Bumrah vs McGrath

[Nikhil_cric]

On 7/5/2024 at 10:08 PM, Lord said:

McGrath always performed in big games

McGrath also had a ridiculously strong batting lineup until 7 to back him up. 

 

I still think he was the greatest bowler ever but it's unfair to Bumrah when our lower order has been full of frauds since 2013 ish. 

 

[Kron]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

McGrath also had a ridiculously strong batting lineup until 7 to back him up. 

 

I still think he was the greatest bowler ever but it's unfair to Bumrah when our lower order has been full of frauds since 2013 ish. 

 

Withour mcgrath they were really nothing special. India drew in 2002 when mcgrath dint play. And India weren't at their peak strength in those days yet for test cricket. 

 

So for me mcgrath was the key component to their success. Without mcg they aren't winning any wc or test maces. 

[Lord]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

McGrath also had a ridiculously strong batting lineup until 7 to back him up. 

 

I still think he was the greatest bowler ever but it's unfair to Bumrah when our lower order has been full of frauds since 2013 ish. 

 

 

That wasn't always true. They had Healy at 7 in 96 and Moody in 99. Only later they beefed up on batting knowing bowling quality is there

[Nikhil_cric]

16 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

That wasn't always true. They had Healy at 7 in 96 and Moody in 99. Only later they beefed up on batting knowing bowling quality is there

And they didn't win in 96.  Tom Moody was a very capable hitter. 

 

Averaged 39 in List A cricket over a long career .  And averaged nearly 40 with the bat in his final year of ODI cricket .

 

Just never got to play regularly for OZ. 

Edited July 7, 2024 by Nikhil_cric

[Lord]

3 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

And they didn't win in 96.  Tom Moody was a very capable hitter. 

 

Averaged 39 in List A cricket over a long career .  And averaged nearly 40 with the bat in his final year of ODI cricket .

 

Just never got to play regularly for OZ. 

 

But McGrath did well both times.

 

Moody had SR of 70. Even in 90s that was poor for a no. 7.  SA had Pollock/Klusener coming in at same spot

[Nikhil_cric]

Just now, Lord said:

 

But McGrath did well both times.

 

Moody had SR of 70. Even in 90s that was poor for a no. 7.  SA had Pollock/Klusener coming in at same spot

 

Moody did not play cricket consistently. That strike rate is from 87 to 99.  

 

In 1999, he averaged nearly 40 and struck at 88.

 

McGrath didn't hit his white ball peak until '99.

 

Both his stats and his own statements regarding his ODI bowling(Bowling more defensive lengths) bear that out.  

 

Noticeably different approach from the 98/99 C&U series.