Jaydev_Unadkat Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 (edited) 9 hours ago, Sandz said: You have this the wrong way. When the Indian team was filled with medium pace trundlers, it was utterly spinless, a jelly fish had more backbone. It only changed when 140+ bowlers like Bumrah, Shami, Ishant, Yadav and Siraj came on the scene and grew a backbone. we won our last test series in England in 2007 with Zaheer and RP Our aussie series win came on the back of Shardul Natarajan and siraj who is DEFNTLY NOT an express bowler. So tell me how many series did these backbone win you ?? Nz?? Eng?? Sa?? Aus??? we all saw the crap they dished out in nz last time. Even in 2003 we drew in Aus with ajit agarkar taking a 6fer Are you really implying we should pick the 46 avgng umran malik, cant make it to local team tyagi and over hyped harshit rana instead of a , mukesh kumar? Edited January 5 by Jaydev_Unadkat Link to comment
Jaydev_Unadkat Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 Two 5-fers in hus debut series for Medium Pacer Amer Jamal. Destroying yet another myth that only express pacers can succeed in Australia harpicP and The Hound 2 Link to comment
Frustrated Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 9 minutes ago, Jaydev_Unadkat said: Two 5-fers in hus debut series for Medium Pacer Amer Jamal. Destroying yet another myth that only express pacers can succeed in Australia There is a difference. Jamal has been consistently bowling at 136-138 kmph. That's much higher than Mukesh who bowled at 130-132 throughout the 2nd test. Sandz and express bowling 2 Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, Jaydev_Unadkat said: we won our last test series in England in 2007 with Zaheer and RP Our aussie series win came on the back of Shardul Natarajan and siraj who is DEFNTLY NOT an express bowler. So tell me how many series did these backbone win you ?? Nz?? Eng?? Sa?? Aus??? we all saw the crap they dished out in nz last time. Even in 2003 we drew in Aus with ajit agarkar taking a 6fer Having left arm seamer even if they are not express like Zak or RP is completely different.Other than Akram you don't find lot of express left arm bowlers Akram too was medium pace for most part. That 2007-08 bowling of Sreesanth, Ishant, Zak and RP singh was very very good bowling attack. Pity their captains never understood their importance of their development. harpicP and Jaydev_Unadkat 2 Link to comment
harpicP Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, Jaydev_Unadkat said: Two 5-fers in hus debut series for Medium Pacer Amer Jamal. Destroying yet another myth that only express pacers can succeed in Australia His batting too was impressive. Wish we had an AR like him. Link to comment
The Hound Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 You should open the bowling with Mukesh in England test series Jaydev bhai. Jaydev_Unadkat 1 Link to comment
Jaydev_Unadkat Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 On 1/5/2024 at 6:00 PM, Frustrated said: There is a difference. Jamal has been consistently bowling at 136-138 kmph. That's much higher than Mukesh who bowled at 130-132 throughout the 2nd test. I am not a Mukesh fan boy. You dont have to bring him up all the time while replying to him. I respect all the medium pacers who toil hard Link to comment
Jaydev_Unadkat Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 Looking forward to Arshdeep developing further and becoming India's main man in this format Link to comment
Jaydev_Unadkat Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 On 1/5/2024 at 6:31 PM, putrevus said: Having left arm seamer even if they are not express like Zak or RP is completely different.Other than Akram you don't find lot of express left arm bowlers Akram too was medium pace for most part. That 2007-08 bowling of Sreesanth, Ishant, Zak and RP singh was very very good bowling attack. Pity their captains never understood their importance of their development. They were really good. And none of them were 150 kph phaaast bowlers. Link to comment
harpicP Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 15 hours ago, Jaydev_Unadkat said: They were really good. And none of them were 150 kph phaaast bowlers. Very underrated bowling attack. We won 2 icc titles because of them. They were misused in tests Would easily be top 2/3 in LOI now. In tests top 3/4 depending on conditions Edited January 8 by harpicP Jaydev_Unadkat 1 Link to comment
harpicP Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 15 hours ago, Jaydev_Unadkat said: Looking forward to Arshdeep developing further and becoming India's main man in this format And he can bat too avesh also deserves a chance Jaydev_Unadkat 1 Link to comment
Jaydev_Unadkat Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 I would pick an attack of Mcgrath, Pollock, Anderson over Akhtar, Shaun Tait and Nanty Hayward any day. Infact I would pick Mcgrath and Pollock over literally anyone putrevus and harpicP 2 Link to comment
harpicP Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Jaydev_Unadkat said: I would pick an attack of Mcgrath, Pollock, Anderson over Akhtar, Shaun Tait and Nanty Hayward any day. Infact I would pick Mcgrath and Pollock over literally anyone Not a fan of Pollock but yea. I would pick mcgrath and Ambrose instead. Or donald. Modern times would pick Cummins and bumrah or rabada. Yea Anderson and pollock>>>>>>>> Hayward, Tait. Akthar though was quality imo. Edited January 8 by harpicP Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) On 1/7/2024 at 9:25 AM, Jaydev_Unadkat said: They were really good. And none of them were 150 kph phaaast bowlers. How many 150 Kph fast do we really have in our history? Forgeting all their weaknesses and lack of accuracy,how many 150 k bowlers do we really have? I have seen lot of hype on here for bowlers who can touch 140 on occasions. Edited January 9 by putrevus Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) my personal preference is 140-145k well heighted and accurate pacer..who is smart and understands match situations and pitch\ground conditions and execute plans.. more pace is always a bonus.. Edited January 9 by Need4Speed tapandrun and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Jaydev_Unadkat Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 Mukesh 2 wickets 33 runs...another fine performance Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Jaydev_Unadkat said: Mukesh 2 wickets 33 runs...another fine performance Mukesh has done decently but I want him to be more tighter due to the pace he bowls and loads of doemstic experience he has..so I expect more from him With T20Is..even medium pacer can do good but one needs to be very smart with his variations and very tight.. Jaydev_Unadkat 1 Link to comment
harpicP Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 9 hours ago, Jaydev_Unadkat said: Mukesh 2 wickets 33 runs...another fine performance Just needs to keep it tight. If he can do it yes he can play. Jaydev_Unadkat 1 Link to comment
Jaydev_Unadkat Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 Great to se Mukesh getting rewarded for his outstanding work. Will be a treat to watch against Eng if he gets picked. Not a fan of Avesh though harpicP 1 Link to comment
Jaydev_Unadkat Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 All the socalled phaaaast bowling club level bowlers are back where they belong — trash can As I said before - guys like Umran, Prasidh, Kuldeep sen are not even state level bowlers and they will never play 10 test games for India. Link to comment
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