Need4Speed Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 8 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: If we're playing 4 fast bowlers, I would replace one of the regular pacers with an all-rounder such as Nitish Reddy. Gives us greater depth with Harshit at 9 as you don't need 4 specialist pacers. One of them can be an all-rounder. When you add a spin based all-rounder (e.g., Jadeja), you get 5 bowling options with batting depth till 8 or 9. This will allow us to be competitive everywhere and not just in sub-continent. In tests I want pure quality bowlers..I am fine if we have batting till 8.I want those 20 wkts fast.. Rightarmfast, Ultimate_Game and express bowling 3
Need4Speed Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 4 hours ago, JaFanatic said: Isn't Akashdeep better suited for this role? Nothing against Harshit though We will need Akashdeep and one more bowler in the mix too..injuries will happen..workload balancing will be required too..so they will come into the picture aa well from time to time express bowling 1
Ultimate_Game Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 5 hours ago, express bowling said: At No.8 we need a proper bowler who can hit big too. As of today, Nitish is neither a consistent big hitter nor a proper bowler. Harshit is ideal for this role. Ideally would like to see Harshit at 9. Harshit followed by Bumrah and Shami/Siraj or any other specialist pacer should be good. tweaker 1
Ultimate_Game Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 6 hours ago, Rightarmfast said: Ye to bahot kar chuke bhai. Zindagi bhar to yehi dekhta aa raha hoo. Maza to tab aaega jab batsmen choose honge unke bowling skills pe. But anyway, why do you need a ' neither batsman, nor bowler' kind of player when you have bowlers who can scare the opposition away? Whats the worst that can happen? India will lose? Will that be of any importance? I dont think so. If we've bowlers who're much better than the all-rounder then go for them. But if the difference is not that much and we're talking about the 4th pacer, makes sense to go for the all-rounder. Hopefully Nitish would turn out to be that batsman who can bowl As for batsmen becoming bowlers, in Tests the best they can do is give breaks to pacers. We'll need someone like Jadeja to provide more depth with both bat and ball. tweaker 1
express bowling Posted October 9, 2024 Author Posted October 9, 2024 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Ideally would like to see Harshit at 9. Harshit followed by Bumrah and Shami/Siraj or any other specialist pacer should be good. In SENA tests, we play 4 pacers usually. Reddy can't be picked as a frontline bowler in tests. If longer batting is preferred then 7. Jadeja .. proper batter 8. Harshit .. can bat 9. Akash .. can bat 10. Bumrah 11. Shami / Mayank ( when red ball ready ) Edited October 9, 2024 by express bowling AuxiliA and Mosher 1 1
Ultimate_Game Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 4 minutes ago, express bowling said: In SENA tests, we play 4 pacers usually. Reddy can't be picked as a frontline bowler in tests. If longer batting in preferred then 7. Jadeja .. proper batter 8. Harshit .. can bat 9. Akash .. can bat 10. Bumrah 11. Shami / Mayank ( when red ball ready ) Yeah this is much better. Harshit and Akash Deep can combine together to get some runs down the order. And if it's a green mamba like what we sometimes get in SA, NZ or Eng, would replace Jadeja with Nitish. No need for a spinner when it's an out and out seaming pitch.
tweaker Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 13 hours ago, express bowling said: In SENA tests, we play 4 pacers usually. Reddy can't be picked as a frontline bowler in tests. If longer batting is preferred then 7. Jadeja .. proper batter 8. Harshit .. can bat 9. Akash .. can bat 10. Bumrah 11. Shami / Mayank ( when red ball ready ) The team management has decided to back Nitish.Harshit has not been given any game till now.Inspite of having injury,low Duleep Trophy perfomance, he has been given more responsibilities. He is batting at no 4 and even opened and bowled end overs. express bowling 1
express bowling Posted October 10, 2024 Author Posted October 10, 2024 (edited) Mayank needs to try and bowl atleast 142 k to 152 k type speeds within his next couple of matches. Otherwise, getting back to 155 / 157 k won't be easy later on. He is not running in fast enough. Needs to change this and run in with purpose. Edited October 10, 2024 by express bowling singhvivek141, Mosher and tapandrun 3
singhvivek141 Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 6 minutes ago, express bowling said: Mayank needs to try and bowl atleast 142 k to 152 k type speeds within his next couple of matches. Otherwise, getting backed to 155 / 157 k won't be easy later on. He is not running in fast enough. Needs to change this and run in with purpose. Yup, he need to generate his momentum, bowling slower ones even to the tailenders. When at his pace he should be delivering a quick yorker to rattle the stumps or hit their ribs. Maybe Harshit's inclusion will motivate him a bit. express bowling and Mosher 2
express bowling Posted October 10, 2024 Author Posted October 10, 2024 Mayank ...... " Sticking to the basics, Mayank also talked about his approach when he bowls. “My pace is always in the back of my mind, but throughout my IPL journey, I’ve learned that consistency is key in this format, especially at the international level. Line and length are crucial, and being consistent with them helps — even the batsman starts to respect you. So, recently, I’ve been focusing more on being consistent with my line and length,” Does this mean that he is not looking to bowl extra fast any more ?? Suhaan, Mosher, Need4Speed and 1 other 1 3
Suhaan Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 12 minutes ago, express bowling said: Mayank ...... " Sticking to the basics, Mayank also talked about his approach when he bowls. “My pace is always in the back of my mind, but throughout my IPL journey, I’ve learned that consistency is key in this format, especially at the international level. Line and length are crucial, and being consistent with them helps — even the batsman starts to respect you. So, recently, I’ve been focusing more on being consistent with my line and length,” Does this mean that he is not looking to bowl extra fast any more ?? What a chewt
Suhaan Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 Mayank must start considering other options He's on the same track as Mavi He must retire from cricket express bowling 1
singhvivek141 Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 5 minutes ago, express bowling said: Mayank ...... " Sticking to the basics, Mayank also talked about his approach when he bowls. “My pace is always in the back of my mind, but throughout my IPL journey, I’ve learned that consistency is key in this format, especially at the international level. Line and length are crucial, and being consistent with them helps — even the batsman starts to respect you. So, recently, I’ve been focusing more on being consistent with my line and length,” Does this mean that he is not looking to bowl extra fast any more ?? Let's wait for few games.Umran too on his debut vs Ireland wasn't bowling quick... He picked up his pace gradually
express bowling Posted October 10, 2024 Author Posted October 10, 2024 Just now, singhvivek141 said: Let's wait for few games.Umran too on his debut vs Ireland wasn't bowling quick... He picked up his pace gradually I think, as he plays more, Mayank will surely pick up some pace. But my worry is whether he has been brainwashed at the NCA with the typical Indian mindset of " line and length and 140 k pace is good enough " !! Mosher 1
singhvivek141 Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 3 minutes ago, express bowling said: I think, as he plays more, Mayank will surely pick up some pace. But my worry is whether he has been brainwashed at the NCA with the typical Indian mindset of " line and length and 140 k pace is good enough " !! Let's hope his father is watching and will give the right advice. Mosher 1
Suhaan Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 20 minutes ago, express bowling said: I think, as he plays more, Mayank will surely pick up some pace. But my worry is whether he has been brainwashed at the NCA with the typical Indian mindset of " line and length and 140 k pace is good enough " !! He's on verge of becoming mavi 2.0 Mosher and express bowling 2
express bowling Posted October 10, 2024 Author Posted October 10, 2024 17 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Let's hope his father is watching and will give the right advice. At age 22, I did the exact opposite of what my father told me to do. singhvivek141, Mosher and Suhaan 3
cowboysfan Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Mayank needs to try and bowl atleast 142 k to 152 k type speeds within his next couple of matches. Otherwise, getting backed to 155 / 157 k won't be easy later on. He is not running in fast enough. Needs to change this and run in with purpose. agree on the run up,not sure he even is trying to bowl as fast as possible. express bowling 1
express bowling Posted October 10, 2024 Author Posted October 10, 2024 1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said: Maybe Harshit's inclusion will motivate him a bit. Umran's 150 k+ bowling in IPL 2022 " motivated " Shami to bowl slower and improve his line and length. Mosher and Suhaan 1 1
singhvivek141 Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 14 minutes ago, express bowling said: Umran's 150 k+ bowling in IPL 2022 " motivated " Shami to bowl slower and improve his line and length. Shami bhai is a veteran, has achieved enlightenment. harshit and Mayank are at same age. Plus being from same state they will be on good talking terms hopefully. Harshit naturally is an aggressive fellow, not shying away with fight. Mayank is quiet one. Mosher, tweaker and express bowling 3
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