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40 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

He just announced that voter id will be made compulsary nationally...

Lol gavin newscum....



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Gavin is not needed. They can get this passed. They have house and senate. Otherwise there will be more of this. 

 

20% higher votes in 2020 vs 2016. 7% lower votes in 2024 vs 2020. If it was India, you would have said sham democracy. 

 

 

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Trump can do it for a federal election (voter id) without permission. People say he can attach riders to federal programs/spending to ensure that states are forced to follow and also put in riders for interstate commerce.

It will be a much more calibrated approach.










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Posted
14 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

Yeah that dem vote is a scam

Biden got 80 million votes and obama and kamala got 65 ish.

Republicans got caught napping in 2020.


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Trump has 2 million fewer votes than he got in 2020. There are multiple legitimate explanations for all of this, but it is hard to convince those who are already convinced (with no evidence) that there was widespread fraud:

 

2020 vote counts, but not 2024 vote counts, are complete.

More people stayed home

 

There is a thin line between being skeptical and being conspiratorial. And many conspiracy theorists think they are skeptics, but they are already convinced of the reason some things happened.

 

 

 

Posted
14 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Democrats are sore losers. Looks like Repubs are being sore winners :-)!!

 

Yea.. apart from minor things like insurrection, badgering poll workers no other outrage from republicans. It is always funny that republicans talk about melt down when they had the historical melt down in 2020 which even cost lives.

Posted
44 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Trump has 2 million fewer votes than he got in 2020. There are multiple legitimate explanations for all of this, but it is hard to convince those who are already convinced (with no evidence) that there was widespread fraud:

 

2020 vote counts, but not 2024 vote counts, are complete.

More people stayed home

 

There is a thin line between being skeptical and being conspiratorial. And many conspiracy theorists think they are skeptics, but they are already convinced of the reason some things happened.

 

 

 

 

See a delta of 2 million can be explained.

 

How do you go from 65 million for hillary to 85 million for biden in 2020 to  65 million for kamala in 8 years? 

 

You look at trump in 2016, 2020 and 2024 he has steadily increased his votes in millions.

 

I am not even a republican or live in the usa. 

 

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So trump got

 

63 million in 2016

74 million in 2020

74 million in 2024

 

Dems got

 

65 million in 2016

81 million in 2020

66 million in 2024

 

 

Posted
12 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

So trump got

 

63 million in 2016

74 million in 2020

74 million in 2024

 

Dems got

 

65 million in 2016

81 million in 2020

66 million in 2024

 

 

After all the counting, It might come down to around 10 million stayed home and didn’t mail in votes as well. Hoax more plausible than the Moon landing!!!

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To put it in context

 

Bjp got

 

174 million in 2014

225 million in 2019

235 million in 2024

 

Considering the expanding electorate and wins etc it makes perfect sense. Bjp contested about same number of seats.

 

 

 

 

 

Posted
4 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

To put it in context

 

Bjp got

 

174 million in 2014

225 million in 2019

235 million in 2024

 

Considering the expanding electorate and wins etc it makes perfect sense. Bjp contested about same number of seats.

 

 

 

 

 

Dems are like…

 

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Posted
53 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

So trump got

 

63 million in 2016

74 million in 2020

74 million in 2024

 

Dems got

 

65 million in 2016

81 million in 2020

66 million in 2024

 

 

 

Something tells me Trump is going to come back to 2020 election.  Don't know how I missed such gaping hole. This is just in your face. 

Posted

Trump lost 3 million votes possibly mail-in votes. Votes from Biden would have switched to Trump. So he should have increased in that case. Iwhy would you not do mail-in votes and also stop turning in on election day. The courts have to open this case. 

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Right wing conspiracy theories are unparalleled. Just whinging without any proof without going into voter turnout.  Several law suits filed several countings done. But redumblicans keep on parroting the same old conspiracy theory. THey certainly deserved to win this time as Dems failed several people. But saying they lost due to rigged election is the languag eof ultimate sore losers

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-check-trumps-2024-win-doesnt-prove-claims-that-the-2020-election-was-stolen

Posted (edited)
31 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

@Austin 3:!6 why was chaos banned and not mologhonto?


That Mulo acts like a BJP rep threatening and insulting South Indians esp. from states where BJP is not in power (BJP is probably not even aware that such folks exist).
 

ICF should be politics neutral. 
 

 

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Posted (edited)
33 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Right wing conspiracy theories are unparalleled. Just whinging without any proof without going into voter turnout.  Several law suits filed several countings done. But redumblicans keep on parroting the same old conspiracy theory. THey certainly deserved to win this time as Dems failed several people. But saying they lost due to rigged election is the languag eof ultimate sore losers

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-check-trumps-2024-win-doesnt-prove-claims-that-the-2020-election-was-stolen

Nothing was proven in 2020, that I get. But the explanations given in the article for additional 15 million votes is all looking like conspiracy theory. Likely not voted, independents, voted for Trump etc. Need to analyze this issue in the presence of new data - polled votes in 24 looks closer to 16, but 2020 has too many votes in total!! You just can’t say this without hard data

 

Shifts in vote totals from election to election do not signal fraud, experts said

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