Vicks57 Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 7 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Will India adopt all the Hindus if they come to India? Nope. That is why it is important to keep the neighbouring nations from devolving into a rogue state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ravishingravi Posted November 1 Author Share Posted November 1 (edited) When I watched WWE as a child, I really did believe that Undertaker is rising from the dead. Then I grew up. And then there was reality TV. And I thought what if this country completely loses touch of what is reality and reality tv. That is trump phenomena. One can cry but one can also laugh. To see them so unhinged and not bothering to even appear to be good people, as a politician, is amazing. Edited November 1 by ravishingravi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 (edited) 22 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: I am not talking about just Indians. Talking about people from other countries who are not necessarily whites. H1B vis was created to fill the gaps in the IT industry. Not for providing a path for citizenship. Both have different rules. Our expectation is to bend the citizenship rules to match H1b visa rules. Our expectation is to do which every single immigrant community does - to bend the rules and not break them, to benefit our people. What H1b was established for, is a gora yankee issue. What our issue is, is how to use H1b to legitimately benefit Indians and India and if it comes at no actual cost to US economics, soney pe suhaaga. Which we are doing. What people from other countries do, is their business. We are Indians, we are subject to scenarios that benefit/dont benefit indians in the western world and that is our main motivation. As it should be. Immigration is a dirty game, always has been and always will be. Get used to it. No society ever waits around for orderly immigrating to a foreign land and does it successfully, unless its their govt that did conquering of the said land they are immigrating to by force and is controlling the system beurocratically. We are in it, for benefit to us and india first, not to america first. Since we are not absolute barbarians like some people, we simply take the 'we do what benefits us and india and doesnt directly harm murrica' as the maximum to be expected of us. And your gungadeen-ing wont change that. Hindus and Indians need to learn the simple rule of power in western democracies from minorities that do weild power in said democracies - whether its benevolent snooty power like the Chinese or Jews or its malignant like the Islamics or Khalistanis - your vote & policy alignment is ALWAYS 'whats in it for me and my people'first and foremost, with zero compromise in that issue and your voice will be heard. If you dont think in terms of me and mine, your voices wont matter. Edited November 1 by Muloghonto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
construction430 Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 On 10/31/2024 at 1:39 PM, BacktoCricaddict said: circa Jan 20 2025 DJT's Sec of State to DJT: Mr. President, you remember that Bangladesh thing you were going to fix? I brought a world map ... you see that red circle I put? That's Bangladesh. Can momma Kamala point it out without help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianRenegade Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 On 10/31/2024 at 9:30 AM, vvvslaxman said: Biden beat Trump in Michigan by 154000 votes or so. This was when Trump had mishandled COVID and he was indicted. Now with muslim votes alone 150000. That number will go down this time for Kamala. There are many Indians not happy with how they handled Israel conflict. THey won't vote. Even blacks are divided on this issue. So chunk of votes will be lost. If she loses to some third party candidate she can squeak through. Imagine half those votes go to Trump. Besides Kamala's popularity has never been measured truly. Last time she exited way early. This time came through back door. It is going to be a perfect storm for her. Above all a woman will never be elected in USA as president. Very myopic way to look at it. if you exclusively look at factors that hurt one candidate one can make any candidate look bad. there are 200k registered muslims in MI, around 146k voted, Polls suggest that in 2020 biden won them by 70% or 105k voters. Polls now indicate 42/41% support between Harris & Stien, with support for trump seeing little change. So can she make up the 40k votes from somewhere else? maybe she can't or may be she can. What else is driving ppl to polls this time? you seem to forget how the so-called red wave in 2022 fueled by anger over immigration & economy was turned into to red ripple because of anger over roe vs wade. Polls are indicating this is still driving voters, women are outpacing men in early votes by double digits, polls also suggest among early voters kamala is beating trump by double digits. They are also suggesting enthusiasm among Dems seem to rival that of 2008 Obama run. We hear this story of black voters flocking to trump every election cycle only for post-election analysis to show there wasn't any such move. Can she still lose? of course! but it is not the slam dunk you are making it out to be. ravishingravi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted November 2 Author Share Posted November 2 (edited) Normally it's symbolic of dysfunctional society and dysfunctional democracy if someone can get to the highest office without doing or knowing anything. That's Kamala Harris. She literally hasn't won anything in her life and can't speak for 5 min without word salad. Fact that 50% of population is going to turn up and vote for her tells you as much as you need to know about where US is on the curve of great empires. If Kamala wins, its great news for India and the world. Fun stuff coming out way. Edited November 2 by ravishingravi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vicks57 Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 2 hours ago, ravishingravi said: JD Vance is part of "Theoboys". Read up on it. Usha made this non-religious man into a Christian man. Usha is a willing participant and she is an embarrassment to South Asians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 11 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: JD Vance is part of "Theoboys". Read up on it. Usha made this non-religious man into a Christian man. Usha is a willing participant and she is an embarrassment to South Asians. Why does that matter to us ? Vance can be the pope for all i care, that is not relevant to indians or indo-americans in our interests calculus, particularly us hindus. ravishingravi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 If Trump is elected i assume Vivek and Tulsi get roles?Sent from my SM-S928B using Tapatalk ravishingravi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted November 2 Author Share Posted November 2 38 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: JD Vance is part of "Theoboys". Read up on it. Usha made this non-religious man into a Christian man. Usha is a willing participant and she is an embarrassment to South Asians. You must be privy to Vance family ongoings. So the family or one of their family friends told you that Usha made him go back to Christianity. What can I say. ICB folks definitely seem to have more proximity to power than we imagined. Vicks57 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted November 2 Author Share Posted November 2 27 minutes ago, G_B_ said: If Trump is elected i assume Vivek and Tulsi get roles? Sent from my SM-S928B using Tapatalk Most likely Tulsi. Vivek not sure. Trump and Vance have better sense. Vivek might just hog more limelight and try to outshine these two. Unless he takes over Vance's role. Vicks57 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted November 2 Author Share Posted November 2 31 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Why does that matter to us ? Vance can be the pope for all i care, that is not relevant to indians or indo-americans in our interests calculus, particularly us hindus. Us "South Asians" you mean. Btw hope all you South Asians enjoyed Diwali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicks57 Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 3 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: You must be privy to Vance family ongoings. So the family or one of their family friends told you that Usha made him go back to Christianity. What can I say. ICB folks definitely seem to have more proximity to power than we imagined. Go read up 'Hillbilly Elegy' written by JD Vance himself. Atleast watch some YouTube video on what he has written on his book. Man, I bet you don't even know he has a book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicks57 Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 44 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Why does that matter to us ? Vance can be the pope for all i care, that is not relevant to indians or indo-americans in our interests calculus, particularly us hindus. Yep. I am very much concerned about Indian Origin women marrying white christian nationalists. Says a lot about the power structure. Sends a wrong message to the Indian community as a whole. Nikki haley, Bobby Jindal are white adjacent republicans. They changed their name and religion just to be in republican party. They are married to white spouses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 11 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: Yep. I am very much concerned about Indian Origin women marrying white christian nationalists. Says a lot about the power structure. Sends a wrong message to the Indian community as a whole. Nikki haley, Bobby Jindal are white adjacent republicans. They changed their name and religion just to be in republican party. They are married to white spouses. how does that concern translate to the candidates ? Coz christian nationalists rarely marry hindu indian women. I dont care for your bullshit gender messages, i care more about actual policy difference for indians and hindus. its trump who said 'stop hindu genocide in bangladesh'. not kamala. So i would rather take the message of those who want to help us more in real terms than your fictitious 'docile ugly desi chick with ugly white nationalist christoid' nonsense. Nobody cares for Nikki Haley or Bobby Jindal either. We care for the fact that for 30+ years, hindus and indians in general have benefitted more under republican president than democrat presidents and sanctions on India itself from dumbocrats vs removal from reps itself makes this a no contest, nevermind republican vs demcrat position on pakistan, H1b, Ivy league reservation quotas, etc. This matters more to me and hindus than your 'they are christoid nationalists, kamala is not'(even though she is islamist adjacent and has clear cut said will interfere more in Kashmir against us). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicks57 Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 3 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: how does that concern translate to the candidates ? Coz christian nationalists rarely marry hindu indian women. I dont care for your bullshit gender messages, i care more about actual policy difference for indians and hindus. its trump who said 'stop hindu genocide in bangladesh'. not kamala. So i would rather take the message of those who want to help us more in real terms than your fictitious 'docile ugly desi chick with ugly white nationalist christoid' nonsense. Nobody cares for Nikki Haley or Bobby Jindal either. We care for the fact that for 30+ years, hindus and indians in general have benefitted more under republican president than democrat presidents and sanctions on India itself from dumbocrats vs removal from reps itself makes this a no contest, nevermind republican vs demcrat position on pakistan, H1b, Ivy league reservation quotas, etc. This matters more to me and hindus than your 'they are christoid nationalists, kamala is not'(even though she is islamist adjacent and has clear cut said will interfere more in Kashmir against us). Foreign policy will be equally bad to India irrespective of the party in power. It is controlled by the establishment. Good on Trump to talk about Bangla hindus. But it will be just that if establishment wants to create a military base in bangla land. Nothing is gonna happen. Kamala is also part of establishment. I mean Dick Cheney backs her. A lot of republicans back her. Democratic and Republican party only differ in domestic policies. Foreign policy is 90 percent same. Pro-Israel, Destabilisation of democracies, backing autocracies for the benefit of American. Industrialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicks57 Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: So i would rather take the message of those who want to help us more in real terms than your fictitious 'docile ugly desi chick with ugly white nationalist christoid' nonsense. Where did you get this 'docile ugly desi chick with ugly white nationalist christoid'? A weird tangent you are going on about my statement. Edited November 2 by Vicks57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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