MAYANK YADAV .... EXPRESS and bouncy Indian pacer who is accurate too

[BacktoCricaddict]

8 hours ago, nitinbwj said:

The fault lies in the soch.

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[tapandrun]

For a come-back/debut series think the speeds were okay, but he should come to his full speeds asap. He was not picked because he was 140 -147 kmph bowler.

He was picked over others because he is special talent, some1 who bowls 150+ kmph at v.accurate line and lengths.

 

This kind of pace and bowler are v.rare. one can count them on finger. If he or TM are still concerned about injury then what they did in last 5/6 month.

 

And the conversation what  extra 5/6 kmph  does is v.well visible heres- same bowler same skills not looking that special when he was bowling 5/6 kmph quicker.

If TM is concerned about his fitness he should be used sparingly but when he plays he should play as x-factor bowler.

 

As mentioned by others as well 140-147 kmph bowler who can not bat and can not field is no good would say then Ind should look for some1 else who can bat a bit

 

 

Edited October 13 by tapandrun

[AKane]

11 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Bro..no problem with his control.

It's just that we don't want him to lose his USP.

He is much more accurate that trundlers Bhuvi & Mukesh....but when he can do that at 150, why to limit at 140.

They have worked on his action - supposedly. Not sure how much they have tweaked it.

[MK55]

11 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

If Mayank can stay injury free and have control in 150s, I'm all for it. But most importantly he needs to be able to nail that good length delivery.

I’ve never seen him bowl Yorkers. He probably thought it was a low return high risk delivery for that pitch. But would have loved to see quick Yorkers to lower order batsmen. Something to add to the arsenal.

Edited October 13 by MK55

[singhvivek141]

28 minutes ago, MK55 said:

I’ve never seen him bowl Yorkers. He probably thought it was a low return high risk delivery for that pitch. But would have loved to see quick Yorkers to lower order batsmen. Something to add to the arsenal.

He bowl yorkers, bowled a few.

 

But he doesn't have full control..some can become low full tosses, some becomes over pitched deliveries.

As the Bang batters are backing away, its not always easy to hit even the over pitched deliveries if bowled at pace. 

[express bowling]

3 hours ago, tapandrun said:

For a come-back/debut series think the speeds were okay, but he should come to his full speeds asap. He was not picked because he was 140 -147 kmph bowler.

He was picked over others because he is special talent, some1 who bowls 150+ kmph at v.accurate line and lengths.

 

This kind of pace and bowler are v.rare. one can count them on finger. If he or TM are still concerned about injury then what they did in last 5/6 month.

 

And the conversation what  extra 5/6 kmph  does is v.well visible heres- same bowler same skills not looking that special when he was bowling 5/6 kmph quicker.

If TM is concerned about his fitness he should be used sparingly but when he plays he should play as x-factor bowler.

 

As mentioned by others as well 140-147 kmph bowler who can not bat and can not field is no good would say then Ind should look for some1 else who can bat a bit

 

 

Mayank has bowled 140 k to 150 k in all 3 matches. And another thing noticable is that the batsmen are standing very very deep in the crease while facing Mayank and still getting hurried and getting hit on slow pitches. 

 

Plus he has been accurate and bowled well overall.  Never been expensive and haa picked up 4 wickets. 

 

I agree that his USP is 155 k bowling and he should get back there. ( I too would prefer that he plays 2 matches and bowls 155 k instead of playing all 3 matches and bowls 150 k ).  But don't think he is replaceable as a bowler even at this pace as he is still hitting batsmen physically, picking wickets and not giving away runs. 

Edited October 13 by express bowling

[Lone Wolf]

13 hours ago, nitinbwj said:

Indian National Team, coaches,NCA, management just can't handle raw pace over 150kmph. We saw Varun,Umran and now Mayank,the guys who bowled 150 consistently in IPL just couldn't reach the same pace in internationals. I don't blame the player. The fault lies in the soch. There is something wrong with the thinking of Indian Team Management 

Umran didn't had a lengthy rehab in NCA when he first came.  Did bowl upwards of 150k often.

Although I suppose he is also in Mayank's category right now as his pace also dropped in the lone game he played in IPL.

NCA is filled with line length merchants.

[tapandrun]

25 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Umran didn't had a lengthy rehab in NCA when he first came.  Did bowl upwards of 150k often.

Although I suppose he is also in Mayank's category right now as his pace also dropped in the lone game he played in IPL.

NCA is filled with line length merchants.

Umran is not coming out of Ind cricketing system, after first few Ind matches he looked under-confident.

from out side it looks like if he is unsure that if he even belongs to intnl level. 

 

Would not read much into 1 ipl game because of the lack of confidence and he just bowled 1 over or something, but one does not remain 150 kmph bowler for long especially if they are not playing intnl games.

 

Its more than enough at this point that NCA is treating players for what they came there for ,else they have history of making things bad for even intnl player.

They nearly finshed Bhumra's career. 

 

Right now would say both Umran and Mayank are 140-147/148 kmph bowlers till they do not record same kind of speeds in intnl games consistently

 

Edited October 13 by tapandrun

[Suhaan]

57 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Umran didn't had a lengthy rehab in NCA when he first came.  Did bowl upwards of 150k often.

Although I suppose he is also in Mayank's category right now as his pace also dropped in the lone game he played in IPL.

NCA is filled with line length merchants.

Brett Lee returned from injury in Indias tour to Aus in late 2003/04 and wasn't near his usual pace still looked quite fast

Slowly with more games he got back his pace

Mayank has looked more rapid if you compare after his comeback

But thing with Indian cricket culture there is doubt about his pace revival  as we tend to compromise more on pace(ie extremepace for longevity)

 

[SandeepMotta]

Worst thing for Indian cricket is VVS being the head of NCA who doesn't believe in pace , good thing though is he isn't the national teams coach.

Edited October 13 by SandeepMotta

[Adamant]

I would take a 140-150 kph bowler who plays a lot instead of a 145-155 kph bowler who is able to play one test out of three.

 

Mayank is a solid bowler and his pace is great, its good enough to rattle batsman with the extra bounce he gets and his accuracy, I don’t know why we are looking for Akhtar when we can get a Michael Holding.

 

Works fine for me, no need to hit 150+ regulatly, once in a while is good enough.

 

The coaches have done well, hope he gets to play a match in Aus, he is probably the only young pacer who I would like to debut in Aus coz from what I see he is able to hit lengths consistently and maintain a line, there is hardly any movement in the air or off the surface but that’s pretty much expected from a 150 kph specimen. 

[Adamant]

3 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Mayank has bowled 140 k to 150 k in all 3 matches. And another thing noticable is that the batsmen are standing very very deep in the crease while facing Mayank and still getting hurried and getting hit on slow pitches. 

 

Plus he has been accurate and bowled well overall.  Never been expensive and haa picked up 4 wickets. 

 

I agree that his USP is 155 k bowling and he should get back there. ( I too would prefer that he plays 2 matches and bowls 155 k instead of playing all 3 matches and bowls 150 k ).  But don't think he is replaceable as a bowler even at this pace as he is still hitting batsmen physically, picking wickets and not giving away runs. 

Why do you want him to become Mark Wood when he clearly is capable of much more, I would want him to be able to sometimes play all three tests and sometimes maybe two of them, if you want him to operate at 155 and play just one match out of three you are really not getting the best out of him.

 

I am completely satisfied with whatever he is doing right now, I would like him to have a longer life as a pacer and end up with atound 250 test wkts like Michael Holding.

Edited October 13 by Adamant

[Adamant]

Umrans problem is that he is short and just runs in and bowls full tilt, Mayank is better.

[rkt.india]

4 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Mayank has bowled 140 k to 150 k in all 3 matches. And another thing noticable is that the batsmen are standing very very deep in the crease while facing Mayank and still getting hurried and getting hit on slow pitches. 

 

Plus he has been accurate and bowled well overall.  Never been expensive and haa picked up 4 wickets. 

 

I agree that his USP is 155 k bowling and he should get back there. ( I too would prefer that he plays 2 matches and bowls 155 k instead of playing all 3 matches and bowls 150 k ).  But don't think he is replaceable as a bowler even at this pace as he is still hitting batsmen physically, picking wickets and not giving away runs. 

Agree. Still bowling 145-150, not like we have heaps of 145+ bowlers. It's just that we are disappointed because he didn't hit 155k.

[rkt.india]

3 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Umran is not coming out of Ind cricketing system, after first few Ind matches he looked under-confident.

from out side it looks like if he is unsure that if he even belongs to intnl level. 

 

Would not read much into 1 ipl game because of the lack of confidence and he just bowled 1 over or something, but one does not remain 150 kmph bowler for long especially if they are not playing intnl games.

 

Its more than enough at this point that NCA is treating players for what they came there for ,else they have history of making things bad for even intnl player.

They nearly finshed Bhumra's career. 

 

Right now would say both Umran and Mayank are 140-147/148 kmph bowlers till they do not record same kind of speeds in intnl games consistently

 

Umran has bowled 155kph in international cricket.

[express bowling]

12 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Why do you want him to become Mark Wood when he clearly is capable of much more, I would want him to be able to sometimes play all three tests and sometimes maybe two of them, if you want him to operate at 155 and play just one match out of three you are really not getting the best out of him.

 

I am completely satisfied with whatever he is doing right now, I would like him to have a longer life as a pacer and end up with atound 250 test wkts like Michael Holding.

 

140 to 150 k is very good as base pace, but hitting 155 k / 157 k on occasions, if one has that ability, is a good thing because sometimes conditions flatten out and wickets have to be prised out. 

 

Bumrah's approach can be emulated in this matter. Bowl.at about 4 k less than peak pace .. never bowl much slower .. crank up to peak pace if conditions are flat. 

[Suhaan]

36 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Why do you want him to become Mark Wood when he clearly is capable of much more, I would want him to be able to sometimes play all three tests and sometimes maybe two of them, if you want him to operate at 155 and play just one match out of three you are really not getting the best out of him.

 

I am completely satisfied with whatever he is doing right now, I would like him to have a longer life as a pacer and end up with atound 250 test wkts like Michael Holding.

Iss Id se uski tareef kar rahe ho thori der baad aaoge dusri Id se phir usey gaali doge

 

Not good

[Nikhil_cric]

4 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Mayank has bowled 140 k to 150 k in all 3 matches. And another thing noticable is that the batsmen are standing very very deep in the crease while facing Mayank and still getting hurried and getting hit on slow pitches. 

 

Plus he has been accurate and bowled well overall.  Never been expensive and haa picked up 4 wickets. 

 

I agree that his USP is 155 k bowling and he should get back there. ( I too would prefer that he plays 2 matches and bowls 155 k instead of playing all 3 matches and bowls 150 k ).  But don't think he is replaceable as a bowler even at this pace as he is still hitting batsmen physically, picking wickets and not giving away runs. 

His USP is his ability to bowl a tight line despite being 140 + .

 

Not a single young Indian bowler has ever done that at that age.  It took Shami years to get control over his line. 

 

 

[Adamant]

22 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Iss Id se uski tareef kar rahe ho thori der baad aaoge dusri Id se phir usey gaali doge

 

Not good

Bhai itna time nahi hai, ek hi id hai bas.

[Adamant]

31 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Iss Id se uski tareef kar rahe ho thori der baad aaoge dusri Id se phir usey gaali doge

 

Not good

The thing is, I dont buy the hype of bowlers who bowl two 145 kph floaty balls in an over with all six of them dropped 1 m apart from each other , that kind of pace is only good for show off, nothing else.

 

Mayank on the other hand, actually bowls a good line and is tall, so I have some belief in him, his modification of action and bringing pace down by 2-3 kph is something i Wholeheartedly support, coz he still is a 145+ bowler and will bowl 150 soon.