Nikhil_cric Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 2 hours ago, Suhaan said: But do you believe we select squads based on conditions? Seldomly we have done it in history Iyer is so bad against short deliveries that even an ICC monitored sporting pitch will cause him trouble Conditions are probably what led to Rinku's omission in West Indies. His record against spin and against pacers bowling hard lengths into the body and wide lines is quite weak even in IPL. On Caribbean wickets, spin and slower ball hard lengths from pacers are much tougher to play than IPL pitches . So his omission did have some logic Harder to predict who will succeed though unless they've actually played there. Imo, BCCI should look to arrange 3-4 ODI tours of SA/OZ before the next World Cup to figure out who can play in these conditions. On the recent tour, Sai and Sanju were easily the best batters in SA. Suhaan and Gollum 2
Suhaan Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 3 hours ago, Frustrated said: Why do some posters want S Iyer back? The guy is so trash against quality pace in general & slower off cutters (or bouncers in particular) that he is likely to struggle even on flat asian pattas. WC2023 Final is a testimony to that. He didn't last 5 balls. All he needed to do was anchor the inning for next 10-15 overs. (Ind were 65/2 in 9 overs when this Fraud arrived at the crease) Aage peeche jau na jau,unsure about his ability play deliveries irrespective of their length is his huge fall He is very insecure about his ability to play those Gollum and Frustrated 2
Frustrated Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 14 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Aage peeche jau na jau,unsure about his ability play deliveries irrespective of their length is his huge fall He is very insecure about his ability to play those Yep. We hv better players who hv all bases covered. No need to go back to S Iyer who can't figure out his technical flaws despite having played 5+ yr of intl cricket. On top of that, he has a history of disciplinary issues. Gollum and Suhaan 2
Kron Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 5 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: Conditions are probably what led to Rinku's omission in West Indies. His record against spin and against pacers bowling hard lengths into the body and wide lines is quite weak even in IPL. On Caribbean wickets, spin and slower ball hard lengths from pacers are much tougher to play than IPL pitches . So his omission did have some logic Harder to predict who will succeed though unless they've actually played there. Imo, BCCI should look to arrange 3-4 ODI tours of SA/OZ before the next World Cup to figure out who can play in these conditions. On the recent tour, Sai and Sanju were easily the best batters in SA. Samson never had issues vs pace and bounce. His problem is vs leg spin
Lord Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 9 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: Conditions are probably what led to Rinku's omission in West Indies. His record against spin and against pacers bowling hard lengths into the body and wide lines is quite weak even in IPL. On Caribbean wickets, spin and slower ball hard lengths from pacers are much tougher to play than IPL pitches . So his omission did have some logic Harder to predict who will succeed though unless they've actually played there. Imo, BCCI should look to arrange 3-4 ODI tours of SA/OZ before the next World Cup to figure out who can play in these conditions. On the recent tour, Sai and Sanju were easily the best batters in SA. Rinku also did well in T20s there IIRC Ultimate_Game 1
Nikhil_cric Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 2 minutes ago, Lord said: Rinku also did well in T20s there IIRC In WI?
Nikhil_cric Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 1 minute ago, Lord said: SA T20s Jury still out on Rinku.
Ultimate_Game Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: Jury still out on Rinku. Shouldn't be. A guy averaging in 80s with a SR closer to 180 over 18 games deserves spot in the team. Bumrah, Pandya and Rinku should be the first three names on the team sheet. Edited July 10, 2024 by Ultimate_Game Lone Wolf, Lord, express bowling and 1 other 4
Majestic Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 Gill Jaiswal KL Rahul S Iyer Pant(wkt) Pandya Jadeja Kuldeep Prasidh?? Arshdeep Siraj
Ultimate_Game Posted July 10, 2024 Posted July 10, 2024 11 minutes ago, Majestic said: Gill Jaiswal KL Rahul S Iyer Pant(wkt) Pandya Jadeja Kuldeep Prasidh?? Arshdeep Siraj That's a pretty long tail, and with likes of KL Rahul, Jadeja and Prasidh that's a pretty regressive playing XI. WC 2023 and the recent WT20 should've been enough to show KL Rahul is not needed anymore. Better to give chances to Rinku with List A average of 50 and with temperament to boot, or trying Nitish Reddy or even Venky Iyer would be much better than going back to these TTFs. Prasidh hasn't shown anything to be backed - he was absolutely useless the last time we saw him and he hasn't done anything to show he has improved. I would rather back someone like Harshit Rana, Akash Deep or Mohsin Khan - at least we get to see their potential rather than rehashing the same old. Norman, Gollum and Frustrated 3
express bowling Posted July 11, 2024 Posted July 11, 2024 (edited) ODIs .... my preferred squad 1. Gill 2. Jaiswal .. LHB 3. Shreyas 4. Pant .. LHB 5. Rahul 6. Hardik 7. Axar .. LHB 8. Harshit 9. Akashdeep 10. Kuldeep .. LHB 11. Siraj 12. Samson 13. Rinku .. LHB 14. Washington ? .. LHB 15. Arshdeep Would be nice if we get a better hitter cum spinner than Washington. Edited July 11, 2024 by express bowling Mosher 1
singhvivek141 Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 For SL ODI's, my choice will be 1. Gill 2. Jaiswal 3. Shreyas 4. Pant (wk) 5. Rinku 6. Hardik 7. Axar 8. Rana 9. Kuldeep 10. Arshdeep 11. Siraj 12. Gaekwad 13. Jurel (wk) 14. Washington 15. Avesh I don't want Rahul anywhere near the team in any format. 32 year old already. raki05 1
MK55 Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 (edited) I’ll prefer KL as the captain in ODIs any day over this clown Pandya. KL is also more likely to play some quick bowlers in the side. Pandya is a disaster for bowling selections n ultra defensive in giving them spells during the match. He has done this every single time he has access to such bowlers. That clown may even open up the bowling himself if the conditions are slightly favorable to bowl. This will be magnified as I’m sure that World Cup win must have gone to his small head lol. Edited July 12, 2024 by MK55 Gollum 1
vayuu1 Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 (edited) On 7/8/2024 at 8:57 PM, Kron said: Rutrajaa Jaiswal Giĺly Pant Rinku Pandya Venky iyer Axar Arshdeep Bumrah Mayank That would be some team Bumrah is rested Team should be Ritu/gill Jaiswal Rahul pant sky Iyer/rinku Panda/washi/venky Axar Kuldeep/Bishnoi Arshdeep Mayank Siraj U can also take Harshit rana, Abhishek,rinku in t20's Edited July 12, 2024 by vayuu1
vishalvirsingh Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 8 hours ago, vayuu1 said: Bumrah is rested Team should be Ritu/gill Jaiswal Rahul pant sky Iyer/rinku Panda/washi/venky Axar Kuldeep/Bishnoi Arshdeep Mayank Siraj U can also take Harshit rana, Abhishek,rinku in t20's Rituraj is ideally a Test Batsman- i would not pick him as I am spoilt for choices. ODI Squad- Yashasvi Abhishek Sharma GILL Shreyas Iyer Hardik Pandya-captain Tilak Verma - left-arm batsman OR Nitish Reddy if he is fit - can't consider Dube as An all-rounder for ODI, he is just a batsman. i will probably drop him from both teams as His bowling capability is very Bad. as a batsman SKY in t20/Rinku Singh Riyan Parag- Spin All rounder Washington -Spin All-rounder Harshit Rana- PACER who can bat Mayank Yadav- I won't pick arshdeep in ODI. Siraj..if BOOM is out we need Siraj to lead the attack in ODI's. Rinku Singh Sanju Samson as Wicketkeeper in ODI, I feel he deserves more than PANT in ODI. Tushar Deshpande- he is probably better than AVESH and Mukesh. Khaleel ahead of Yash dayal Bishnoi as Kuldeep can be picked in tests and can relax in this series. t20 squad SKY - captain Abhishek tilak verma riyan parag Washington- SPIN AR harshit rana- pacer who can bat Siraj- Pace lead vijay kumar vyashak- known as a restrictive pacer and bowls 140 + too. khaleel- left arm Pace. Arsh deep- left arm Pant - as keeper for t20 Rinku singh Hardik Pandya Jaiswal yashasvi
MumInd Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 ODI Rutu Jaiswal Gill KL Pant Pandu Jadeja Washy Kuldeep Deshpande Siraj T20 Sharma Rutu SKY Samson Dube Rinku Pandya Washy Bishnoi Arshadeep Deshpande Chaos 1
Gollum Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 Was very impressed by Sai Sudarshan and Samson in RSA last year. Both should be given a long run, Shreyas Iyer won't do anything in 2027 WC. Frustrated and Lone Wolf 2
Lone Wolf Posted July 13, 2024 Author Posted July 13, 2024 On 7/10/2024 at 8:39 PM, Nikhil_cric said: Jury still out on Rinku. Rinku is a closest we have to a complete left hand middle order bat we need who can rotate strike and hit big vs spin and pace & is not a leg side hack vs spin and Pace. Strong slog sweeper and can hit over extra cover. Rare combo among Indian batters Gollum, raki05 and Lord 1 2
Lone Wolf Posted July 13, 2024 Author Posted July 13, 2024 1 hour ago, Gollum said: Was very impressed by Sai Sudarshan and Samson in RSA last year. Both should be given a long run, Shreyas Iyer won't do anything in 2027 WC. Iyer had a near ATG performance as a middle order bat in WC. Understandable if they are offering him CT at least. From there we can identify if he is still good enough or not. Sudarshan is directly competing with Gill Jaiswal types. Post CT if Ro Ko go out (unlikely) then only he will get a proper run Norman and Gollum 2
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