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Ajit Agarkar one-man army behind Dhruv Jurel and Devdutt Padikkal's selections; will have last word in T20 WC squad

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Vijy Grand Master

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9 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

That's fine, he can pick and choose the series as per his convenience. Verbally though Kohli has told that Tests are his priority, and I would like him to honour that.

would be better if he plays most of them, or opts out of most of them

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putrevus Grand Master

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9 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

This T20 WC, we need Jaiswal & Rinku for sure in batting, both play spin well and hit big shots. Spin is going to be a key in WI.

 

For Pandya, he struggles vs hard length. But his hitting ability is still there against spin and full deliveries, plus his bowling is way better that other "allrounders" like Dube, Shardul etc. Jadeja is anyway of no use in T20.

 

Kuldeep still hasn't played enough games so far. It was his first WC and he bowled very well in most of games. His performance is on an upword trajectory. If we will become so strict with failures then even Ashwin flopped in 2016 semifinal & 2017 CT final, still we are persisting with him.

We need a fast starter at the top and a finisher who can go from ball one. These are the two main weaknesses which has hurt India in last decade in t20 and also odis.

 

I don't think Pandya ever was a finisher in classic style plus his SR in WI 2022 was 114 and in 2023 was 110. We don't need this guy.

 

Ashwin and Jadeja were kicked in 2017 only to brought back due to feeble batting by bowlers and allrounders.Both of them are not needed in whiteball cricket but redball they still have lot of life.

 

Kuldeep had a golden chance to cement his legacy on Indian pitches and against SENA teams in world cup  but he stunk no two ways about it. That is why I would not hand over sole spinner spot in redball cricket to Kuldeep yet.

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9 hours ago, rollingstoned said:

We have Agarkar to thank that they did not recall Pujara mid series after it was confirmed that Rahul will not play, Dravid and TM wanted it for experiences sake and he was making runs for Saurashtra. 

you need to credit Agarkar for that move. I however am not happy with step back of going to Rohit for T20WC. 

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21 minutes ago, Gollum said:

So Rovid wanted Pujara back. And wanted to give Bharat more chances.

 

Sackable offence IMO. Future of Indian cricket can't be entrusted upon these two clueless, compromised clowns. 

 

Under this team management our friend is injury. NOthing else.

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1 hour ago, rollingstoned said:

Once pandya got injured there is no other choice, wouldn't be too hard on him for that. 

Should have moved forward with Burmah. Should have done what he did in test, throw in a young team lets see how they perform. Rohit, Virat aren't winning us anything.  

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Rohit has done everyting possible in odis to win atleast one world cup.While Kohli has done very well in both formats, they both deserved to win multiple trophies.

 

Unfortunately they have been saddled with useless bozos who never could help them for decade.If they failed Indian team is destined for a loss.

 

No player including Sachin ever had to carry this load.Sachin had luxury of walking off as winner even when he got out cheaply.

 

Dhoni was carried by other team members to multiple trophies. 

 

These two guys never had that luxury.Most unfortunate guys who have been saddled with utterly useless supporting cast.

 

What can they win when they had an ace bowler who cracks under even slightest pressure.

 

Useless Dravid has not helped them one bit.

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13 hours ago, putrevus said:

Rohit has done everyting possible in odis to win atleast one world cup.While Kohli has done very well in both formats, they both deserved to win multiple trophies.

 

Unfortunately they have been saddled with useless bozos who never could help them for decade.If they failed Indian team is destined for a loss.

I go back to our last ICC win. CT 2013. Dhoni was the only senior in team rest were all 25 and under all eager to perform and we won. 

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Vijy Grand Master

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12 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

I go back to our last ICC win. CT 2013. Dhoni was the only senior in team rest were all 25 and under all eager to perform and we won. 

it's been 11 yr since then. feels like it will be another 5-10 yr

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15 hours ago, putrevus said:

No player including Sachin ever had to carry this load.Sachin had luxury of walking off as winner even when he got out cheaply.

 

Dhoni was carried by other team members to multiple trophies. 

Sachin was let down by team many a times. Most notably the semifinal in 1996 vs SL. The win came in 2011 and thankfully the tourney was in India. Even in tests during the bitter rivalry with Pak came the Chennai test in 1999 where Sachin took team to within 16 runs of win and who had issues after scoring 136...... got out. Then the Karnataka bowling brigade did this

c & b Saqlain Mushtaq 8 20 40 0 1 40.00
lbw b Wasim Akram 1 5 7 0 0 20.00
b Saqlain Mushtaq 1 8 17 0 0 12.50
not out 0 6 14 0 0 0.00

 

 

Till the T20s/IPL kicked off in 2007/2008... India esp in the bowling department was awful. Then after the advent of the IPL we won in 2011 and 2013... but the rest of the world figured things out and caught up. Kohli/Rohit best chance for WC win was 2023 in India but what happened in the final happened.

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2 hours ago, Vijy said:

it's been 11 yr since then. feels like it will be another 5-10 yr

T20 WC in 2016 and CT 2017 both Rohit and Virat were at their peak. They had two allrounders a young hardik and jaddu, upcoming Bumrah,Bhuvi was doing well ,  Dhawan at his absolute best. Sure Dhoni was on his decline but he was okay at the position he was playing. yet we lost against an ordinary Pakistan and WI side. 

 

We have to field a young team, we just cannot win with veterans who have year after year failed to win ICC trophy. Infact last year we lost two finals.  

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32 minutes ago, AKane said:

Sachin was let down by team many a times. Most notably the semifinal in 1996 vs SL. The win came in 2011 and thankfully the tourney was in India. Even in tests during the bitter rivalry with Pak came the Chennai test in 1999 where Sachin took team to within 16 runs of win and who had issues after scoring 136...... got out. Then the Karnataka bowling brigade did this

c & b Saqlain Mushtaq 8 20 40 0 1 40.00
lbw b Wasim Akram 1 5 7 0 0 20.00
b Saqlain Mushtaq 1 8 17 0 0 12.50
not out 0 6 14 0 0 0.00

 

 

Till the T20s/IPL kicked off in 2007/2008... India esp in the bowling department was awful. Then after the advent of the IPL we won in 2011 and 2013... but the rest of the world figured things out and caught up. Kohli/Rohit best chance for WC win was 2023 in India but what happened in the final happened.

Bit unfair in my opinion. I could claim team was let down by Sachin himself (specially when he also was the captain) when they failed to chase 120 against WI. A 30 run innings from Sachin would have done the job be he only got 5. Aus when kumble was the captain, clark got him out and in the end we lost the test in the final over. 

 

 

 

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