MAYANK YADAV .... EXPRESS and bouncy Indian pacer who is accurate too

[putrevus]

3 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

That's a long term goal...and he can be a 140-150 pacer in Tests.

Right now, immediate focus should be making an impact. I know T20 is an unforgiving format but he has the advantage of extreme pace. He can't lose it.

 

Anyway at this moment Harshit is a better red ball prospect than him. We have got Akashdeep. If we can extract something from likes of Himanshu who is a proper red ball bowler, then we don't need to rush Mayank.

What is the fascination of him making impact in t20s.There is no t20 world cup till 2026.

 

Can he develop into all format bowler should be a bigger priority.He won't lose pace.I still feel if he can bowl 145 plus on consistent basis he should be going to Australia. Can he do it should be first question.

[AKane]

I thought the excitement in IPL was that he already had line and length plus extreme pace.

 

Now the extreme pace is gone/optional and suddenly he is searching for line and length......

[singhvivek141]

1 minute ago, putrevus said:

What is the fascination of him making impact in t20s.There is no t20 world cup till 2026.

 

Can he develop into all format bowler should be a bigger priority.He won't lose pace.I still feel if he can bowl 145 plus on consistent basis he should be going to Australia. Can he do it should be first question.

There is a T20 series vs SA in SA around Nov.

He needs to be there for that series. ODI leg I am not sure when is next.

 

Also, I am personally not a fan of "all format" thing. I am more in favour of "format specialists". 

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said:

There is a T20 series vs SA in SA around Nov.

He needs to be there for that series. ODI leg I am not sure when is next.

 

Also, I am personally not a fan of "all format" thing. I am more in favour of "format specialists". 

I don't think he is needed for any t20 series.India winning or losing that t20 series has no significance.

 

I am in favor of all format players.

 

Bumrah's value or now Jaiswal's value is far more higher than any SKYs.

 

All format players are gold.First we need find if this guy is capable of playing in all formats.

[express bowling]

36 minutes ago, putrevus said:

He can still be fiery.He should develop that ability to crank his speed up when needed but still bowl at high 140s.

 

Him playing longer formats is more important IMO.

 

Mayank should retain his ability to bowl SOME spells at 147 k to 157 k in every format .... and have default pace of 140 k to 150 k in longer formats. 

[putrevus]

8 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Mayank should retain his ability to bowl SOME spells at 147 k to 157 k in every format .... and have default pace of 140 k to 150 k in longer formats. 

I agree, he has pace , as long as he does not look to become line and length bowler, he will have pace.As I said as long as he has ability to crank up his speed when needed , he should be fine

 

Can he play longer formats and more importantly can he travel to Australia should be more important IMO.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

He does not have to touch 155 to be effective. He can bowl 145 and be effective. 

 

He can bowl 125 k and be effective too. Md. Abbas showed it.

 

He can bowl 100 k and be effective. Jaddu showed it. 

 

But if we want people to actually watch bowling and make the bowling part popular .... we need a 155 k Mayank Yadav and not a Dal-chawal 140 k pacer. 

Edited October 10 by express bowling

[putrevus]

Just now, express bowling said:

 

He can bowl 125 k and be effective too. Md. Abbas showed it.

 

He can bowl 100 k and be effective. Jaddu showed it. 

 

But if we want people to actually watch bowling and make the bowling part popular .... we need a 155 k Mayank Yadav and not a Dal-chawal 150 k pacer. 

No he won't, Abbas was not effective everywhere. 145 plus will be effective everywhere.

 

If Mayank Yadav plays test cricket, you won't be seeing him bowl 155k very often either.

[prudent_kreeda]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

He can bowl 125 k and be effective too. Md. Abbas showed it.

 

He can bowl 100 k and be effective. Jaddu showed it. 

 

But if we want people to actually watch bowling and make the bowling part popular .... we need a 155 k Mayank Yadav and not a Dal-chawal 150 k pacer. 

 

Would take any day a 150k  pacer with both hands be it daal -chawal, rajma chawal or daal roti one than a 130 types . India just have 2 pacers at 150k . So even 150k is so rare india. 

[express bowling]

3 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

 

Would take any day a 150k  pacer with both hands be it daal -chawal, rajma chawal or daal roti one than a 130 types . India just have 2 pacers at 150k . So even 150k is so rare india. 

 

I meant to write 140 k ... and 150 k was a typing error.

 

Someone bowling 140 to 150 k is a 145 k pacer. 

 

And a 145 k pacer in T20s may become a 140 k pacer ( 135 k to 145 k ) in the longer formats and this is pretty common nowadays. 

[singhvivek141]

11 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I agree, he has pace , as long as he does not look to become line and length bowler, he will have pace.As I said as long as he has ability to crank up his speed when needed , he should be fine

 

Can he play longer formats and more importantly can he travel to Australia should be more important IMO.

He was bowling 15-20 overs in NCA daily as per reports.

Maybe that's why Morkel and co are asking him to play over Harshit as they want to see his fitness.

 

 

[rkt.india]

I want next Shoaib and Brett Lee out of Umran and Mayank. 

[tapandrun]

The point of fast tracking Mayank into intnl cricket was his extra pace. He bowled just 40-50 balls in IPL with full fitness and touched 155+kmph.

The reason was not Ind was looking for some line-length bowler, if he remains line length then he should work on his skill in domestics.

 

The only reason he is in the team is because he showed the ability to bowl above 150 kmph , he leap-forged every1 is because of extra pace which only umran and mayank has in Ind.

 

It is similar to how they fast tracked Reddy on premise of being a fast bowling allrounder and if he says I can not bowl because I am concentrating on batting or visa-versa can not bat because I am concertrating on bowling.

 

This defeats the purpose of fast tracking any special talent. It would become a thing that players will try to over push in IPLs to be seem as special talent and once they get into Ind team they will come back to their natural ways

 

Abhishek leap forged ruturaj and other openers is because he showed the ability to go from ball 1 and maximize PP, if he turns into accumulator then what is the point of having him over  ruturaj and other openers ??

 

 

Edited October 10 by tapandrun

[Need4Speed]

6 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Mayank must start considering other options

He's on the same track as Mavi

He must retire from cricket

he will be replaced..you will find more skillful bowler bowling in that range..150ks+ sets him apart..145k..even Harshit can replace him if he bowls well..and bat..

[putrevus]

15 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

He was bowling 15-20 overs in NCA daily as per reports.

Maybe that's why Morkel and co are asking him to play over Harshit as they want to see his fitness.

 

 

Both Gambhir and Morkel need to be appluaded if they are doing that.

 

They need 6 fast bowler plus two reserves to handle 5 tests in such a short span.

 

 

[singhvivek141]

1 minute ago, putrevus said:

Both Gambhir and Morkel need to be appluaded if they are doing that.

 

They need 6 fast bowler plus two reserves to handle 5 tests in such a short span.

 

 

Bumrah

Shami (if fit)

Siraj

Akashdeep

Harshit

Dayal

 

Reserves

Mayank

Arshdeep

[Need4Speed]

If Umran does what he is saying..swinging the ball at high pace..and now is able to control the line and length...(????)..

he will replace Mayank..

Infact..I feel..in couple of years we are going to see more 145k+ pacers..who may have some extra skills than Mayank..

 

We want an express pacer to create more wkt taking opportunities in Middle overs..Control can be given by Bumrah and Axar too..

It doesnt mean that one doesnt maintain lien and length but that express pace will set him apart..which is what tapandrun said earlier..thats why he was fasttracked..when Harshit is sitting in bench from last 2/3 series..

 

I am still hopeful that he is just easing his body into International cricket..but I hope he doesnt take too much of time and settles into 145k bowler..

[tapandrun]

9 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Both Gambhir and Morkel need to be appluaded if they are doing that.

 

They need 6 fast bowler plus two reserves to handle 5 tests in such a short span.

 

 

Bgt is long shot for Mayank. He can only play of he is the 4th fast  bowler in the team and bowls 4/5 over spells at max.

Do not think this is going to happen Shami will be returning from injury and Siraj is already declining would the team risk a new bowler with overhanging injury clouds. This would put extra pressure and burden on Bhumrah was is also coming back from 2nd back injury 

 

 

[Need4Speed]

btw..this thread will lose excitemet..if Mayank settles into non express pacer role..this whole thread was created by express bowling on the premise Mayank is an Express Bowler..

[putrevus]

16 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Bumrah

Shami (if fit)

Siraj

Akashdeep

Harshit

Dayal

 

Reserves

Mayank

Arshdeep

Shami is not fit, other than Bumrah none of them inspire confidence. Akashdeep needs to become this tour's Siraj.

 

Do we even know Harshit and Dayal can bowl 20 overs.Dayal might work for D/N test but other than that I don't think he has anything to offer.I will be happy to be proven wrong.