First class Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 Not ready for test IMO, has a good action but lacks pace and skill of a good 4th bowler . But he is young , can improve his bowling and only then he can be a regular batting allrounder in tests for India. At the moment his batting is better than his bowling . Link to comment
Lord Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, First class said: Not ready for test IMO, has a good action but lacks pace and skill of a good 4th bowler . But he is young , can improve his bowling and only then he can be a regular batting allrounder in tests for India. At the moment his batting is better than his bowling . yeah batting too low. Pace is okay for a 4th pacer but more suited to SEN conditions Link to comment
Serpico Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 Maybe he'll get to bowl at top order during fourth innings. He can be a decent channel bowler who can nick the batsmen when they're playing shots, not fast enough to get through the defence Link to comment
lemsip Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 For those criticising his pace, he was still bowling 7-10ks faster than the Aussie 4th bowler Mitchell Marsh. I think he has SENA potential as a 4th seamer/batsman but also thing he will be handy in England. I view him as Shardul 2.0 with a batting upgrade on the original. Adamant, BacktoCricaddict and raki05 3 Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 I didn't think he was ready for the big stage with his batting, but he showed me why I am a keyboard selector :-) Of all his qualities (athletic ability, fearlessness, 360-shot-making ability, and decent bowling), the thing that stands out is his tremendous bat-speed. singhvivek141, raki05 and Adamant 3 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 42 minutes ago, lemsip said: For those criticising his pace, he was still bowling 7-10ks faster than the Aussie 4th bowler Mitchell Marsh. I think he has SENA potential as a 4th seamer/batsman but also thing he will be handy in England. I view him as Shardul 2.0 with a batting upgrade on the original. Nitish needs some competiton, Pandya ji has given up on Tests and ODI's. So Raj Bawa also should be looked at now. Batting has improved, bowling wise I feel he is quicker than Nitish..so can be a like of like replacement in case Nitish get any injury or loses form badly. Plus we can in an hypothetical scenario play 2 pace bowling allrounders plus 3 fast bowlers as well. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 HIs bowling was a joke. He is strongly built. He can increase his pace with practice and add one or two skills. Venky Iyer, Vijay shankar, Dube. - mixture of them. singhvivek141 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 1 hour ago, First class said: Not ready for test IMO, has a good action but lacks pace and skill of a good 4th bowler . But he is young , can improve his bowling and only then he can be a regular batting allrounder in tests for India. At the moment his batting is better than his bowling . There are very rare allrounders who are equally exceptional in both skills. As long as the stong skill is solid and secondary skill is serviceable for most conditions, things will be fine. Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: HIs bowling was a joke. He is strongly built. He can increase his pace with practice and add one or two skills. Venky Iyer, Vijay shankar, Dube. - mixture of them. Right now, I see his role as a change-bowler to give the main guys a breather, and sneak in a breakthrough if the batsmen get complacent and try to hit out against him. Link to comment
Lord Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 56 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: HIs bowling was a joke. He is strongly built. He can increase his pace with practice and add one or two skills. Venky Iyer, Vijay shankar, Dube. - mixture of them. More than pace we need him to be accurate to give control. Will bring wickets in SEN too Ultimate_Game 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 21 minutes ago, Lord said: More than pace we need him to be accurate to give control. Will bring wickets in SEN too He has no control either. He is not going to become an express bowler. So he has to become a skill based bowler. Asitha Fernando is not an express pacer. But bowls impeccable channels and extract movement. Lord 1 Link to comment
lemsip Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 (edited) 24 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: He has no control either He has bowled 3 overs in his career so far and gave just 4 runs. How have you managed to conclude from this that he lacks control ? A lot of you don't understand the concept of a 4th seamer which is the role he is doing. He is expected to bowl at most 10-15 overs in a full innings ( 5-10 in shorter games like this one) and keeps things tight enough so that the main bowlers can rest and rotate. If he can pick up the odd wicket that's a bonus. He is perfectly well suited for this role overseas on the evidence so far. Plus his batting is more than adequate. Edited November 23, 2024 by lemsip Link to comment
Adamant Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 I will say that he has tremendous potential with the bat, bowling wise he is not at the same level as Shardul of 2020 but can get there if he can develop some skills. Shardul could move the ball as much as anyone in that team. raki05 1 Link to comment
lemsip Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 13 minutes ago, Adamant said: I will say that he has tremendous potential with the bat, bowling wise he is not at the same level as Shardul of 2020 but can get there if he can develop some skills. Shardul could move the ball as much as anyone in that team. Bear in mind Nitish is just 21. He has a lot of potential and given opportunity can develop into a handy all round cricketer especially overseas. if you look at some of his clips from his first class career, it is clear he knows how to move the ball and trouble players. Obviously international cricket is a step up but the potential is clearly there. Adamant and express bowling 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 (edited) His batting has surpassed my expectations. Has a solid defense against pace and we know that he can attack. Handled extra bounce quite decently. His bowling was ok after the first over. He is a very accurate pacer and swings the ball. A little more deck hitting ability is what he needs. Morkel should work on this aspect. Edited November 23, 2024 by express bowling lemsip 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 35 minutes ago, lemsip said: Bear in mind Nitish is just 21. He has a lot of potential and given opportunity can develop into a handy all round cricketer especially overseas. if you look at some of his clips from his first class career, it is clear he knows how to move the ball and trouble players. Obviously international cricket is a step up but the potential is clearly there. Saw in Duleep Trophy that he is a very good and accurate channel bowler if there is swing on offer. What he needs to learn is hitting the deck and seaming and bouncing the ball when there is no swing. Time and talent are on his side. lemsip and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Lord Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 1 hour ago, lemsip said: Bear in mind Nitish is just 21. He has a lot of potential and given opportunity can develop into a handy all round cricketer especially overseas. if you look at some of his clips from his first class career, it is clear he knows how to move the ball and trouble players. Obviously international cricket is a step up but the potential is clearly there. Can be very useful in SEN and WI. Especially if he gains acciracy Link to comment
Lord Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 40 minutes ago, express bowling said: His batting has surpassed my expectations. Has a solid defense against pace and we know that he can attack. Handled extra bounce quite decently. His bowling was ok after the first over. He is a very accurate pacer and swings the ball. A little more deck hitting ability is what he needs. Morkel should work on this aspect. He doesnt seem fast or tall for HTD bowling Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 7 minutes ago, Lord said: He doesnt seem fast or tall for HTD bowling Neil Wagner was neither fast nor tall. And I am not talking about sustained hit the deck bowling but having that delivery as one of the weapons. Mosher and Lord 1 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 8 minutes ago, express bowling said: Neil Wagner was neither fast nor tall. And I am not talking about sustained hit the deck bowling but having that delivery as one of the weapons. Wagner was strongly built though. Reddy is lean I'm sure he can already hit the deck somewhat like what Labu was doing today. His main job is controlling an end. Link to comment
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