Singh bling Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 21 hours ago, coffee_rules said: In fact it is the other way around. You can say whatever you want inside parliament or assembly without being liable. They can’t take you to court unlike for stuff said outside. Raga said saare Modi chor hain in a rally and was convicted. Same with Arvind Kejriwal had to apologize to Arun Jaitley and Gadkari when he levied corruption charges outside of assembly. They dragged him to court and now all his ramblings are inside assembly. in this case, they didn’t even name him directly. Jiski jaat ka pata nahin , woh jaati janganana ki baat kar rahein hain! In what way will it damage BJP? He can garner some sympathy votes , but going by his ramblings about caste in recent times, nobody will care for his hurt feelings because he was insulted indirectly in parliament. If speaking irresponsibilly has repercussion then 80% of BJP of politicians and 50% of other party politicians would have been in jail. BJP leaders openly give hate speech and call for violence against Muslims but still nothing happen to them. What you are quoting are isolated incidents mostly on opposition leaders
mishra Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 3 minutes ago, Singh bling said: If speaking irresponsibilly has repercussion then 80% of BJP of politicians and 50% of other party politicians would have been in jail. BJP leaders openly give hate speech and call for violence against Muslims but still nothing happen to them. What you are quoting are isolated incidents mostly on opposition leaders Think you are wrong with 80%. when it comes to MUslims, I will be very clear. Most BJP members are saying not to forget history, only selected few are saying dont forgive. On contrary whole of opposition (100%) is saying forget and forgive. Not just old but even recent and current incidents. Sikh may have big hearts to forget and forgive Islamic atrocities till partition and accept current and recent incidents as BAU. Hindus dont and mustnt
Singh bling Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 2 hours ago, mishra said: Think you are wrong with 80%. when it comes to MUslims, I will be very clear. Most BJP members are saying not to forget history, only selected few are saying dont forgive. On contrary whole of opposition (100%) is saying forget and forgive. Not just old but even recent and current incidents. Sikh may have big hearts to forget and forgive Islamic atrocities till partition and accept current and recent incidents as BAU. Hindus dont and mustnt https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/75-of-hate-speech-events-in-bjp-ruled-states-report/article67888978.ece
coffee_rules Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Singh bling said: If speaking irresponsibilly has repercussion then 80% of BJP of politicians and 50% of other party politicians would have been in jail. BJP leaders openly give hate speech and call for violence against Muslims but still nothing happen to them. What you are quoting are isolated incidents mostly on opposition leaders I was not speaking rhetorically. I am telling you a fact that what is said in legislature can’t be used in court of law. MPs and MLAs have that immunity. Hence Modi can called a Hitler, darinda, maut ka saudagar etc, and nobody can take legal action, if it is said in parliament. Rest of the stuff is your rhetoric. Nobody stops from taking BJP or Modi to court on stuff said outside. Even you can raise a PIL in court. Edited August 2, 2024 by coffee_rules
coffee_rules Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Singh bling said: https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/75-of-hate-speech-events-in-bjp-ruled-states-report/article67888978.ece Report released by India Hate Lab, a Washington DC-based group. They don’t have any constitutional authority in India. Enough said. Nobody stops from taking BJP leaders to court based on that report. Our judiciary allows that. Edited August 2, 2024 by coffee_rules
Singh bling Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 7 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Report released by India Hate Lab, a Washington DC-based group. They don’t have any constitutional authority in India. Enough said. Nobody stops from taking BJP leaders to court based on that report. Our judiciary allows that. How about cases registered https://www.deccanherald.com/india/over-100-mps-mlas-face-hate-speech-cases-bjp-accounts-for-40-of-total-2710425
coffee_rules Posted August 2, 2024 Posted August 2, 2024 4 hours ago, Singh bling said: How about cases registered https://www.deccanherald.com/india/over-100-mps-mlas-face-hate-speech-cases-bjp-accounts-for-40-of-total-2710425 I don’t know what is this. How does it disprove what I am claiming, all these are cases outside the parliament except one case which is addressed by parliament ethics committee (and not the law commission) . Btw, none of these are convicted cases, just registered.
Muloghonto Posted August 3, 2024 Posted August 3, 2024 13 hours ago, Singh bling said: https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/75-of-hate-speech-events-in-bjp-ruled-states-report/article67888978.ece analysis performed by ADR, a noted american installed organisation. Ergo, rejected.
coffee_rules Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 Opposition confused which mudda to pick for a street fight. SC verdict of quota within quota or this Waqf bill.
mishra Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 On 8/5/2024 at 12:56 AM, coffee_rules said: Opposition confused which mudda to pick for a street fight. SC verdict of quota within quota or this Waqf bill. i fully support reservation for SC, ST and OBC. I only support reservation for SC ST and OBC. However, I personally know that their was a problem and beneficiaries of quota system only went to just selected few SC , ST and OBC. So a judgement by Supre Court was indeed needed. Infact I know a family where everyone is either Political bigwig, or IAS/IFS/IPS/IES. Infact all females in family of theirs are also Medical or Engineer (Non Practicing ie seat of a Premier Institute was wasted). Such families should not have access to quota.
IndianRenegade Posted August 8, 2024 Posted August 8, 2024 Thinking about the difference between US elections and recent Indian election. No matter what the polls say, every presidential cycle or mid-terms both sides hit the road claiming how important the election is, how close they are from the end of america as you know it, this is the most important election of their life times.... blah balah balah. Then you had BJP which ran much of the election cycle on the claim - don't worry we are going to win, but do us a favor make it 400+! What a dumb move it was? coffee_rules 1
mishra Posted August 9, 2024 Posted August 9, 2024 9 hours ago, IndianRenegade said: Thinking about the difference between US elections and recent Indian election. No matter what the polls say, every presidential cycle or mid-terms both sides hit the road claiming how important the election is, how close they are from the end of america as you know it, this is the most important election of their life times.... blah balah balah. Then you had BJP which ran much of the election cycle on the claim - don't worry we are going to win, but do us a favor make it 400+! What a dumb move it was? Hindsight, I think 400+ was a bad move. Yest it got them few uncontesed seats, But it also put the lax attitude into BJP voter and Party worker. coffee_rules 1
Lone Wolf Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 BJP party Khatakat version coffee_rules and Lord 1 1
coffee_rules Posted August 15, 2024 Posted August 15, 2024 Pitch for UCC . mmost likely through a JPC
mishra Posted August 16, 2024 Posted August 16, 2024 On 8/13/2024 at 5:22 AM, Lone Wolf said: BJP party Khatakat version I for one asked the BJP cell to come up for a policy like this.if Raulji can afford Rs 8500/- pm to everyone then why shouldnt BJP. Its all right that everyone should work but people not in employment are enough to give Congress Power. Once Rahulji is in power, all good will go down drain. Indian Gvmnt will be back again requesting Yasin Malik to talk to his handlers not to attack India using terrorism like they did in 2006
Lone Wolf Posted August 16, 2024 Posted August 16, 2024 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mishra said: I for one asked the BJP cell to come up for a policy like this.if Raulji can afford Rs 8500/- pm to everyone then why shouldnt BJP. Its all right that everyone should work but people not in employment are enough to give Congress Power. Once Rahulji is in power, all good will go down drain. Indian Gvmnt will be back again requesting Yasin Malik to talk to his handlers not to attack India using terrorism like they did in 2006 When BJ party goes out of power we will see some humongous Scams coming out that nobody in their wildest imagination ever saw. Maybe some anti national activities will also surface. Never trust a Gujju gormint. They might as well be compromised. Edited August 16, 2024 by Lone Wolf Insidious 1
Singh bling Posted August 16, 2024 Posted August 16, 2024 (edited) https://x.com/ECISVEEP/status/1824416939437068305?t=f_RtWPKxDnSPw_va6Ocaow&s=19 Kya government hai 4 states ke election ek saath bhi nahi kara sakti. Haryana assembly date 5 year date 5 November and Maharashtra 26 November. Now they will announce election after election. Edited August 16, 2024 by Singh bling
coffee_rules Posted August 16, 2024 Posted August 16, 2024 59 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: When BJ party goes out of power we will see some humongous Scams coming out that nobody in their wildest imagination ever saw. Maybe some anti national activities will also surface. Never trust a Gujju gormint. They might as well be compromised. The difference is UPA era scams were outted during their rule. If BJP scams come after they leave, they could be retributional only. Media unearthed Bofors, CWG. 2G, Fodder etc while the gov was in power.
Lone Wolf Posted August 16, 2024 Posted August 16, 2024 25 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: The difference is UPA era scams were outted during their rule. If BJP scams come after they leave, they could be retributional only. Media unearthed Bofors, CWG. 2G, Fodder etc while the gov was in power. BJP invested heavily in local PR machinery msm & were quick to latch onto social media. UPA were too high & power ka nasha was ott & they didn't paid heed to what was unfolding made CIA's job all too easy as well and Kejruddin infiltrated along with Anna & created mahol for regime change. There was no coming back from it. A decade later they seem to have rectified most of those mistakes. Also I think they will really go hard at opposition like old school congress playbook.
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