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On 5/12/2024 at 12:36 AM, Trichromatic said:

 

The article hits the nail on the head but just falls short of calling it out, i.e., its the botched selection policies and BCCI management which is holding the team back. Someone like Varun, Abhishek, Parag etc. are not even in the reserves and a clearly unfit and over the hill Rohit is leading the side. This is beyond a joke at this point and everyone can see it.

 

When nepo-baby Jay Shah runs cricket in the country, can't really expect anything else. It's such a sad state of affair being an Indian cricket fan

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4 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

The article hits the nail on the hand but just falls short of calling it out, i.e., its the botched selection policies and BCCI management which is holding the team back. Someone like Varun, Abhishek, Parag etc. are not even in the reserves and a clearly unfit and over the hill Rohit is leading the side. This is beyond a joke at this point and everyone can see it.

 

When nepo-baby Jay Shah runs cricket in the country, can't really expect anything else. It's such a sad state of affair being an Indian cricket fan

Cricinfo will keep sucking up to BCCI, no matter what.

 

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10 hours ago, zen said:

If the stars perform in IPL, IPl form counts. If they don’t, “we look at other things besides IPL” :winky:

 

Agarkar, basically, undid the move to field youngsters in T20s.

 

Essentially, they have the team selected before hand and simply make up reasons to justify selections.

 

In case of Abhishek, he's not experienced despite scoring 400+ as an opener at a SR of 200+. In case of Rinku, his IPL form isn't great despite averaging 89 at a SR of 176 in T20Is. So which is it?

 

And in case of Rohit it's neither IPL form or performances in T20Is. Same with Siraj, Jadeja and most of Indian squad. Absolutely no accountability.

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3 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

Netherlands 53, SL 72, Namibia 56, Afg 74, BD 83

 

Only noteworthy innings of this batsman in 10 years in T20I tournaments for India, guess who's he?

Wow! Did not know the past was so incriminating.....

 

Only selection worse than him is probably Warner by the Aussies. Go figure......

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21 minutes ago, AKane said:

Wow! Did not know the past was so incriminating.....

 

Only selection worse than him is probably Warner by the Aussies. Go figure......

 

Because his PR including those on ICF never talk about it and keep deflecting blame on others

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2 hours ago, AKane said:

Wow! Did not know the past was so incriminating.....

 

Only selection worse than him is probably Warner by the Aussies. Go figure......

 

And Warner won them the WT20 tourney in 2021 along with Marsh

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20 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

You see the pattern right. Can't miss. I remember Rohit randomly started using Kishan as opener consistently in every single international match right before IPL. He was using international match to give practice to Kishan as opener. Then SKY got introduced in ODIs/Tests. If you look at carefully KKR players are consistently sidelined. Most recent victim is Rinku. Venky iyer was dropped cold moment Pandya was back. Never given another look. Rana was never given a run either. 

This has been a pattern.

 

Dhoni was Team India captain. CSK players were preferred over others. Remember Murali Vijay getting picked in the T20 side ahead of Uthappa. Manpreet Gony was selected for India.

 

Virat was Team India captain. KL and a bunch of RCB players made merry.

 

Rohit is captain. Now SKY, Ishan, Tilak etc get picked in many formats that aren't even pertinent to their skill.

 

It might be Gill next. Expect Mohit to make a comeback.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

And Warner won them the WT20 tourney in 2021 along with Marsh

Yes but he has declined a lot over the last 2.5 years.

 

This year in IPL he has 168 runs in 8 matches at 21.00 ave SR 134

Last year in IPL he had 516 in `14 matches at 36.85 SR 131

2022 in IPL he had 432 in 12 matches/3 no at 48 SR 150

 

 

2021 in IPL he was as bad as this year and he was removed as captain by Hyd and then in the WC had a point to prove.

 

Then he was 34 but now he is 37 ..... but Warner having a point to prove is never a good thing for opposition. Still father time is father time.

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19 minutes ago, AKane said:

Yes but he has declined a lot over the last 2.5 years.

 

This year in IPL he has 168 runs in 8 matches at 21.00 ave SR 134

Last year in IPL he had 516 in `14 matches at 36.85 SR 131

2022 in IPL he had 432 in 12 matches/3 no at 48 SR 150

 

 

2021 in IPL he was as bad as this year and he was removed as captain by Hyd and then in the WC had a point to prove.

 

Then he was 34 but now he is 37 ..... but Warner having a point to prove is never a good thing for opposition. Still father time is father time.

Warner is struggling with Father Time, VadaPav is struggling with both Father Time and Mother Obesity

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12 minutes ago, AKane said:

Yes but he has declined a lot over the last 2.5 years.

 

This year in IPL he has 168 runs in 8 matches at 21.00 ave SR 134

Last year in IPL he had 516 in `14 matches at 36.85 SR 131

2022 in IPL he had 432 in 12 matches/3 no at 48 SR 150

 

 

2021 in IPL he was as bad as this year and he was removed as captain by Hyd and then in the WC had a point to prove.

 

Then he was 34 but now he is 37 ..... but Warner having a point to prove is never a good thing for opposition. Still father time is father time.

 

Agreed. I would've gone with McGurk to partner with Head. But Aussie selectors deserve benefit of doubt. After all their decisions - be it backing Cummins as captain across all formats, or backing Head, Marsh & Maxwell - have paid handsomely and they've won 4 ICC tourneys over the last 8 years. So you can't really argue with their method.

 

Good thing with them is that if Warner fails this tourney, he's gone. Head of Cricket Australia won't name Warner as the opener for next tourney. There's a reason they've been so consistent.

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11 hours ago, Vijy said:

Warner is struggling with Father Time, VadaPav is struggling with both Father Time and Mother Obesity

Warner is also rich btw. Not rohit level rich but he is still super rich yet he keeps himself motivated to always die for the country. To lead by example and win icc events. Rohit? Errr

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22 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

The article hits the nail on the head but just falls short of calling it out, i.e., its the botched selection policies and BCCI management which is holding the team back. Someone like Varun, Abhishek, Parag etc. are not even in the reserves and a clearly unfit and over the hill Rohit is leading the side. This is beyond a joke at this point and everyone can see it.

 

When nepo-baby Jay Shah runs cricket in the country, can't really expect anything else. It's such a sad state of affair being an Indian cricket fan

 

The root cause of all this angst? IPL just before WCT20. Different conditions, different tactics, some different rules - so performances here may not predict WCT20 performances. But you can't look away.

 

There is an easy solution here.

 

Hold the WCT20 tourney before the IPL. Given that the IPL is the bigger deal financially for the players, their WCT20 performance can be the IPL audition.

 

OR

 

Have a multi-month gap between IPL and WC T20. Schedule a bunch of T20 series/tourneys (bilaterals, triangulars, quadrangulars ...). That way, every national team has an opportunity to try out their IPL performers and see who can sustain their form.

 

 

 

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