Ultimate_Game Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 4 hours ago, Sandz said: Abhishek the bowler reminds me of Yuvraj the bowler, looks like somoene who can only succeed on slow, sluggish pitches and will get hammered on flatbeds, which is what you usually get in T20s unless you are in UAE or the Windies. His SMAT bowling figures: Overs-Miadens-Runs-Wickets 1-0-13-0 Vs Baroda 2-0-21-0 Vs Delhi 4-0-23-0 Vs UP 2-0-25-0 Vs Saurashtra 1-0-9-0 Vs AP 2-0-19-0 Vs Railways 4-0-15-1 Vs Manipur 2-0-14-0 Vs Goa 2-0-22-1 Vs ARP Gets smacked around mostly, only succeded against UP outside the minnows. Not sure what the managements plan is but he will need to put in a lot of work on his bowling to succeed at the iternational level. The good thing that atleast he is trying to roll his arm over, but is no never near a finished product. Let him get some experience and he'll improve. Look at how Yuvraj improved as a bowler towards the end. I wish we remove the Impact Player rule and we'll see Abhishek bowl a lot more, and get better. Sandz 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 @putrevus are you ok given the youngsters managed to perform without "King" Kohli Frustrated and deeppoint 2 Link to comment
Kron Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 31 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: The OP is a piece of shyte. Opening the thread to troll Indian youngsters and newbies making their debut! I mean how low can you get and how can you even call yourself a "fan" when you do so. I'm more than sure the @$$hole would actually be sad and bitter seeing Indian youngsters perform. And he would have actually showed up here gloating had the team lost. Worse than a pak troll this slimeball. 156/0 That's how well they did I dont even want to utter the names of the 2 washed up greats tbh. Those fanboys are just too dumb and not worth our time. Same thing I will say for bowlers. There are again much better bowlers in domestics. If gambo is who I think he really is, he will make changes. deeppoint and Ultimate_Game 2 Link to comment
Kron Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 28 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: @putrevus are you ok given the youngsters managed to perform without "King" Kohli Think you missed the co in front of ohli Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 I hope everyone sees what these youngsters bring to the table and we would've actually performed even better had likes of Jaiswal and Abhishek gotten their shot in WT20. Hope Gambhir makes the changes and we phase the seniors out of ODIs too and we play the same way KKR does express bowling 1 Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 33 minutes ago, Kron said: Leftie nightie is the right combo tbh I know but Hayden Gilchrist combo was good too.. Kron 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 14 minutes ago, Need4Speed said: I know but Hayden Gilchrist combo was good too.. And so was Warner-Head! Jaiswal-Abhishek can be the same for us Kron 1 Link to comment
Norman Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 This thread looks more and more shameless with time. What a pathetic attempt to undermine the young talents after a single game! Gollum, Laaloo, singhvivek141 and 5 others 8 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 Just now, Norman said: This thread looks more and more shameless with time. What a pathetic attempt to undermine the young talents after a single game! Shows you the true nature of Kohli fanboys. They couldn't wait a second to open such a thread and taking shots at kids. Hope we see the last of @putrevus and ilk here. They aren't Indian Cricket Fans for sure. deeppoint 1 Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 On 7/8/2024 at 4:40 PM, Ultimate_Game said: Kohli cannot even dream of playing an innings which Abhishek played in only his 2nd T20I. What piece of shyte people (can't call you fans) are you people taking shots at youngsters making debut and taking first steps in intl cricket. Why both cant be appreciated..I have always admired what Rohit and Kohli has done for India..however youngsters need to be given time and experience.. The cricket is now fast paced and they wont get time to settle like previous players used to get.. I have always appreciated Rohits class and extra time..and Kohlis mental strength and agression but everything comes with an expiry date and it was time for youngsters to take over.. Coming back to original point neither Kohli could have played innings like Abhishek Sharma the other day nor Abhishek Sharma could have played some high pressure situations what Kohli played.. However we cant live in the past and one has to move on to prepare for future..We lost Sachin,Sehwag,Yuvraj…but got Roko…Now We will lose Rohits and Kohlis but we may get Abhisheks and Jaiswals.. Lets support Indian cricket more than an individual player.. Ultimate_Game and deeppoint 2 Link to comment
Kron Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 4 hours ago, Norman said: This thread looks more and more shameless with time. What a pathetic attempt to undermine the young talents after a single game! Does this every time. It's a trend. Also when prasidh did badly in SA, such fans were celebrating. No idea why they feel the urge to chastise the new talents. Just pure hatred of young talents. Granted prasidh isn't young per se but he was still clocking good speeds etc and did well for us in odi. Just shocking the way the new talents are treated by such vile fans. As gambo said, we are indicidual obsessed and not a team obsessed nation. Ultimate_Game and deeppoint 2 Link to comment
Kron Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 4 hours ago, Need4Speed said: Why both cant be appreciated..I have always admired what Rohit and Kohli has done for India..however youngsters need to be given time and experience.. The cricket is now fast paced and they wont get time to settle like previous players used to get.. I have always appreciated Rohits class and extra time..and Kohlis mental strength and agression but everything comes with an expiry date and it was time for youngsters to take over.. Coming back to original point neither Kohli could have played innings like Abhishek Sharma the other day nor Abhishek Sharma could have played some high pressure situations what Kohli played.. However we cant live in the past and one has to move on to prepare for future..We lost Sachin,Sehwag,Yuvraj…but got Roko…Now We will lose Rohits and Kohlis but we may get Abhisheks and Jaiswals.. Lets support Indian cricket more than an individual player.. Who said they can't play under pressure? They sure can Youngsters were the reason why we won in aus bg series. Also youngsters can also fail in 5 games and then score in a one off final which is what kohli did. They weren't even given enough chances .Shall we go through the amount of failures in icc finals by roko? Give youngsters the same amount of chances and the trophy cabinet would be bigger for t20. Link to comment
Adamant Posted July 14, 2024 Share Posted July 14, 2024 8 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: I hope everyone sees what these youngsters bring to the table and we would've actually performed even better had likes of Jaiswal and Abhishek gotten their shot in WT20. Hope Gambhir makes the changes and we phase the seniors out of ODIs too and we play the same way KKR does The youngsters performing against Zim is a good news, this doesn’t in any way mean that they would have done well in t20 wc too on spicy pitches especially when they weren’t ready, no one goes to a t20 wc without having any t20 experience. Use your brain for once. Link to comment
Adamant Posted July 14, 2024 Share Posted July 14, 2024 On 7/9/2024 at 3:10 AM, Ultimate_Game said: Kohli cannot even dream of playing an innings which Abhishek played in only his 2nd T20I. What piece of shyte people (can't call you fans) are you people taking shots at youngsters making debut and taking first steps in intl cricket. So you aren’t a piece of shyte for hating on Kohli and Rohit? are they not Indian players? Where does your Indian nationalism go when we talk of them. The only piece of shyte here is you who thinks supporting only youngsters represents nationalism. So shut the * up before I bring up your posts on the senior Indian players. Twada kutta tommy, sadda kutta kutta ? Link to comment
Adamant Posted July 14, 2024 Share Posted July 14, 2024 On 7/9/2024 at 3:10 AM, Ultimate_Game said: Kohli cannot even dream of playing an innings which Abhishek played in only his 2nd T20I. What piece of shyte people (can't call you fans) are you people taking shots at youngsters making debut and taking first steps in intl cricket. What kind of idiotic mindset helps you think that criticising seniors who have done a lot for the team deserve to be criticised and abused by a 2 kaudi ka hater like you but youngsters somehow don’t deserve any criticism? Throughout the world t20 people like you were arguing how an Indian C team will beat our main team and showing your true colora, when the same team lost a mat h against Zim why can’t we say that you were wrong. I can not call you a fan but a rabid hater and a hypocritical parasite Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted July 14, 2024 Share Posted July 14, 2024 23 minutes ago, Adamant said: What kind of idiotic mindset helps you think that criticising seniors who have done a lot for the team deserve to be criticised and abused by a 2 kaudi ka hater like you but youngsters somehow don’t deserve any criticism? Throughout the world t20 people like you were arguing how an Indian C team will beat our main team and showing your true colora, when the same team lost a mat h against Zim why can’t we say that you were wrong. I can not call you a fan but a rabid hater and a hypocritical parasite The same mindset where the seniors have been stats-padding for more than a decade without a title, and blame youngsters or bowlers for not showing up. And the team has shown they're good enough to perform. And did you and others who were throwing the youngsters under the bus after one match think that these folks haven't actually played for months - since IPL. They didn't get any warm up games or played during the WT20. They were coming in cold and the rust showed. And this thread showed that likes of @putrevus couldn't wait to take a shot at youngsters when the so called seniors have been failing for the decade. raki05 and deeppoint 2 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted July 14, 2024 Share Posted July 14, 2024 54 minutes ago, Adamant said: So you aren’t a piece of shyte for hating on Kohli and Rohit? are they not Indian players? Where does your Indian nationalism go when we talk of them. The only piece of shyte here is you who thinks supporting only youngsters represents nationalism. So shut the * up before I bring up your posts on the senior Indian players. Twada kutta tommy, sadda kutta kutta ? No I'm not as we've given these folks more than a decade. They had their time and likes of Kohli actually took Jaiswal's spot to start opening. I wouldn't couple Rohit with Kohli as Rohit learned from his mistakes and changed his game. He actually played for the team starting WC2023. Kohli OTOH has been stat-padding throughout. For him selfish stats are more important than Playing for the team. Even in the final it was Bumrah and Pandya who conjured up a miracle as the "King" had doomed us in another final stat-padding to another 50 where even likes of Axar and Dube out-batted him. Pandya could barely play 2 deliveries as the "King" was busy scoring a 48 ball 50. raki05 and deeppoint 1 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted July 14, 2024 Share Posted July 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Adamant said: The youngsters performing against Zim is a good news, this doesn’t in any way mean that they would have done well in t20 wc too on spicy pitches especially when they weren’t ready, no one goes to a t20 wc without having any t20 experience. Use your brain for once. And how do we know they wouldn't? We'll only know once seniors actually make way for them instead of hogging their spots and likes of Kohli start opening. When likes of Jaiswal and Abhishek have to sit on the bench when they're in prime form just to accommodate a has-been, you're bound to be calle dout for your selfishness. raki05 1 Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted July 14, 2024 Share Posted July 14, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, Kron said: Who said they can't play under pressure? They sure can Youngsters were the reason why we won in aus bg series. Also youngsters can also fail in 5 games and then score in a one off final which is what kohli did. They weren't even given enough chances .Shall we go through the amount of failures in icc finals by roko? Give youngsters the same amount of chances and the trophy cabinet would be bigger for t20. I know records are meant to be broken but..the amount of chases Kohli has nailed for India..is amazing..but icing on the cake for me is t20 victory against Pak in Aus..I dont know how many may match it.. I also want to give opportunities to youngsters but dont want to take credit away from Roko for whatever they did too.. This is a fact Roko should have won more trophies for us..but youngsters could have won more trophies may be..or may be they could have also not able to handle the pressure..who knows.. These youngsters surely have potential ..but also we need to give ample opportunities to youngsters to realize their potential and make their mark..I am seeing emergence of agressive brand of youngsters more recently and happy about it..previously we had Kela who botched it for us.. Edited July 14, 2024 by Need4Speed Kron 1 Link to comment
Adamant Posted July 14, 2024 Share Posted July 14, 2024 6 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: No I'm not as we've given these folks more than a decade. They had their time and likes of Kohli actually took Jaiswal's spot to start opening. I wouldn't couple Rohit with Kohli as Rohit learned from his mistakes and changed his game. He actually played for the team starting WC2023. Kohli OTOH has been stat-padding throughout. For him selfish stats are more important than Playing for the team. Even in the final it was Bumrah and Pandya who conjured up a miracle as the "King" had doomed us in another final stat-padding to another 50 where even likes of Axar and Dube out-batted him. Pandya could barely play 2 deliveries as the "King" was busy scoring a 48 ball 50. Yeah if you say so everyone should accept that. Which match did we lose in CWC23 due to Kohlis stat padding? He won us matches vs Aus, Nz then went on to score 100 in semis and 55 in finals, he followed a template that was set for a number 3 batsman and excelled at that. You can call it statpadding only if we lost due to his knock, we were winning matches after matches due to his knocks. T20wf 24 was bad for him but he has already done so much in t20 world cups that all he needed was to win and the finals knock was a cherry on top anyone who understands cricket knows that if Kohli got out that day on 30 odd we would have lost Link to comment
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