Ram Mandir and politics

[coffee_rules]

On 1/14/2024 at 12:54 PM, Singh bling said:

 

Even shankaracharya's are not spared  by online trolls of BJP.  Shankaracharya's are new entry in club of anti Hindu and anti nationals. 

Just watched   the video, Abhisar Dalla is more idiotic than The Deshbhakt or Dhruv Rathee, saala Chinese agent. Should not react to his opinions, responding to you if your concerns are genuine. 

Shankaracharyas are shaivites, they don’t have monopoly over a vaishnavite belief system like ke Ram bhakti. They were expecting that people would lay red carpet to them when they didn’t have any support to the RJB movement. The prana prathistha will happen with or without their blessing.

 

2 Shankaracharyas of the south (Kanchi and Sringeri) have blessed the event. The Puri Shankaracharya is not very popular, he had said some controversial statements about casteism and inter-caste marriages. Now, that he opposed Modi, he’s a darling and revered by Congressis. 

Edited January 15, 2024 by coffee_rules

[Lannister]

16 hours ago, gattaca said:

Religious neutrality shouldn’t be abusing Hindu religion. Nehru hated Hindu religion and so did congress for 60 years and still do. So does all the left secular parties in India. I clearly stated what bjp did. They did nothing for Hindus but they didn’t bad mouth Hindu religion and culture. In fact they did more for Muslims by banning triple talaq which congress should have done in 90s but for appeasement they did nothing. Congress is about appeasing Muslims bjp is about respecting all religions not hard choice to choose from.

I am not sure about the abuse, but we should all mock religions and its tripe. In a democratic society, the notion of blasphemy doesn't hold.

[gattaca]

57 minutes ago, Lannister said:

I am not sure about the abuse, but we should all mock religions and its tripe. In a democratic society, the notion of blasphemy doesn't hold.

No. It is wrong one should respect all religions. If you are atheist doesn’t mean you don’t respect other religions. Congress leaders not only mocked Hindus but were wearing skull caps and taking pictures during their festivals and they created reservations for Muslims which is stupid. Muslims ruled India for so many years and imposed jigiya for being a Hindu and they gave them reservations. This is not only appeasement for Muslims but oppression of Hindus.  I really hope Congress in India dies completely. 

[Lannister]

2 hours ago, gattaca said:

No. It is wrong one should respect all religions. If you are atheist doesn’t mean you don’t respect other religions.

That's not how it works. If you compel us to respect your views, we can do the same thing to you. We can also ensure that you respect our views using similar tactics and the legal system. What then? 

[Lannister]

2 hours ago, gattaca said:

Congress leaders not only mocked Hindus but were wearing skull caps and taking pictures during their festivals and they created reservations for Muslims which is stupid. Muslims ruled India for so many years and imposed jigiya for being a Hindu and they gave them reservations. This is not only appeasement for Muslims but oppression of Hindus.  I really hope Congress in India dies completely. 

What has the BJP been doing over the past decade? Obviously, it's absurd to provide reservations based on religious beliefs. Where is my reservation for being an atheist? After all, we too belong to the minority.

[coffee_rules]

4 hours ago, Lannister said:

What has the BJP been doing over the past decade? Obviously, it's absurd to provide reservations based on religious beliefs. Where is my reservation for being an atheist? After all, we too belong to the minority.

Reservations are not for minorities, but for those who were discriminated in the mainstream for generations and are backward socially and economically. Atheists are thriving rich folk, having too much richness and nothing else to do bored of their lives, want to meddle with others’ business. 

[coffee_rules]

18 hours ago, Lannister said:

That's not how it works. If you compel us to respect your views, we can do the same thing to you. We can also ensure that you respect our views using similar tactics and the legal system. What then? 

You should read more. Hinduism is the only religion to not have blasphemy. You are not killed for not believing in Ishwar. There is no word for blasphemy in Sanskrit. Carvaka denounced Vedas and is still a maharshi. We still believe you are a Hindu or whatever you were born into. You are inspired by an irrational western thought of atheism to believe all religions are same and bad. 

[Lannister]

14 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Reservations are not for minorities, but for those who were discriminated in the mainstream for generations and are backward socially and economically. Atheists are thriving rich folk, having too much richness and nothing else to do bored of their lives, want to meddle with others’ business. 

Indeed, atheists are rich in morality. I am specifically referring to reservations granted on religious grounds.

 

[Lannister]

52 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

You should read more. Hinduism is the only religion to not have blasphemy. You are not killed for not believing in Ishwar. There is no word for blasphemy in Sanskrit. Carvaka denounced Vedas and is still a maharshi. We still believe you are a Hindu or whatever you were born into. You are inspired by an irrational western thought of atheism to believe all religions are same and bad. 

The perceived tolerance in Hinduism largely stems from our existence in a democratic society. Instances like the murders of Gowri and others serve as a reminder that this religion can be just as problematic as Islam.
 

[coffee_rules]

9 hours ago, Lannister said:

Indeed, atheists are rich in morality. I am specifically referring to reservations granted on religious grounds.

 

There is no reservations based on religious ground. Muslims were given reservation in the OBC category (backward class). You guys are filthy rich. 

[coffee_rules]

9 hours ago, Lannister said:

The perceived tolerance in Hinduism largely stems from our existence in a democratic society. Instances like the murders of Gowri and others serve as a reminder that this religion can be just as problematic as Islam.
 

We chose democray because we were hindus in majority. Otherwise, we would be an Islamic/Hindu Republic. Outliers happen , even in advanced world. America chose Democray in 1774, but were allowing slavery, had issues with civil rights even in 2020 *George Floyd/BLM etc). So, there are problems in every society, Besides, Gowri murder has indicments and charge-sheets and even arrests. Nothing is proven in court yet, no conviction to proclaim Hindu RWers killed her.  NIA recently arrested a commie who chopped the palms of a Hindu teacher.  No arrests were made when sadhus were lynched in Palghar. Even this week, Sadhus were publicly flogged naked in WB, No arrest yet. Nobody is going to protest if Gowri murder has culprts nabbed.

[Singh bling]

11 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

You should read more. Hinduism is the only religion to not have blasphemy. You are not killed for not believing in Ishwar. There is no word for blasphemy in Sanskrit. Carvaka denounced Vedas and is still a maharshi. We still believe you are a Hindu or whatever you were born into. You are inspired by an irrational western thought of atheism to believe all religions are same and bad. 

You are not killed for blasphemy but you are definitely killed even if you accidentally hit a cow and she die. Even hindu dalits who use to skin dead cows are not spared from attack. 

[coffee_rules]

41 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

You are not killed for blasphemy but you are definitely killed even if you accidentally hit a cow and she die. Even hindu dalits who use to skin dead cows are not spared from attack. 

You run the risk if you accidently kill any livestock in India, it comes from a law and order situation and not from a Hindu scripture/teaching. At the same time, look at the increase in the number of cow smugglers and thieves, illegal slaughter houses. The cow lynching is a direct result of people losing their livelihood in villages. 

[Lone Wolf]

2 hours ago, Singh bling said:

You are not killed for blasphemy but you are definitely killed even if you accidentally hit a cow and she die. Even hindu dalits who use to skin dead cows are not spared from attack. 

Nah perfectly fine...  Happens in Kerala,  North East,  JK where there is decent Hindu population. 

Ofc in regions where there are protective laws there will be action. 

 

Hinduism is perhaps most appealing religion...  You are free not to worship & still be a Hindu,  no need for fasting,  eat whatever you like (ex beef) ..  Unreal flexibility.  Those who want it to be hardcore have no idea that its flexibility is its biggest advantage & has survived test of times.  

 

Sikhism has little more restrictions I'd say but is more appealing than Jainism,  Buddhism anyday of the week. 

 

Edited January 16, 2024 by Lone Wolf

[Lannister]

14 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

There is no reservations based on religious ground. Muslims were given reservation in the OBC category (backward class). You guys are filthy rich. 

The rich don't give a **** about these matters. They get reservations solely due to their association with a religious group, and this includes Jains, Christians. 

[Lannister]

14 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

We chose democray because we were hindus in majority. Otherwise, we would be an Islamic/Hindu Republic. Outliers happen , even in advanced world. America chose Democray in 1774, but were allowing slavery, had issues with civil rights even in 2020 *George Floyd/BLM etc). So, there are problems in every society, Besides, Gowri murder has indicments and charge-sheets and even arrests. Nothing is proven in court yet, no conviction to proclaim Hindu RWers killed her.  NIA recently arrested a commie who chopped the palms of a Hindu teacher.  No arrests were made when sadhus were lynched in Palghar. Even this week, Sadhus were publicly flogged naked in WB, No arrest yet. Nobody is going to protest if Gowri murder has culprts nabbed.

Our choice of democracy wasn't driven by Hindu identity but by our identity as Dalits, Kurubas, Vokkaligas, Lingayats. There's a notable distinction.

[diga]

5 hours ago, Lannister said:

Our choice of democracy wasn't driven by Hindu identity but by our identity as Dalits, Kurubas, Vokkaligas, Lingayats. There's a notable distinction.

Jinnah / Muslim league vs the rest was driven by ...............  identity.  

[Singh bling]

18 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

You run the risk if you accidently kill any livestock in India, it comes from a law and order situation and not from a Hindu scripture/teaching. At the same time, look at the increase in the number of cow smugglers and thieves, illegal slaughter houses. The cow lynching is a direct result of people losing their livelihood in villages. 

So cows on road stolen cause people to livelihood? Stop this joke. most cattle that is smuggled is useless . Infact cattle itself is making farmers loose crops

 

https://www.newsclick.in/stray-cattle-posing-threat-farmers-amid-nail-biting-cold-one-dead

 

 

[Singh bling]

16 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Nah perfectly fine...  Happens in Kerala,  North East,  JK where there is decent Hindu population. 

Ofc in regions where there are protective laws there will be action. 

 

Hinduism is perhaps most appealing religion...  You are free not to worship & still be a Hindu,  no need for fasting,  eat whatever you like (ex beef) ..  Unreal flexibility.  Those who want it to be hardcore have no idea that its flexibility is its biggest advantage & has survived test of times.  

 

Sikhism has little more restrictions I'd say but is more appealing than Jainism,  Buddhism anyday of the week. 

 

After the grand success of Christianity and islam many religions try to copy them. Sikhism itself has many islamic components . The only problem is unlike hindu's and muslims sikhs dont have that kind of population plus majority of sikhs themselves don't want to follow strict sikhism. 

[diga]

On 1/13/2024 at 3:02 PM, Lannister said:

I think the decision of Congress, a liberal Hindu party, to refrain from participating in this religious ceremony is seen as a notable shift in Indian politics. It required a decade under Modi's governance for them to comprehend the true meaning of secularism.

normalizing Congress as liberal Hindu party by a kangressi ...  

If at all , Congress is anti-Hindu