vvvslaxman Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 These kind of theories were not mainstream until Trump took control of GOP. Anyone who opposed Trump's opinions were vilified. They were targeted. IN order to please him they had to invent theories of fraud.
coffee_rules Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 2 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: They are not stupid, Anna. But, in speaking with homeless people, or people who are working multiple jobs to keep food on the table, or my students whose families lost everything in a natural disaster, I have come to realize that things we take for granted are not a given for millions. The federal govt has to facilitate even basic things. Maybe the thing to do is to take a picture during registration, and then when you show up to vote, scan your face and use AI to match. That way, the burden of ID'ing is shifted to the govt and not the voter. If 3rd world countries like India can figure it out, I am sure a first world country like US can. Just get those votes who didn’t ID as provisional ballots and count them only if needed before calling. And we have to do something about this AP calling. A stupid system that causes situations like 2000, 2004, 2020 or to carrot top candidates like DJT who says they won’t concede. Get a new Federal board of elections, it’s about time. Instead of stupid federal organizations like USCIRF . Defund such organizations and have a common election body
coffee_rules Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: These kind of theories were not mainstream until Trump took control of GOP. Anyone who opposed Trump's opinions were vilified. They were targeted. IN order to please him they had to invent theories of fraud. Voter fraud and voter suppression has been in the news even in the 90s, not a Trump thing
vvvslaxman Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 1 minute ago, coffee_rules said: Voter fraud and voter suppression has been in the news even in the 90s, not a Trump thing Voter suppression caes filed well before the election not after the results. It doesn't depend on who wins. It just makes sure maximum people vote without hassle. Voter fraud claim is candidate being unable to handle the defeat. Any other candidate who lost by that big margin would concede the election. Not blame only 5 or 6 states he lost for fraud while ignoring the states he won. Second one led to insurrection, disturbance to democratic process of vote counting where they had both democratic and republicans working. He even influenced one person not to certify win. He tried to influence Mike Pence not to certify election victory to Biden. He threatened him with the words "It would be a career killer". His abuse of power was unheard of. Thankfully honest republicans did not budge.
rkt.india Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 14 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Yes it is practically impossible to implement this without disenfranchising millions of voters. Republicans know it too. What? In India, we have voter id for years. You can't vote without voter ID. coffee_rules 1
ravishingravi Posted November 10, 2024 Author Posted November 10, 2024 17 minutes ago, rkt.india said: What? In India, we have voter id for years. You can't vote without voter ID. US is complex. National ID or voter ID is not non controversial subject.
vvvslaxman Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 11 minutes ago, rkt.india said: What? In India, we have voter id for years. You can't vote without voter ID. There is a good chance India is disenfranchising voters with so many people living below poverty line.
rkt.india Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 16 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: There is a good chance India is disenfranchising voters with so many people living below poverty line. It's simple. If you have voter ID, you are eligible to vote. If not, bye bye. Despite poverty, we still get more voter turnout than US. In fact, poor people voter turnout is more than rich. Vicks57 and coffee_rules 1 1
BacktoCricaddict Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 55 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Just get those votes who didn’t ID as provisional ballots While those are being counted, we will keep hearing this: coffee_rules 1
vvvslaxman Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 33 minutes ago, rkt.india said: It's simple. If you have voter ID, you are eligible to vote. If not, bye bye. Despite poverty, we still get more voter turnout than US. In fact, poor people voter turnout is more than rich. Not sure about migrant workers being able to vote. https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/13/india/india-elections-migrant-workers-voting-intl-hnk-dst/index.html
BacktoCricaddict Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 On 11/8/2024 at 9:14 AM, mishra said: All said and done, I want Pompeo back in same role as he was in previous Trump administration. DJT just issued a statement saying neither Pompeo nor Haley will be invited to the cabinet mishra 1
rkt.india Posted November 11, 2024 Posted November 11, 2024 15 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Not sure about migrant workers being able to vote. https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/13/india/india-elections-migrant-workers-voting-intl-hnk-dst/index.html You don't get 100% turn out anyway.
Stan AF Posted November 11, 2024 Posted November 11, 2024 (edited) 17 hours ago, coffee_rules said: And we have to do something about this AP calling. A stupid system that causes situations like 2000, 2004, 2020 or to carrot top candidates like DJT who says they won’t concede. Get a new Federal board of elections, it’s about time. Instead of stupid federal organizations like USCIRF . Defund such organizations and have a common election body Yeah that sounded weird to me as well. What is a media house doing calling an election victory when it is supposed to be a federal government agencies job. Edited November 11, 2024 by Stan AF coffee_rules 1
Stan AF Posted November 11, 2024 Posted November 11, 2024 17 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: There is a good chance India is disenfranchising voters with so many people living below poverty line. That is a slim chance. More than the educated affluent voters the poor ones vote far more rigorously. It's the ones who are well off that are too lazy to vote. coffee_rules and velu 2
Stan AF Posted November 11, 2024 Posted November 11, 2024 And anyways india does a decent job of polling close to 60-65%
velu Posted November 11, 2024 Posted November 11, 2024 8 hours ago, Stan AF said: That is a slim chance. More than the educated affluent voters the poor ones vote far more rigorously. It's the ones who are well off that are too lazy to vote. 200% agree Vicks57 1
coffee_rules Posted November 11, 2024 Posted November 11, 2024 Hope, hype, excitement, anxiety, despair, melancholy and finally wrist slitting. All emotions on MSLSD on election day
bowl_out Posted November 11, 2024 Posted November 11, 2024 16 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: DJT just issued a statement saying neither Pompeo nor Haley will be invited to the cabinet What about Tulsi?
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