Kalki 2898 AD trailer

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

 

Bollydawood is arrogant and too much full of themselves, I think there were some movies where they used to call the folks with Mongoloid features as Hakka Noddles, clearly a derogatory term. Every Goan will be portrayed as a colourful shirt wearing Peter or D'Souza engaged into drugs, every Rajasthani with regressive society and every Bihari with thief mentality and funny accent.

 

But when they will have to portray someone from Pakistan, he/she will be an elite, well dressed, urdu speaking disciplined individual with great connect to his religion.

 

Youths and teenagers which see such movies, start believing that's the normal practice and starts behaving the same. 

lol, Goans and colorful shirts  They are shown as mosly drunkards. Henchmen too were usually Christian names - Peter, Michael etc. Most vamps were also Christians. Moneylenders were Hindu baniyas are usually corrupt and womanizers. 

 

Most of the writers and makers came from Pakistan across the border after 1947, Urduwood would promote Urdu as tehzeeb and Hindi kadi bol as primitive culture. Also they were socialists and/or commies with limited worldview or Indian view.  The Hindu Hero would usually be a nastilk rejecting gods. While Muslim characters were always shown pious religious people with azaan BGM whenever they appear on screen. 

[coffee_rules]

53 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

We have discrimination based on caste.

 

Only if we eliminate discrimination, we can do away with reservation.Not the other way around.

 

1. Promoting marriage between different caste of hindus especially with Dalits.

2. Priestly duties should not be reserved to just Brahmins. Design a course for doing priestly activites and recruit from that. Anyone (hindu) can become priest.

3. Everyone is equal based on birth. This should be mentioned by every political party and anyone who supports caste superiority in any social media or any media must be punished.

 

2 - this point is already implemented in TN to some extent.

 

 

 

If you want jaatiwaad to be eliminated, get your rich non-brahmin UC zamindaars to stop exploiting Dalit laborers and farmer by usurping their land and wealth. Most of the caste discrimination happens by non-priestly class UC people - your Vokkaligas, Yadavs, Thakurs, Mudaliars, Chettiars, Vellalars, etc. That is the case in most of India. Non-brahmin priests are already there in many community based temples - it is not a big deal. EVR has brainwashed people and he wants to blame brahmins for all the ills of jaati problem. Non-brahmin priests  is the least of the reasons for the caste problem and low-hanging fruit for politicians..

 

Take the caste discussion out of this topic, this is about South Indian cinema. You bring your commie caste discussion to all topics. 

 

Sorry for the thread hihack. 

Edited August 27, 2024 by coffee_rules

[coffee_rules]

11 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Lol you really get triggered at the mention of caste discrimination.

Meant to take out the penultimate paragraph in the edit  Anyway, I had harsher words and I removed it. 
 

 

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, Vicks57 said:

 

We have discrimination based on caste.

 

Only if we eliminate discrimination, we can do away with reservation.Not the other way around.

 

1. Promoting marriage between different caste of hindus especially with Dalits.

2. Priestly duties should not be reserved to just Brahmins. Design a course for doing priestly activites and recruit from that. Anyone (hindu) can become priest.

3. Everyone is equal based on birth. This should be mentioned by every political party and anyone who supports caste superiority in any social media or any media must be punished.

 

2 - this point is already implemented in TN to some extent. It is only needed for the betterment of religion 'hinduism'

 

1 & 3 are absolutely necessary for the society.

 

 

Point 1 has started to happen now in cities..slowly but steadily.

Point 2 is also happening now. Not openly but still it's happening even in states like MP, UP slowly non Brahmins are entering as priests.

There are non brahmin students graduating every year from Maharashi Sampoornanad Sanskrit University in Varanasi which offers degree of Shastri (Graduate) & Acharya (Masters).

 

Point 3 will happen quite late. Caste is bread and butter of our political parties.

Edited August 27, 2024 by singhvivek141

[I6MTW]

Prabhas was the worst part of an otherwise great film, VFX, performance and screenplay wise. If Prabhas's Telugu style masala scenes were cut the moves would've been even better. 

 

Arshad Warsi criticized Prabhas role and performance in the film. There was nothing controversial about his speech. 

[zen]

I did not connect with the trailer so have avoided this film so far.

 

Indian films should be watched for Indian qualities. There are Hollywood films when you want to watch Hollywood type of films. There are French films when you want to watch French type of films. And so on. 
 

I also don’t see the point of some folks attacking Bollywood actors on their opinion on South films. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. People who follow Bollywood criticize Bolllywood as well. And how many give a damn if an actor from South criticizes Bollywood  

Better to discuss the film rather than irrelevant BS! 

Edited August 27, 2024 by zen

[coffee_rules]

15 hours ago, zen said:

I did not connect with the trailer so have avoided this film so far.

 

Indian films should be watched for Indian qualities. There are Hollywood films when you want to watch Hollywood type of films. There are French films when you want to watch French type of films. And so on. 
 

I also don’t see the point of some folks attacking Bollywood actors on their opinion on South films. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. People who follow Bollywood criticize Bolllywood as well. And how many give a damn if an actor from South criticizes Bollywood  

Better to discuss the film rather than irrelevant BS! 

Yes, nobody says they are not entitled to their opinion. We are also entitled to judge them based on their opinions. 

 

On Topic, the movie is much better than the trailer. The story is weaved well across the dharmic history (Mahabharata) and fictional future. People may not like the future bits. It is what it is. It is good for people who don't go for VFX alone, but  need to see some content and story as well.  I posted this in the other thread:

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Kalki Hindi on Netflix. Not a bad watch , 3 *s only. Good action and story in general, VFX not Hollywoodish, but best so far in Indian movies with all Indian jugaad. 
 

Disapponted with Hindi dialogues.  Sometimes it was cringe ultra max. They were almost like aadipurush level. They were devoid of any Sanskrit shlokas with so much references to Hindu scriptures. They deceived audiences on its take on Hindu philosophy and in their world in 2898, there is no Hinduism left.  People were like Buddhists and there is no mention of Vishnu throughout the script. Kalki is like a Jesus-like characteer or a Neo (The Matrix) who delivers people out of their misery.  It is not  connected to Hinduism at all. . Botched up the Yuga math as well, yugas are not 6000 years apart.  Except for Prabhas everyone acted well. Esp AB was super good, his best in recent times . Felt like slapping Prabhas at times got his over-acting. 

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Also, it follos the Indian TV and Film obsession with Karna being better than Arjuna. In the Vyasa bharata, Karna ia part of all crimes of Duryodhana and had to be dealt away on karmic ways. He was a vile character as well, not close to the Daanveer character weaved in Indian film stories.

 

Edited August 28, 2024 by coffee_rules

[singhvivek141]

8 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Yes, nobody says they are not entitled to their opinion. We are also entitled to judge them based on their opinions. 

 

On Topic, the movie is much better than the trailer. The story is weaved well across the dharmic history (Mahabharata) and fictional future. People may not like the future bits. It is what it is. It is good for people who don't go for VFX alone, but  need to see some content and story as well.  I posted this in the other thread:

---

Kalki Hindi on Netflix. Not a bad watch , 3 *s only. Good action and story in general, VFX not Hollywoodish, but best so far in Indian movies with all Indian jugaad. 
 

Disapponted with Hindi dialogues.  Sometimes it was cringe ultra max. They were almost like aadipurush level. They were devoid of any Sanskrit shlokas with so much references to Hindu scriptures. They deceived audiences on its take on Hindu philosophy and in their world in 2898, there is no Hinduism left.  People were like Buddhists and there is no mention of Vishnu throughout the script. Kalki is like a Jesus-like characteer or a Neo (The Matrix) who delivers people out of their misery.  It is not  connected to Hinduism at all. . Botched up the Yuga math as well, yugas are not 6000 years apart.  Except for Prabhas everyone acted well. Esp AB was super good, his best in recent times . Felt like slapping Prabhas at times got his over-acting. 

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Also, it follos the Indian TV and Film obsession with Karna being better than Arjuna. In the Vyasa bharata, Karna ia part of all crimes of Duryodhana and had to be dealt away on karmic ways. He was a vile character as well, not close to the Daanveer character weaved in Indian film stories.

 

Yup, 

Karna was a great warrior. But he had his share of flaws as well, he has been the provocator to Duryodhan as mentioned in the Valmiki Ramayan. Even for the poor Eklavya, he too was fighting from the side of Kauravas and conducted many atrocities. 

 

Ami Ganatra has capture the Karna's antics in her book. Few more popular storylines like Draupadi saying "Andhe ka beta Andha" too never happened.

[coffee_rules]

4 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Yup, 

Karna was a great warrior. But he had his share of flaws as well, he has been the provocator to Duryodhan as mentioned in the Valmiki Ramayan. Even for the poor Eklavya, he too was fighting from the side of Kauravas and conducted many atrocities. 

 

Ami Ganatra has capture the Karna's antics in her book. Few more popular storylines like Draupadi saying "Andhe ka beta Andha" too never happened.

 

Yes, Karna and Eklavyya can be called a leftist delight - they can be perfectly exploited and used in  the anti-UC and dalit atrocity litreture. Many of the missionaries have used it to set a narrative. 

 

There is an old Telugu movie - Daana Veers Shoora Karna where it is shown Draupadi even having her likeness for Karna and says she would have preferred him as a 6th husband (not exactly on those lines!) !! 

[mishra]

Watched the movie. Liked the plot. 4/5.

[singhvivek141]

2 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

 

Yes, Karna and Eklavyya can be called a leftist delight - they can be perfectly exploited and used in  the anti-UC and dalit atrocity litreture. Many of the missionaries have used it to set a narrative. 

 

There is an old Telugu movie - Daana Veers Shoora Karna where it is shown Draupadi even having her likeness for Karna and says she would have preferred him as a 6th husband (not exactly on those lines!) !! 

 

Even in Hindi serials, there are shows like Maharathi Karna where he is shown as some legendary warrior who always followed the rule of Dharma and stuck to his friend no matter what. In reality, he was not much different than Duryodhan.

[Singh bling]

4 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Yup, 

Karna was a great warrior. But he had his share of flaws as well, he has been the provocator to Duryodhan as mentioned in the Valmiki Ramayan. Even for the poor Eklavya, he too was fighting from the side of Kauravas and conducted many atrocities. 

 

Ami Ganatra has capture the Karna's antics in her book. Few more popular storylines like Draupadi saying "Andhe ka beta Andha" too never happened.

Valmiki Ramayana mein Karna Kahan se aa gaya 

[Lord]

On 7/9/2024 at 9:53 AM, Lone Wolf said:

Aayein

 

 

Watched the movie. Never knew I was from Odisha/Bihar 

 

To avoid Southie's rage, I must mentioned that I loved RRR and Bahubali

[coffee_rules]

45 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

Valmiki Ramayana mein Karna Kahan se aa gaya 

He means Vyasa Bharata - Samjha kar paaji..

[coffee_rules]

46 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Watched the movie. Never knew I was from Odisha/Bihar 

 

To avoid Southie's rage, I must mentioned that I loved RRR and Bahubali

 

Will call you Bihari babu  from here on. What's there not to understand in this movie? 

[singhvivek141]

8 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Watched the movie. Never knew I was from Odisha/Bihar 

 

To avoid Southie's rage, I must mentioned that I loved RRR and Bahubali

Welcome to Bhojpuri club.

Garda uda denge 

[singhvivek141]

8 hours ago, Singh bling said:

Valmiki Ramayana mein Karna Kahan se aa gaya 

Maharishi Ved Vyas bhai.

 

Sundarkand ka path sun raha tha..subconscious me Ram ji ghum rahe they likhte time.

[Lone Wolf]

12 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

 

Even in Hindi serials, there are shows like Maharathi Karna where he is shown as some legendary warrior who always followed the rule of Dharma and stuck to his friend no matter what. In reality, he was not much different than Duryodhan.

The older Mahabharata on TV showed that Karna was no saint & was full of jealousy and stuff & at best a grey character like Duryodhana.

The newer one made him sort of a cult hero, tragedy king & made audience sympathetic towards him.

[Singh bling]

4 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

The older Mahabharata on TV showed that Karna was no saint & was full of jealousy and stuff & at best a grey character like Duryodhana.

The newer one made him sort of a cult hero, tragedy king & made audience sympathetic towards him.

If you had seen Sri Krishna of Ramanand sagar it showed Karna was defeated by Bheem on the day of jaydrath vadh . B R Chopra showed Karna giving jeevan daan to bhima. 

 

Another error was it showed arjuna was about to get killed from nagastra while in Sri Krishna it was Ashwasena naag made alliance with Karna to kill Arjun.

 

Another difference was ghatotkach entered war on 14th day but sacred texts and Ramanand sagar showed him fighting from first day.

[cowboysfan]

If i cannot finish a trailer then there is no chance i am watching that movie.