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[Ultimate_Game]

Axar has been someone who makes the team better than the sum of its parts. Axar and Pandya give them the depth which they lacked previously. Also Iyer has been pretty solid and even KL Rahul seemed better when playing alongside Iyer, Axar and Pandya.

[Lord]

Just now, Ultimate_Game said:

Axar has been someone who makes the team better than the sum of its parts. Axar and Pandya give them the depth which they lacked previously. Also Iyer has been pretty solid and even KL Rahul seemed better when playing alongside Iyer, Axar and Pandya.

 

KL at 5 would still fail imo. He flourished in a limited role where he didnt have to think much

[Nikhil_cric]

He is alright in ODI's but it's in T20's that he is absolutely world class. 

[Ultimate_Game]

11 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

KL at 5 would still fail imo. He flourished in a limited role where he didnt have to think much

 

Axar owns the no. 5 spot now. that spot should go to someone like Parag or Nitish Reddy later so that an all-rounder cna slot in at 5 and do what Axar does.

[diga]

4 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Axar owns the no. 5 spot now. that spot should go to someone like Parag or Nitish Reddy later so that an all-rounder cna slot in at 5 and do what Axar does.

Axar's USP is that he is a left hander and he plays at a good strike rate.... We need atleast 2 left handers in top 7 and also a left arm pace bowling option in addition to Arshdeep 

[Ultimate_Game]

6 minutes ago, diga said:

Axar's USP is that he is a left hander and he plays at a good strike rate.... We need atleast 2 left handers in top 7 and also a left arm pace bowling option in addition to Arshdeep 

 

If we bring in like sof Jaiswal (to replace Rohit), and Sai Sudarshan (in place of Kohli), we don't necessarily need no. 5 slot to be a leftie. We need a leftie now coz our top order are all righties. But not with Jaiswal and say Sai in the mix. Then we can go ahead with Parag (on spin friendly surfaces) or Nitish (in seam friendly conditions).

[diga]

8 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

If we bring in like sof Jaiswal (to replace Rohit), and Sai Sudarshan (in place of Kohli), we don't necessarily need no. 5 slot to be a leftie. We need a leftie now coz our top order are all righties. But not with Jaiswal and say Sai in the mix. Then we can go ahead with Parag (on spin friendly surfaces) or Nitish (in seam friendly conditions).

Yep... that depends on the retirements of Rohit & Kohli unfortunately

[Ultimate_Game]

1 minute ago, diga said:

Yep... that depends on the retirements of Rohit & Kohli unfortunately

 

At least one of them has to be moved along to bring in Jaiswal. Can't have someone like Jaiswal, who could be a better version of Rachin waiting on the sidelines forever.

[raki05]

Axar is very good and done some important partnership in mo when match was on hinge and could have gone either way that too in icc kos be it ct or wt20. But both Iyer and Axar need to learn finishing up the game. In both sf and final they threw it away when we were in complete command but credit to them to bring us out from precarious situation. Other than these 2 , i would like to have Riyan and NKR as well in MO. Riyan and NKR if set can destroy opposition to pulp but they need to show guts of Iyer and Axar initially in crunch situation. Gawd i still mourn Iyer wkt in wc , had he performed partnership with kohli in wc final we would have scored around 280-290 in final easily.

Edited March 11 by raki05

[tapandrun]

Questions :

• playing at no.5 on a v.good day(for him) how much can he score in Odis??
• What is the flooring and ceiling of a good #5 batter, is he there and there about to be long term solution ?? 
• Is there any1 better than him to replace him ???

Edited March 11 by tapandrun

[vvvslaxman]

On 3/10/2025 at 9:43 AM, diga said:

Axar's USP is that he is a left hander and he plays at a good strike rate.... We need atleast 2 left handers in top 7 and also a left arm pace bowling option in addition to Arshdeep 

Insanely good under pressure. The catch of Mitch Marsh in the world T20 was a stunner.

[Nikhil_cric]

He has helped us win the middle overs spin battle in LOI cricket which has been crucial in both World T20 and Champions Trophy. 

 

Until 2-3 years ago, we used to keep getting beaten in that phase where the likes of Kohli and co. could never successfully attack Shadab and Nawaz whereas Chahal would be hit by their batters(Asia Cup 2022 for example )

 

Not only has he given us overall batting depth but he is probably the best defensive spinner in T20 cricket and one of the best in ODI cricket.

 

Also our best attacking batter against middle overs spin like he showed in the World T20 when Kohli was struggling against Markram.

 

In ODIs post 2023 , he has 40/90 stats against middle overs spin whereas the rest of our batting line up strikes at 80 and under.

 

 

[Suhaan]

15 hours ago, raki05 said:

Gawd i still mourn Iyer wkt in wc , had he performed partnership with kohli in wc final we would have scored around 280-290 in final easily.

Had two of them stayed ,not  290 we could have posted  315-320 ,and could have done with the match there itself

That final should not have been lost,never

 

[diga]

9 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

He has helped us win the middle overs spin battle in LOI cricket which has been crucial in both World T20 and Champions Trophy. 

 

Until 2-3 years ago, we used to keep getting beaten in that phase where the likes of Kohli and co. could never successfully attack Shadab and Nawaz whereas Chahal would be hit by their batters(Asia Cup 2022 for example )

 

Not only has he given us overall batting depth but he is probably the best defensive spinner in T20 cricket and one of the best in ODI cricket.

 

Also our best attacking batter against middle overs spin like he showed in the World T20 when Kohli was struggling against Markram.

 

In ODIs post 2023 , he has 40/90 stats against middle overs spin whereas the rest of our batting line up strikes at 80 and under.

 

 

Whoever decided to promote Axar to no-5 made a very good decision

[Nikhil_cric]

1 hour ago, diga said:

Whoever decided to promote Axar to no-5 made a very good decision

Shows that in modern white ball cricket , a complete side needs at least 2 aggressive left handers - an opener and a middle overs spin hitter.  

 

 

[CoverDrive]

Axar has high ceiling with batting. he is one Batman who I remember contributing to most of his innings across all formats. He has played match saving innings in even tests so he needs to be given lot more chances maybe even at the expense of a batsmen if needed. 

 

Move to play him up the order has been very good and potentially title winning. He has forced the opposition on back foot when they are attacking on helpful tracks with left arm spinners which somehow our top order batsmen especially Kohli struggles. Maharaj took two wickets in the T20 WC final very early and then they did not even bowl him out. Here also Ravindra and Santner were choking the runs along with Bracewell. Axar changed that. He makes decisive blows like hitting that 6 to Santner same over Iyer got out. That breaks the opposition plan.

 

 

[Ultimate_Game]

2 hours ago, CoverDrive said:

Axar has high ceiling with batting. he is one Batman who I remember contributing to most of his innings across all formats. He has played match saving innings in even tests so he needs to be given lot more chances maybe even at the expense of a batsmen if needed. 

 

Move to play him up the order has been very good and potentially title winning. He has forced the opposition on back foot when they are attacking on helpful tracks with left arm spinners which somehow our top order batsmen especially Kohli struggles. Maharaj took two wickets in the T20 WC final very early and then they did not even bowl him out. Here also Ravindra and Santner were choking the runs along with Bracewell. Axar changed that. He makes decisive blows like hitting that 6 to Santner same over Iyer got out. That breaks the opposition plan.

 

 

 

 

Axar is similar to Raina. These players are extremely underrated and are the glue which holds the team together. They do the tough asks such as going for it ball one or taking a role which others shy from. Sometimes they have to sacrifice their stats and a number of time they take one for the team. But these are the players who help win tournies.

 

Kudos to likes of Axar and Raina who've generally been the unsung heroes of Indian cricket and they'll never get the crdit and fan following they deserve. Their contribution is sometimes even more important than the stars but they fly under the radar 

[Lord]

[singhvivek141]

44 minutes ago, Lord said:

Others be like

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