MAYANK YADAV .... EXPRESS and bouncy Indian pacer who is accurate too

[JaFanatic]

Nothing against Javagal Srinath. He was definitely the fastest in India at kne point in time. But by no means he was quicker than a prime Bumrah. 

[raki05]

On 10/19/2024 at 2:42 AM, JaFanatic said:

Nothing against Javagal Srinath. He was definitely the fastest in India at kne point in time. But by no means he was quicker than a prime Bumrah. 

In 99 wc Srinath pace wise was only behined Akhtar and he has clocked many 145 and above ball , fastest being 149.9, i remember during 94 safrican tour when he was at his prime not sure about speed than but based on his 99 speed guns reading he would have definitely clocked more than 150 on quite a time… even safrican batters acknowledged that he was fastest man among both team and i saw even klusner was clocking 152 kph it was his first or second series. Srinath was fast he dint have versatility of bumrah but he was indeed fast.

[tapandrun]

 

 

 

https://www.sportstiger.com/news/was-determined-to-bowl-in-right-lengths-mayank-yadav-reveals-reason-behind-not-bowling-above-150-kmph

[AKane]

5 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

 

 

 

https://www.sportstiger.com/news/was-determined-to-bowl-in-right-lengths-mayank-yadav-reveals-reason-behind-not-bowling-above-150-kmph

See but in the IPL he was already bowling the right lenghts. He was almost ideal.  What happened to change his control? Have they fiddled with the action?

[tapandrun]

21 minutes ago, AKane said:

See but in the IPL he was already bowling the right lenghts. He was almost ideal.  What happened to change his control? Have they fiddled with the action?

just a come back series after 4/5 months and no game time behind this. touched 150 kmph once. Also does not look like he was going full tilt.

Lets see what he can do in next few series, with nca's history its understandable ppl are bit worried.

 

Tbh to bowl 150+ kmph there has to be some madness, can not think about injury all time. if he thinks of injury then it will be impossible.

Not entirely sure what his injury is/was, its not back/elbow/shoulder/groin injury so if he want and start pushing for those speeds he can attain it, but can not wait for long. never seen or heard any1 losing pace due to side strain. It was no surgery or anything tweaking action from a renowned expert should not have done theoretically, may take sometime to get into the action  

 

One thing was clear he was running that fast and was not having same arm speed. 

 

Tait, Wood, Lee, Akthar, styne were all madman bowling 150+kmph takes a lot. bowler is always at a tipping point of getting injured  , right now there is no safe way of bowling 150+ kmph

Edited October 23 by tapandrun

[MK55]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

 

 

 

https://www.sportstiger.com/news/was-determined-to-bowl-in-right-lengths-mayank-yadav-reveals-reason-behind-not-bowling-above-150-kmph

 

“I didn’t think about my speed. I just tried leaking the least runs possible and bowling at a proper line and length”

 

Someone should put some sense in him. He’s talking like a guy who’s about to retire. What kind of lame attitude is this??

Instead of being so docile, he should talk of bowling faster and breaking some bones and instilling fear in the batsmen. 

AND in case he’s forgotten, he bowled faster, leaked lower and got better quality batsmen out in the ipl. 

[tapandrun]

22 minutes ago, MK55 said:

 

“I didn’t think about my speed. I just tried leaking the least runs possible and bowling at a proper line and length”

 

Someone should put some sense in him. He’s talking like a guy who’s about to retire. What kind of lame attitude is this??

Instead of being so docile, he should talk of bowling faster and breaking some bones and instilling fear in the batsmen. 

AND in case he’s forgotten, he bowled faster, leaked lower and got better quality batsmen out in the ipl. 

Theoretically there should not be any reduction of pace , they just tweaked the action to be more efficient.

for bowling 150+kmph there has to be some madness, bowler has to motivated in that direction only.  may be muscle memory will take some time and then he will be bowling full tilt.

But cannot wait for that happen too long once bowler loses pace its hard to attain it back

 

[MK55]

4 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Theoretically there should not be any reduction of pace , they just tweaked the action to be more efficient.

for bowling 150+kmph there has to be some madness, bowler has to motivated in that direction only.  may be muscle memory will take some time and then he will be bowling full tilt.

But cannot wait for that happen too long once bowler loses pace its hard to attain it back

 

Yes true. There has to be some madness and an unhealthy obsession to bowl quick. I’m sure he can bowl 3-5k quicker if he wants to.
 

But that desire to bowl quick aka that attitude needs to be there. 

[Mosher]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

Theoretically there should not be any reduction of pace , they just tweaked the action to be more efficient.

for bowling 150+kmph there has to be some madness, bowler has to motivated in that direction only.  may be muscle memory will take some time and then he will be bowling full tilt.

But cannot wait for that happen too long once bowler loses pace its hard to attain it back

 

 

1 hour ago, MK55 said:

Yes true. There has to be some madness and an unhealthy obsession to bowl quick. I’m sure he can bowl 3-5k quicker if he wants to.
 

But that desire to bowl quick aka that attitude needs to be there. 

 

Yes. There has to be madness and willingness to bowl quick even after many inuries. Look at this Mark Wood clip in below link just after surgery when he was still feeling the effects of anaesthesia, rambling on about how he will 'still bowl fast'. Aaron had the same attitude, so did Umesh. Disappointed with Mayank's attitude. 

 

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/mark-woods-ramblings-under-anesthesia-after-elbow-surgery-leaves-twitter-in-splits-watch-2852094

[tweaker]

1 hour ago, MK55 said:

 

“I didn’t think about my speed. I just tried leaking the least runs possible and bowling at a proper line and length”

 

Someone should put some sense in him. He’s talking like a guy who’s about to retire. What kind of lame attitude is this??

Instead of being so docile, he should talk of bowling faster and breaking some bones and instilling fear in the batsmen. 

AND in case he’s forgotten, he bowled faster, leaked lower and got better quality batsmen out in the ipl. 

He has played for team India only because he can bowl 150 + kmph.

 

There are many line and length merchants ahead of him in queue.

 

He has only be leapfrog ahead Inspite of playing only 1 Ranji match because he can bowl fast.

[tapandrun]

17 minutes ago, Mosher said:

 

 

Yes. There has to be madness and willingness to bowl quick even after many inuries. Look at this Mark Wood clip in below link just after surgery when he was still feeling the effects of anaesthesia, rambling on about how he will 'still bowl fast'. Aaron had the same attitude, so did Umesh. Disappointed with Mayank's attitude. 

 

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/mark-woods-ramblings-under-anesthesia-after-elbow-surgery-leaves-twitter-in-splits-watch-2852094

Bond, akthar , tait , lee ,styne all had same attitude. Bond came injury after injury trying to bowl fast, akthar with bad knees, tait and styne I think had bad elbow always strapped up. Lee missed a wc with injury where tait played and came back stronger.

 

 

 

[Need4Speed]

if he is accurate around 145-150 max range..then someone else who is at 145k with decent movement and other skills..will replace him..

See..if he is bowling 150k+..he is an express bowler..for whom batting may not be so mandatory..so he can be easily be opening bowler or a first change bowler too..

However with 145-150..if you are not having movement and wkt taking skills and just accuracy..you may need some batting ability too..as you wont be bowling opening bowling to waste new ball movement..so we will need 2 more pacers..

So if you are just a 1st change bowler with 145-150k..any decent bowler with movement..or decent bowler with slight batting ability may pip you..

if you are bowling 145-150k..you will need some kind of extra factor..be it wkt taking ability with movement etc..or some batting ability..else you will be the first one to be dropped..to try a new face..

 

If you are accurate 150k+ express pacer..you are always in a chance to pick wkts...irrespective of weather..pitch..and opposition tail killer..yes..the tall..which has caused a lot of lost matches from good position for us..All of this makes you undroppable..not 145-150 accuracy..

 

In any case.. Dont fix what aint broken..he is accurate with express pace..as we saw in IPL..why you need more accuracy..at cost of speed..

 

Edited October 24 by Need4Speed

[singhvivek141]

4 hours ago, tapandrun said:

 

 

 

https://www.sportstiger.com/news/was-determined-to-bowl-in-right-lengths-mayank-yadav-reveals-reason-behind-not-bowling-above-150-kmph

I think someone in NCA must have "coached" him that going slow is the way to go in India.

 

There is a saying in Hindi which roughly translates to "going fast is the work of a Satan". Maybe some pure soul in NCA has put the fear of God in his mind. 

[tapandrun]

4 minutes ago, Need4Speed said:

if he is accurate around 145-150 max range..then someone else who is at 145k with decent movement and other skills..will replace him..

See..if he is bowling 150k+..he is an express bowler..for whom batting may not be so mandatory..so he can be easily be opening bowler or a first change bowler too..

However with 145-150..if you are not having movement and wkt taking skills and just accuracy..you may need some batting ability too..as you wont be bowling opening bowling to waste new ball movement..so we will need 2 more pacers..

So if you are just a 1st change bowler with 145-150k..any decent bowler with movement..or decent bowler with slight batting ability may pip you..

if you are bowling 145-150k..you will need some kind of extra factor..be it wkt taking ability with movement etc..or some batting ability..else you will be the first one to be dropped..to try a new face..

 

If you are accurate 150k+ express pacer..you are always in a chance to pick wkts...irrespective of weather..pitch..and opposition tail killer..yes..the tall..which has caused a lot of lost matches from good position for us..All of this makes you undroppable..not 145-150 accuracy..

 

And he is not a good fielder either 

[Need4Speed]

7 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

I think someone in NCA must have "coached" him that going slow is the way to go in India.

 

There is a saying in Hindi which roughly translates to "going fast is the work of a Satan". Maybe some pure soul in NCA has put the fear of God in his mind. 

I read somewhere Laxman was personally seeing his case :D

[tapandrun]

1 minute ago, Need4Speed said:

I read somewhere Laxman was personally seeing his case :D

He is the head of nca so every thing is under him and why nt take some credit. there was some renowned guy who worked with cmmins too. 

[Need4Speed]

1 minute ago, tapandrun said:

He is the head of nca so every thing is under him and why nt take some credit. there was some renowned guy who worked with cmmins too. 

yes Troy Cooley..he worked with him..

[tapandrun]

29 minutes ago, tweaker said:

He has played for team India only because he can bowl 150 + kmph.

 

There are many line and length merchants ahead of him in queue.

 

He has only be leapfrog ahead Inspite of playing only 1 Ranji match because he can bowl fast.

yes , when fully fit even tushar deshpamdey reaches ~147 kmph in t20s and he has good amount of domestic cricket exp.

[Suhaan]

Mayank Yadav must retire now,his attitude will force him anyway

[express bowling]

5 hours ago, tapandrun said:

 

 

 

https://www.sportstiger.com/news/was-determined-to-bowl-in-right-lengths-mayank-yadav-reveals-reason-behind-not-bowling-above-150-kmph

 

 

The impression that I got from this article is that Mayank was worried about his body and lack of actual match practice for more than 5 months.

 

Hence he was not thinking about speed but about actually completing this series while bowling a good enough line and length.

 

This is a natural thing to do as he has not played much domestic cricket in his life even. 

 

For reference, Bumrah in his comeback T20I series after 10 months vs Ireland in mid 2023, bowled about 5 kph slower than what he did in the ODI WC a couple of months later.