singhvivek141 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 12 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: There'll come a point when everyone's patience will run out. His talent and ability to bowl fast has given him a long rope but at some point it'll run out. Best thing BCCI can do so is let experts handle Mayank and send him abroad for rehabilitation and play him when he's fully recovered - be it 6 months or 1 year. Coming back from injury, playing a couple of T20s and getting injured again isn't helping anyone. Tbh...we need to accept that fast bowlers will get injured. As long as it's not a stress fracture, we shouldn't lose patience. It's easier to get bowlers who will bowl at 125-130k and gently let the ball kiss the surface...finding a 140-150k bowler is tougher and its like riding a high speed car which will obviously require high maintenance. No matter what the dihati commentators vomit against the pacers, we should appreciate and support them as long as they're ready to put work on their body. Mosher, Need4Speed, Ultimate_Game and 1 other 4 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 3 minutes ago, Chaos said: Oraiiiii biryani ra… fuel cheye van ni @Frustrated sare, em biryani Kavali? Chicken, Mutton, Prawns, Dum, Aloo, Paneer, Mushroom, mix veg. Chaos 1 Link to comment
Chaos Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Just now, singhvivek141 said: sare, em biryani Kavali? Chicken, Mutton, Prawns, Dum, Aloo, Paneer, Mushroom, mix veg. Mutton n prawns? . Coming to hyd nov 10th ish singhvivek141 and Nikhil_cric 2 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Just now, Chaos said: Mutton n prawns? . Coming to hyd nov 10th ish Super... After how many years ? Link to comment
Chaos Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Just now, singhvivek141 said: Super... After how many years ? I came last yr, now this time in nov singhvivek141 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 He will have to restart animal protein diet too. He has muscle injuries which means not enough protein. Mosher, Need4Speed and Suhaan 3 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 28 Author Share Posted October 28 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: He will have to restart animal protein diet too. He has muscle injuries which means not enough protein. Cooley asked Mayank to increase his protein intake too. This is so basic ... why was it not addressed earlier by his coach !! Mosher, Suhaan, Need4Speed and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Cooley asked Mayank to increase his protein intake too. This is so basic ... why was it not addressed earlier by his coach !! If he has asked him to do it, question is , whether has he restarted his non veg diet yet or not? There is a stage to it,if he starts revising his diet after declining to sub 140 in budhauti ,then he better keep early retirement in mind Edited October 28 by Suhaan express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment
MK55 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 If it’s confirmed to be an abdominal muscle injury. It’s better than some bone related or some stress fracture. Has to have the right diet and strengthen the core. The action change BS was entirely useless. He should seek the right expertise and address the specific problem first than resorting to other stuff. Also I find it hard to believe that he bowled for 20 overs a day for a month or so and then gets injured soon after bowling 4 odd overs. Was he even bowling at the right intensity during the rehab? Anyways for guys like him, there’s no point waiting multiple months hoping that somehow magically he gets cured of all future injuries. Get him fit quick, do some scans and if fit, get him back on field soon after. singhvivek141, tapandrun, Need4Speed and 1 other 4 Link to comment
MK55 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Also test cricket is completely out of question for now. Doesn’t matter if it’s short spells or whatever. Dont waste time getting him ready for that as of now. First get him back in LOIs in a relatively quick time. Also gotta increase the options. Umran needs to be brought into the setup soon. He’s probably more fit relatively. Mosher 1 Link to comment
MK55 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Actually looks like it’s some stress fracture of the back. This seems more likely. As per his coach, it isn’t some fresh injury. So what might have happened is that they would be in the process of getting some tests done after he complained of some discomfort. So now he definitely needs about 3 months rest. AND don’t grind him by bowling 20 overs a day FFS. Should be brought back from a LOI workload perspective. https://www.crictracker.com/cricket-news/mayank-yadav-set-for-another-stint-on-sidelines-due-to-ongoing-injury-problems/?amp=1 “It’s not that Mayank (currently at the BCCI Centre of Excellence on the outskirts of Bengaluru) has sustained a fresh injury, but he has been advised not to play now as they’re looking to have him back for the England ODIs (in January 2025),” Devendra Sharma was quoted as saying by Telegraph India. Furthermore, a BCCI official also revealed the nature of Mayank Yadav’s injury problems. They opined that it could be the case of a stress fracture in his back as well. “There appears to be some problem with his back... Could also be a case of stress fracture. As per the earlier prescription from the NCA (National Cricket Academy), he could play in the Ranji Trophy from its fourth or fifth round, but that’s no longer possible now. He’s again out for quite some time,” the official said. Need4Speed and Mosher 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 28 Author Share Posted October 28 However, according to a report from The Telegraph, the young pace sensation has suffered a possible stress fracture, which could see him spend more time on the sidelines. "There appears to be some problem with his back... Could also be a case of stress fracture Need4Speed, Suhaan and Mosher 2 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 28 Author Share Posted October 28 Just now, express bowling said: However, according to a report from The Telegraph, the young pace sensation has suffered a possible stress fracture, which could see him spend more time on the sidelines. "There appears to be some problem with his back... Could also be a case of stress fracture It looks like Mayank needs his body to mature before he can bowl fast. We probably need to give him one to two years before he can play regularly. And he needs to increase his protein intake and strengthen his body by training scientifically. Need4Speed, Suhaan, cricspirit and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 On 10/24/2024 at 7:57 AM, tapandrun said: Steyn was kind of madman he had bad shoulder and elbow which is kind of end of career injuries for a fast bowler but he kept coming back and bowled at high pace. He only had out-swing never ever tried to add any other skill, since the time of speedometer he is kind of unique pacer who can transition from 137 kmph to 150 kmph in same test match and be equally effective at all the speed ranges. And he too talked about trying to ball fastest he can when he was ever in doubt. Bumrah and Cummins they are at goldilocks zone in many terms though Cummins never had white ball skills he only added that slower bouncer just 1/2 years back. Tyagi- tbh never followed him or he does not play that often to watch, he is highly rated by some here but do not see that in any game I hv nt seen him playing that much-didnt watch that smat game where he was bowling 150+kmph. Thought last IPL should have been his break out season was coming off a good local t20 league and made sm waves with his speeds in smat but plays only 1 match and was not impressive there. As they say you need 1 ball to show that you are really fast and could take years to show that you are good bowler. He had that one game should have bowled full tilt. Right now do not see him making into Ind team in next 2/3 years unless something really changes v.fast like having the most wkt in 1 ipl season or something or bowls 155 kmph and wins games like mayank did there is no other way. No IPL team is interested in him he has been in 3/4 ipl teams so far and none wants to retain him and if they pick him he is always on the bench and mostly play garbage games if IPL team is not backing some1 its hard to get into ind team and its getting harder in domestic teams too. Need backing from IPL teams to get into ind team or domestic side if they are from top domestic boards. Steyn didnt just have outswing, steyn had as his stock delivery the best damn delivery you can ever hope to bowl : the ball that shapes in a bit, pitches and THEN outswings. The last quarter of Steyn's career is basically 'average to **** balls + this magic ball thrown in every 10-15% of the time' and the vast majority of his wickets are when this magic ball lands on good length and on offstump line, even the likes of Sachin or Bradman are screwed at Steyn's 140kph pace. Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 49 minutes ago, express bowling said: It looks like Mayank needs his body to mature before he can bowl fast. We probably need to give him one to two years before he can play regularly. And he needs to increase his protein intake and strengthen his body by training scientifically. does it mean..he wont be a 150k+ bowler after return anymore @rkt.india @express bowling and others.. Link to comment
vayuu1 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 1 hour ago, Need4Speed said: does it mean..he wont be a 150k+ bowler after return anymore @rkt.india @express bowling and others.. Actually no it means and I hope he will come stronger and better hopefully,aaron and yadav had multiple stress fractures same with jeera aka Cummins it's common for pacers too have that Need4Speed and raki05 1 1 Link to comment
tapandrun Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 (edited) 4 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Steyn didnt just have outswing, steyn had as his stock delivery the best damn delivery you can ever hope to bowl : the ball that shapes in a bit, pitches and THEN outswings. The last quarter of Steyn's career is basically 'average to **** balls + this magic ball thrown in every 10-15% of the time' and the vast majority of his wickets are when this magic ball lands on good length and on offstump line, even the likes of Sachin or Bradman are screwed at Steyn's 140kph pace. Styne himself said he did not have anything apart from outswing and in one talkshow/interview Zaheer also mentioned that he asked styne why he do not want to add inswing or something where styne said he does not to lose outswing he has . Edited October 28 by tapandrun Link to comment
tapandrun Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 (edited) 27 minutes ago, vayuu1 said: Actually no it means and I hope he will come stronger and better hopefully,aaron and yadav had multiple stress fractures same with jeera aka Cummins it's common for pacers too have that It depends up-on bowler to bowler some came back with reduced speed and some keep trying to push for those speeds. for Cummins there are multiple other bowlers who came with significant lose in pace. K.ronch when 1st came in wi side he was touching 150 kmph in test after back injury he was reduced to sub 135 kmph bowler. Milne when made his intnl debut he also touched 150 kmph and when returned back after injury he was 140-145 kmph bowler. What is his injury right now something to do with back-new injury or same old injury, the problem with bowling 145 +kmph bowler has live with the reality that they will get injured and have to repeate this injury - recovery process multiple times in their career. Its upto the bowler what he choses after injury to bowl fast or to look after the injury and cut on pace. As mentioned bowler needs kind of madness to come back after every injury and bowl fast. And all this gets lot tougher with 150+ kmph bowler, if some1 comes after recovery and takes time then they would never reach the top speeds they once had no matter how hard they push. So as soon as he recovers he would need to push himself to reach to those speeds is he willing to do that ??? Right now its hard to believe that he was bowling 15-20 overs in last 3/4 months with full speeds and once he come back in intnl cricket and bowls 12 overs in 3 games with reduced speed got injured again, either he was declared fit before the full recovery or there is something really wrong with him Edited October 28 by tapandrun Link to comment
tapandrun Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 https://cricxtasy.com/news/pace-sensation-mayank-yadav-sidelined-from-extended-period-again/ Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 1 hour ago, tapandrun said: Styne himself said he did not have anything apart from outswing and in once talkshow/interview Zaheer also mentioned that he asked styne why he do not want to add inswing or something where styne said he does not to lose outswing he has . Steyn had a very effective skiddy short ball. Also reverse swing tapandrun 1 Link to comment
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