Ab ki baar, Coalition Sarkar! Modi 3.0 Government Formation, performance thread

[jigjig]

2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Kya hi f**du policy hai yaar @Gollum another gem unleashed 

 

Khatna hobe

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, zen said:

GOI needs to pull up its socks. It appears to have got its priorities wrong: 

 

* BD Hindus ignored and left at the mercy of savages 

* Risked Ind’s image by getting involved with killing low value targets in the west (giving a voice to anti-India PR)

 

I think India is slowly moving to anti Western block... Warming up to China and Russia.

Throwback to 2007's era.

 

Either they are anticipating a Trump return or something.

Canada is solely acting on US dictat.

So it's bound to get worse.

Jaishankar should long have been sacked for BD Maldives and This Canada sh*tshow.

 

[zen]

11 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

I think India is slowly moving to anti Western block... Warming up to China and Russia.

Throwback to 2007's era.

 

Either they are anticipating a Trump return or something.

Canada is solely acting on US dictat.

So it's bound to get worse.

Jaishankar should long have been sacked for BD Maldives and This Canada sh*tshow.

 

The issue is that countries do not trust India as a reliable partner. While India may act as if it belongs to group A or group B, when situation gets hot, it will tuck its tail to become “non -aligned”.
 

We saw that in BD too where on one handed we appeared to champion the minorities cause in neighbouring Islamic countries but when the moment came, were no where to be seen. 
 

The chest thumping is mainly for the local vote bank (much like how a neighbour views itself as the Islamic Superpower to even issue threats such as nukes are not to be kept in almaari)!

 

Judge GOI through its actions, not words.

Edited October 22, 2024 by zen

[mishra]

2 hours ago, zen said:

The issue is that countries do not trust India as a reliable partner. While India may act as if it belongs to group A or group B, when situation gets hot, it will tuck its tail to become “non -aligned”.
 

We saw that in BD too where on one handed we appeared to champion the minorities cause in neighbouring Islamic countries but when the moment came, were no where to be seen. 
 

The chest thumping is mainly for the local vote bank (much like how a neighbour views itself as the Islamic Superpower to even issue threats such as nukes are not to be kept in almaari)!

 

Judge GOI through its actions, not words.

Hold on. In case of Bangladesh, Isnt it West who has brought fundamentalists to Power and resulting in genocide of Bangaldeshi Hindus?  SO how can India be silent spectator to whatever West is doing against Indian interest and NOT look for option. How can you  ask India to fully join West? History an present is saying otherwise. With colonialism gone, West wants its neocoloniasm to stay.

 

IMO, The day BRICS currency gets introduced, End of neocolonism will start. Indian interest is aligned with rest of world when it comes to ending Neo Colonism

Edited October 22, 2024 by mishra

[zen]

17 minutes ago, mishra said:

Hold on. In case of Bangladesh, Isnt it West who has brought fundamentalists to Power and resulting in genocide of Bangaldeshi Hindus?  SO how can India be silent spectator to whatever West is doing against Indian interest and look for option. How can you  ask India to trust West?

Who is asking India to trust anyone? India, basically, lives in a silo, relying heavily on Russia which is more interested in selling its commodities and weapons.

 

Whatever discussions happen in India are for the local vote bank, hardly anything is ever impacted in a meaningful way outside by India (GOI). Among Indians, Indian is great based on chest thumping (words, which not many take seriously except its target local audience) not actions. 
 

On BD Hindus, I felt that GOI let them down. Therefore, in a way, the Hindus down. It should have at least tried to move those who wanted to move out (Rather than seeking reasons to not do so. In the hour of need,  India usually looks for a reason to not help and proclaim “non-aligned”).

Edited October 22, 2024 by zen

[mishra]

33 minutes ago, zen said:

Who is asking India to trust anyone? India, basically, lives in a silo, relying heavily on Russia which is more interested in selling its commodities and weapons.

 

Whatever discussions happen in India are for the local vote bank, hardly anything is ever impacted in a meaningful way outside by India (GOI). Among Indians, Indian is great based on chest thumping (words, which not many take seriously except its target local audience) not actions. 
 

 

Again, Read Neo Colonialism and tools of it and how what is happening in modern world by non Western nations is aligned to that. No one is saying west is bad or we wont do business. They are just saying to West is its time to moove on from neocolonism and let them fully own the fruits of their hard work and resources instead of just a share via dollar trade,IMF,UN,World Bank,Swift.

 

33 minutes ago, zen said:

On BD Hindus, I felt that GOI let them down. Therefore, in a way, the Hindus down. It should have at least tried to move those who wanted to move out (Rather than seeking reasons to not do so. In the hour of need,  India usually looks for a reason to not help and proclaim “non-aligned”).

This I partially agree. MAy be India thinks it will do armed intervention if push comes to shove. 

 

But blame squarely goes to West for creating the situation in first place. Fact is: US was first to hail Yunus, is encouraging genocide and turns blind eye to attrocities and fundamentism in Bangladesh under new regime, Actively tried to bring down Hasia. I can go on and on on US role

Edited October 22, 2024 by mishra

[zen]

3 minutes ago, mishra said:

Again, Read Neo Colonialism and tools of it and how what is happening in modern world by non Western nations is aligned to that. No one is saying west is bad or we wont do business. They are just saying to West is its time to moove on from neocolonism and let them fully own the fruits of their hard work and resources instead of just a share via dollar trade,IMF,UN,World Bank,Swift.

 

This I partially agree. MAy be India thinks it will do armed intervention if push comes to shove. 

 

But blame squarely goes to West for creating the situation in first place. Fact is: US was first to hail Yunus, is encouraging genocide and turns blind eye to attrocities and fundamentism in Bangladesh under new regime, Actively tried to bring down Hasia. I can go on and on on US role

If Ind hopes to attain its potential, it needs to get away from the “excuses” culture, introspect,  and accept responsibility, and try to do the right thing.  
 

Otherwise there will always be an excuse. Today it is #842. Tomorrow, it will be excuse #843, and day after tomorrow, … (If nothing works, need to be developed and focus on economy. And when it suits - we are x in terms of GDP, our defense budget is > than Y country’s GDP, and so on. Need action, not words!)

[mishra]

1 minute ago, zen said:

If Ind hopes to attain its potential, it needs to get away from the “excuses” culture, introspect,  and accept responsibility, and try to do the right thing.  
 

Otherwise there will always be an excuse. Today it is #842. Tomorrow, it will be excuse #843, and day after tomorrow, … (If nothing works, need to be developed and focus on economy. And when it suits - we are x in terms of GDP, our defense budget is > than Y country’s GDP, and so on. Need action, not words!)

GDP means nothing. In Current Global order, No non Western Country is in position to to act freely. There are threats of UN Sanctions. US Sanction of first category, US Sanction of Second Category and so on. China Russia India are three countries which are too big to Fail or come under sanctions as they either represent or directly help allmost all of non Western  world. So they are trying to come up with alternative System. Hence you see new voices like Global South, BRICS.

[zen]

54 minutes ago, mishra said:

GDP means nothing. In Current Global order, No non Western Country is in position to to act freely. There are threats of UN Sanctions. US Sanction of first category, US Sanction of Second Category and so on. China Russia India are three countries which are too big to Fail or come under sanctions as they either represent or directly help allmost all of non Western  world. So they are trying to come up with alternative System. Hence you see new voices like Global South, BRICS.

if I were GOI, I would have done something for BD Hindus despite whatever excuses. At least, quickly brought those who wanted to escape BD (you don’t need west this or that for that). 
 

These are just excuses as where there is a will, there is a way.  Let’s give this excuse #842.

Right now, BJP = GOI and its key qualification is perceived to be it is better than Rahul’s Congress. Sooner or later, people will ask - is it? If these guys are such, how bad can someone else be? And so on. 
 

Even if a party’s main goal is to stay in power for as long as it can, it still needs to do the right things rather than chest thumping (and trying to gain points on social media - “words”) and doing what is more convenient for it at the hour of need (“inaction”).

 

After a few years, I would not be surprised if you (and many of the others) would be writing what I am writing now (if the GOI does not pull up its socks)!!

 

 

Edited October 22, 2024 by zen

[mishra]

I agree with you on Bangladesh. Government hasn’t done enough.ideal solution is passing minority bill based on Hindu demands which they put to government in Bangladesh to prevent Hindus by law. Government of Bangladesh is making excuses. GOI should and must ensure US to say same to Yunus. Also ensure a Yunus knows that Brahmos can fall in Bangladesh if needed

Edited October 22, 2024 by mishra

[coffee_rules]

Any opinions on BRICS ? Anybody slitting their wrists or very shameful of India .. ikkhatte ho jao! 
 

West is not liking what India is doing here! Warming up to Putin. India - China samjotha express happening in Kazan? I don’t trust the Commies, but the BRICS currency is a good step towards fighting the dollar hegemony.

Edited October 24, 2024 by coffee_rules

[jigjig]

6 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Any opinions on BRICS ? Anybody slitting their wrists or very shameful of India .. ikkhatte ho jao! 
 

West is not liking what India is doing here! Warming up to Putin. India - China samjotha express happening in Kazan? I don’t trust the Commies, but the BRICS currency is a good step towards fighting the dollar hegemony.

West may be our best hope . The bloc here is really not our well wisher

[coffee_rules]

15 minutes ago, jigjig said:

West may be our best hope . The bloc here is really not our well wisher

Of course. But the west beds with our staunch enemies Pakistan, BD, even China. This bloc is just a deterrent in case West does hara-kiri. 

[ravishingravi]

1 hour ago, jigjig said:

West may be our best hope . The bloc here is really not our well wisher

 

This is geo politics. There are no well wishers. Only interests. 

[ravishingravi]

8 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Any opinions on BRICS ? Anybody slitting their wrists or very shameful of India .. ikkhatte ho jao! 
 

West is not liking what India is doing here! Warming up to Putin. India - China samjotha express happening in Kazan? I don’t trust the Commies, but the BRICS currency is a good step towards fighting the dollar hegemony.

 

I think some people don't understand what just happened. Initial steps towards an alternate World order are being set. 

 

India is a poor country all said and done trying to punch above it's weight and leverage whatever benefits it's people. India needs technology from West and resources from Russia. Not just oil but rare earth materials.

 

1) This BRICS was a slap by India to the west. You want to use our fault lines, we will cosy up to China and Russia. 

 

2) India and Russia signed an exclusive space research initiatives. Unbelievably important and a message to China by Russia. Get out off your big brother mindset. 

 

3) BRICS currency. Very nascent. But the message is that it's coming. If BRICS nations start using it among themselves, that's potentially $5trillion worth of transactions first years. This is being worked out. 

 

4) India stated very clear initiatives for global south. Specific projects. Not just lip service. 

 

5) India got Ethiopia in Bricks. As Member. Very important power move and does a lot for India's interest in Africa. 

Edited October 25, 2024 by ravishingravi

[ravishingravi]

 

[jigjig]

3 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

See what our Union Minister of Textiles is saying 

 

 

 

Superpower by 2047? My arse.....

 

Can this moron concentrate on his work as textile minister?

 

BJP is an embarassment to hindus and nation.

 

 

That he is saying this does not mean work is not being done in the textile industry. Or does it?

[coffee_rules]

4 hours ago, jigjig said:

That he is saying this does not mean work is not being done in the textile industry. Or does it?

What he means is to support the guys who want illegal immigration (ghuspetiyaan), and support those who wants to eradicate sanatan dharma as it is dengue.

[jigjig]

19 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

The fact that you think man has enough iq to do his job baffles me.

 

BJP chooses these extremist dumb guys as union ministers.

 

IQ. have you heard of Ashwin vaishnav. How is his IQ. How is his ministry doing??

 

You know there are people below to handle things. 

[jigjig]

5 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

My god!  You would stoop to any level to defend these morons.

 

People who spews religious hatred like this should not be union ministers. How is that hard for you to understand?

 

That is not what you said. You said he should work on his industry