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1 hour ago, Frustrated said:

Can u pls take your time and show me a post where someone has hyped Avesh?   And that he can hit 140? 

Don't ask such questions, people those are using multiple id's...they will make a comment with one id and then with other id will circulate the same point to justify how right they were. 

 

 

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On 7/7/2024 at 9:07 AM, maniac said:

What a bowler. My fav among the current lot of backups: reminds me of a young Shami. Hits the seam, runs in and bowls hard.

 

if I was an army general and every soldier was like Mukki I would conquer the world :nice:

 

If building an army was the criteria, I would go with a fired up Shardul Thakur and Siraj. You'll get full jazba aur junoon :agree:

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51 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

If building an army was the criteria, I would go with a fired up Shardul Thakur and Siraj. You'll get full jazba aur junoon :agree:

 

Siraj ki accuracy nahi hai, josh mein apne hi maar dega :facepalm:

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On 7/7/2024 at 10:21 AM, singhvivek141 said:

Akash vs Mukesh

Bowling 

FC 23.7 vs 20.7

ODI 24.5 vs 38.4

T20 23.5 vs 29.5

 

As a batter & fielder Akash is miles ahead of Mukesh. Yet he is considered as a dark knight over another pacer who is more deserving.

 


bro this is called selective stats picking. Even we know how to cricinfo.

 

by the same account: Akash deep after 1 test 

Avg: 27.66 Eco: 4.36 and looks like after the opening spell with new ball in friendly conditions  against Bazball hacking he did zilch.

 

Mukesh after 3 tests Avg: 25.57 Eco rate: 3.78

 

Both are trundler category if you minus their seam skills.

 

Also I do remember Mukesh bowling well and winning a couple of games for DC this year. I am sure he got smashed too. Everyone does in IPL including Bumrah.

 

Akashdeep don’t remember any memorable performances from him in IPL. He plays for RCB and we know how it ends up for RCB bowlers including Siraj.

 

Mukeh won us an overseas test match 

 

Akashdeep played a good part in domestic pitches where even if he didn’t bowl that spell we would have bowled the other team out.

 

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If Mukesh Kr was bowling like this and his age is 21-22 I would be ok..but if he is bowling like this and close to 31..I dont want what he is offering..The day I saw him in some match giving a war cry after getting a tailender out..shows me how much he he rates himself..

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5 hours ago, maniac said:


bro this is called selective stats picking. Even we know how to cricinfo.

 

by the same account: Akash deep after 1 test 

Avg: 27.66 Eco: 4.36 and looks like after the opening spell with new ball in friendly conditions  against Bazball hacking he did zilch.

 

Mukesh after 3 tests Avg: 25.57 Eco rate: 3.78

 

Both are trundler category if you minus their seam skills.

 

Also I do remember Mukesh bowling well and winning a couple of games for DC this year. I am sure he got smashed too. Everyone does in IPL including Bumrah.

 

Akashdeep don’t remember any memorable performances from him in IPL. He plays for RCB and we know how it ends up for RCB bowlers including Siraj.

 

Mukeh won us an overseas test match 

 

Akashdeep played a good part in domestic pitches where even if he didn’t bowl that spell we would have bowled the other team out.

 

They both have played less games in internationals to draw any conclusion. But in domestics in similar conditions their sample data is decent enough to make a comparison.

 

Mukesh bowled well in an overseas test in SA where he took wickets of tailenders like Keshav & one more. All 20 wickets went to pacers and Bumrah, Siraj took 6fer. 

 

On the Indian conditions one match he played he leaked runs at above 5-6 p.o. against Bazball..only solace wicket was of Shoaib Bashir a tailender. On the same match Bumrah took 9fer/10fer with a 6 fer.

 

While Akash in his solitary game broke the top order and pushed them to backfoot. The game was in Ranchi and it was spinners who took majority of wickets.

 

Mukesh is a liability in other 2 departments if he fails with bowl. Akash is a good fielder & can make some useful 10-15 runs at the end.

 

IPL wise, there are 2 key difference. Akashdeep plays for RCB and their 50% games are at Chinnaswamy. Mukesh was backed by DC after poor first season, Akashdeep is dropped by 1-2 games only coz that's how RCB plays it's bowlers. IPL teams are not the right parameter IMO to compare them.

 

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1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said:

They both have played less games in internationals to draw any conclusion. But in domestics in similar conditions their sample data is decent enough to make a comparison.

 

Mukesh bowled well in an overseas test in SA where he took wickets of tailenders like Keshav & one more. All 20 wickets went to pacers and Bumrah, Siraj took 6fer. 

 

On the Indian conditions one match he played he leaked runs at above 5-6 p.o. against Bazball..only solace wicket was of Shoaib Bashir a tailender. On the same match Bumrah took 9fer/10fer with a 6 fer.

 

While Akash in his solitary game broke the top order and pushed them to backfoot. The game was in Ranchi and it was spinners who took majority of wickets.

 

Mukesh is a liability in other 2 departments if he fails with bowl. Akash is a good fielder & can make some useful 10-15 runs at the end.

 

IPL wise, there are 2 key difference. Akashdeep plays for RCB and their 50% games are at Chinnaswamy. Mukesh was backed by DC after poor first season, Akashdeep is dropped by 1-2 games only coz that's how RCB plays it's bowlers. IPL teams are not the right parameter IMO to compare them.

 


whoa thats an essay for grad school :hatsoff:

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6 hours ago, Chaos said:

@Ultimate_Game @Kron @Lord @Frustrated @Nikhil_cric @vvvslaxman and rest of icf do not trust @coffee_rules or he will scam us all $15 each…:((

 

 

in the meanwhile im enjoyin this, happy monday.

 

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@coffee_rules can you pls invite @Chaos to clean your toilets and hand him his 15$, that way he will get some employment and get back his money, he has been crying all over the forum.

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7 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Topic will be, to write a comparative analysis of Mukesh & Akashdeep...in atleast 100 words :cantstop:

 

 


dude u can never describe a legend like gutkesh in 100 words…u need encyclopedia kinda book for that legend of the game.

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9 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

They both have played less games in internationals to draw any conclusion. But in domestics in similar conditions their sample data is decent enough to make a comparison.

 

Mukesh bowled well in an overseas test in SA where he took wickets of tailenders like Keshav & one more. All 20 wickets went to pacers and Bumrah, Siraj took 6fer. 

 

On the Indian conditions one match he played he leaked runs at above 5-6 p.o. against Bazball..only solace wicket was of Shoaib Bashir a tailender. On the same match Bumrah took 9fer/10fer with a 6 fer.

 

While Akash in his solitary game broke the top order and pushed them to backfoot. The game was in Ranchi and it was spinners who took majority of wickets.

 

Mukesh is a liability in other 2 departments if he fails with bowl. Akash is a good fielder & can make some useful 10-15 runs at the end.

 

IPL wise, there are 2 key difference. Akashdeep plays for RCB and their 50% games are at Chinnaswamy. Mukesh was backed by DC after poor first season, Akashdeep is dropped by 1-2 games only coz that's how RCB plays it's bowlers. IPL teams are not the right parameter IMO to compare them.

 


Akashdeep : can he be better than Mukesh based on some questionable domestic numbers where Ravindra Jadeja has 3 300s and Jaiswal has 0 300s. Bowled one opening spell against bazball hacks with new ball in friendly conditions and went missing after that. The answer is Maybe! 
 

Mukesh: Has he performed more or less at the same level or even better than Akash in internationals?  Yes

 

Is he better than Akash in IPL: leagues ahead

 

Has he shown temperament under pressure: Yes

 

He was used as a third seamer which is the most underrated position in Indian overseas test wins. Even when we had Srinath-Prasad we came close many times to win but didn’t have a proper third seamer. So Mukesh’s work needs to be appreciated in cleaning up the tail. That’s always a challenge for Indian pacers.

 

 

Only thing puts Akash over Mukesh is your fandom for him at this point.

 

Maybe he is better: time will tell. Both are trundlers with a lot of utility and Mukesh has shown more utility at this point where it matters.Mukesh right now is way way ahead.

 

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