Frustrated Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 6 minutes ago, Lord said: The catch was clean but the boundary cushions had been moved. Surya crossed the boundary line but didn't touch the cushions. If I was SA fan, I'd be pissed Boundary cushions were not moved by SKY or any other Indian fielder. If they had done, it would hv been caught on camera. Most probably the cushions were at the same position when Ind batted as well. So, it's same for both teams. Moreover, there are times when the boundary line is invisible, especially on grounds with lush green outfields (viz: NZ, Eng, SA). It is the rope which decides the outcome, not the boundary line. Norman 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 Just now, Frustrated said: Boundary cushions were not moved by SKY or any other Indian fielder. If they had done, it would hv been caught on camera. Most probably the cushions were at the same position when Ind batted as well. So, it's same for both teams. Moreover, there are times when the boundary line is invisible, especially on grounds with lush green outfields (viz: NZ, Eng, SA). It is the rope which decides the outcome, not the boundary line. Then its incompetence by ICC, cushions should be same place as the line. The rope is under the cushions AFAIK Link to comment
goose Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 i dont care about the the toblerone being out of position, that is unfortunate but can happen. i don't even care if the foot marginally touched, we know even technology can lead to different conclusions from the same footage. what disappointed me most was kettleborough omitting to check or zoom in from a better angle. Frustrated 1 Link to comment
diga Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 28 minutes ago, goose said: i dont care about the the toblerone being out of position, that is unfortunate but can happen. i don't even care if the foot marginally touched, we know even technology can lead to different conclusions from the same footage. what disappointed me most was kettleborough omitting to check or zoom in from a better angle. in the 90s people could lean against the booundary billboards in Aus and take catches... that was legal Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 (edited) Shaun Pollock says the catch was clean. If the cushion were moved during the course of the game , ICC needs to clarify the reason. Edited July 1, 2024 by coffee_rules Ultimate_Game and Frustrated 2 Link to comment
goose Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 4 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: isn't there some requirement to declare a parody account. that's not the real kettleborough surely! (who was 3rd umpire for the catch) Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 11 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Shaun Pollock says the catch was clean. If the cushion were moved during the course of the game , ICC needs to clarify the reason. The cushion was moved before the game, not during. See posts above. Link to comment
neel roy Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 I am again repeating for all. Boundary ropes and cushions are pushed in and out based on the position of pitch. This match was centre pitch and last match in same ground was a pitch to the right. So rightfully the cushion and rope was pushed further to ensure dimensions are fine. The white line you see is the remnants of the last match rope impressions. Frustrated and Ultimate_Game 2 Link to comment
figo6762 Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 Shut this nonsense … was reviewed and given out .. you lose some and you win some .. Link to comment
Chaos Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 1 minute ago, figo6762 said: Shut this nonsense … was reviewed and given out .. you lose some and you win some .. Kya ree who r u? Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 25 minutes ago, goose said: isn't there some requirement to declare a parody account. that's not the real kettleborough surely! (who was 3rd umpire for the catch) He’s not posting as an umpire. Bio says sports fan. he happens to have the same name Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 22 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: The cushion was moved before the game, not during. See posts above. I was only repeating what he is saying. He thinks it was moved back during course of the game Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 5 hours ago, Lord said: The catch was clean but the boundary cushions had been moved. Surya crossed the boundary line but didn't touch the cushions. If I was SA fan, I'd be pissed https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/shaun-pollock-shuts-conspiracy-theory-behind-suryakumar-yadav-catch-in-t20wc-final-cushion-had-moved-but-101719814103818.html Similar incidents have happened multiple times before especially with Pak players: https://www.wisden.com/series/icc-mens-cricket-world-cup-2023-24/cricket-news/explained-why-imam-ul-haq-kusal-mendis-catch-legal-fielder-falling-original-boundary-marking-cwc-2023 In the above case also, ICC confirmed that the boundary had been moved for the entirety of the match. So it could be similar in the Ind SA final. Also, SKY can only judge catch based on where the boundary cushion is for him. He took the catch at hip height, it wasn't at head height. So if the boundary cushion was a few cm in, he would have adjusted accordingly taking it few cm above near his head. Ultimate_Game and bowl_out 2 Link to comment
Number Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 22 minutes ago, neel roy said: I am again repeating for all. Boundary ropes and cushions are pushed in and out based on the position of pitch. This match was centre pitch and last match in same ground was a pitch to the right. So rightfully the cushion and rope was pushed further to ensure dimensions are fine. The white line you see is the remnants of the last match rope impressions. True. This is World Cup 2023 Pak vs SL match in Hyderabad. Imam took Mendis's catch. Many Indian fans were pissed on this claiming conspiracy that Pakistani fielders are pushing boundary ropes. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment
neel roy Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 The only way to reduce controversies in terms of touching the cushion padding is having zing cushions which will light up if you touch it. But it ll be damm expensive to have that as it ll have to be a kilometre long. Link to comment
Chaos Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 15 minutes ago, Forever Indian said: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/shaun-pollock-shuts-conspiracy-theory-behind-suryakumar-yadav-catch-in-t20wc-final-cushion-had-moved-but-101719814103818.html Similar incidents have happened multiple times before especially with Pak players: https://www.wisden.com/series/icc-mens-cricket-world-cup-2023-24/cricket-news/explained-why-imam-ul-haq-kusal-mendis-catch-legal-fielder-falling-original-boundary-marking-cwc-2023 In the above case also, ICC confirmed that the boundary had been moved for the entirety of the match. So it could be similar in the Ind SA final. Also, SKY can only judge catch based on where the boundary cushion is for him. He took the catch at hip height, it wasn't at head height. So if the boundary cushion was a few cm in, he would have adjusted accordingly taking it few cm above near his head. hellloooooo Link to comment
Teengunalagaan Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 19 hours ago, bowl_out said: This bothered me more than the catch being clean or not. IMO catch was clean, there was nothing to suggest that he touched the boundary line. The small whiff that you refer to seemed like grass scraping off and not contact, because the boundary line didn't move one millimeter. But how did the boundary line itself move before the catch was taken? I noticed this real time too.. Nothing to suggest the fielder did anything, but this shady stuff will always keep pooks busy. Well, don't be bothered... bowl_out 1 Link to comment
Chaos Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 3 minutes ago, Teengunalagaan said: Well, don't be bothered... bro that is one crazy username, what does it mean? Link to comment
Laaloo Posted July 1, 2024 Author Share Posted July 1, 2024 6 hours ago, Lord said: The catch was clean but the boundary cushions had been moved. Surya crossed the boundary line but didn't touch the cushions. If I was SA fan, I'd be pissed Yup. And all these Indian fans saying it wasn't a big deal, I wonder how they would feel if the shoe was in the other foot. Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 8 minutes ago, Laaloo said: Yup. And all these Indian fans saying it wasn't a big deal, I wonder how they would feel if the shoe was in the other foot. Boss, read the rest of this thread. There is enough evidence that the cushions were moved before the match. People are clutching at straws here. Ultimate_Game and coffee_rules 2 Link to comment
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