your players capability, if they can defeat every team in league then they can surely do it the finals but you tempered with the pitch and it backfired real bad. More than the players first this mindset needs to change from the management or whoever in BCCI decides to make such shitty decisions. Edited November 20, 2023 by Teengunalagaan Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Play more tri series or quad series to prepare for finals.Bilateral dont help us to prepare for sf,finals. Need4Speed and Cricketics 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Start with removing Manjrekar from all commentary assignments for India. lol Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 32 minutes ago, Teengunalagaan said: There is nothing wrong with the team, this is the same team with which we dominated the tournament and won 10 matches on the trot. Where we lost the match is the mindset, we tried tampering with the pitch and that backfired. All we needed was to have a half decent pitch like Wankhede in the SF, and we should have won, even if not win, wouldn't have lost so badly, but they were so scared of losing the final, that they would go to any length to make sure that doesn't happen and in the end you end effing things up because you become overly cautious and end up overcooking everything. This match was lost when Australia won the toss and decided to bowl first, hard to blame the players in the middle when the pitch is two paced, spinning and reversing, it was like a 5th day wicket, and in the night it completely flattened out after 10 overs. No matter how good you are, you are not winning with this kind of imbalance. our batting and bowling were both better, and they have shown that on good surfaces, but having a pitch like this you reduce that gap and allow the opposition in the game, in this case it was worse, it was a lottery with the toss. Need to learn from history, whenever teams try to tamper the pitch it more or less backfires, eg : 2006 Jo'bur test SA v IND. What's needed is to trust your players capability, if they can defeat every team in league then they can surely do it the finals but you tempered with the pitch and it backfired real bad. More than the players first this mindset needs to change from the management or whoever in BCCI decides to make such shitty decisions. How many players who are in mid to late 30s now, will play after 4 years from now ? Half the team members need replacement by 2027. Link to comment
The Realist Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Pick more trundlers Appoint Laxman as coach See new T20 squad v Aus. Job done. maniac 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 33 minutes ago, Teengunalagaan said: There is nothing wrong with the team, this is the same team with which we dominated the tournament and won 10 matches on the trot. Where we lost the match is the mindset, we tried tampering with the pitch and that backfired. All we needed was to have a half decent pitch like Wankhede in the SF, and we should have won, even if not win, wouldn't have lost so badly, but they were so scared of losing the final, that they would go to any length to make sure that doesn't happen and in the end you end effing things up because you become overly cautious and end up overcooking everything. This match was lost when Australia won the toss and decided to bowl first, hard to blame the players in the middle when the pitch is two paced, spinning and reversing, it was like a 5th day wicket, and in the night it completely flattened out after 10 overs. No matter how good you are, you are not winning with this kind of imbalance. our batting and bowling were both better, and they have shown that on good surfaces, but having a pitch like this you reduce that gap and allow the opposition in the game, in this case it was worse, it was a lottery with the toss. Need to learn from history, whenever teams try to tamper the pitch it more or less backfires, eg : 2006 Jo'bur test SA v IND. What's needed is to trust your players capability, if they can defeat every team in league then they can surely do it the finals but you tempered with the pitch and it backfired real bad. More than the players first this mindset needs to change from the management or whoever in BCCI decides to make such shitty decisions. Over the last 3 WCs, India's record is 25-3, i.e. won 25 and lost 3. This record is better than any other team across the WCs, and if you share these stats with people they would assume India is winning everything. But they have 0 trophies to show for it. Can you imagine a record of 25-3 and still no trophies. That's the problem with the team. And if you include the T20 WC and CT performances over the last decade, this pattern gets worse. One time can be luck, twice coincidence but when it happens everytime over a decade, the problem lies with the team, including BCCI. Link to comment
Khota Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Serpico said: Australia did analytics which is why they picked all-rounders Australia has a small pool. They picked their most experienced players. Link to comment
Khota Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 5 hours ago, R!TTER said: Analytics only gets you so far, if you depend on it too much you're too dope to win anything any way! It is not end all, but lets you make better, more informed decisions. Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 you can keep suggesting all this..and now see the pace bowlers they selected for T20s against Aussies.. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 India getting to final or semi final is not an issue here. India somehow can reach. But how do you go past that hurdle. That is what they have to address. Pull out all the matches and see where we went wrong. Do a pattern analysis. And see how we can address it. It cannot be a coincidence that we repeatedly falter in crunch games. Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: India getting to final or semi final is not an issue here. India somehow can reach. But how do you go past that hurdle. That is what they have to address. Pull out all the matches and see where we went wrong. Do a pattern analysis. And see how we can address it. It cannot be a coincidence that we repeatedly falter in crunch games. Pattern is that the batting hasn't shown up in each and everyone of them. Across formats, our batting has disappointed everytime and we never addressed it by carrying the same set of core players who rack up runs in group stages and then disappear. The other pattern is our lack of depth while batting which has been shown everytime and yet we have 5 no. 11s in our team with SKY as the glorified tailender in odis. We simply haven't changed anything. All our wins in tourneys when we had likes of Raina batting at 7, or Binny, Madan Lal, Kirmani batting at 8, 9 and 10. We're so poor that Pat Cummins can bat at no. 6 in our team! Despite these patterns precious little has changed and Dravid actually made it worse by bringing in a proven failure in Odis in SKY instead of more proven players in the format such as Rinku, or even Jaiswal. Link to comment
Khota Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 I am also very tired of Anushka Sharma and Sara bhenji. They need to quit panning the cameras to those attention grabbers. If those two-want publicity they can both pose in an adult magazine, and I will gladly buy it if there is enough flesh shown. Link to comment
DeepSpace Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Build robots and have them play for India. Bewda to install AI in them. Link to comment
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