Border Gavaskar Trophy - Will this possibly be our best ever squad to tour Australia?

[express bowling]

22 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Mayank is not going to play Tests so soon. He will most probably debut in T20's/ODI's. first....it depends though on his performance in domestics.

 

He has drawn the attention, now one good season and he will break in the team.

 

Harshit is ready IMO.

 

Mayank needs to play the ODIs in SL if he is fit.

 

Will prepare his body for bowling 10 overs a day. He has successfully played List A games last year. 

Edited July 9 by express bowling

[Gollum]

Just now, express bowling said:

 

Mayank Yadav is breaking down bowling 4 overs a day.

 

How can we play him in test matches till the time he proves his fitness ?

 

Let's say he bowls successfully in the 4 day games in the A-team series in Australia ... we can include him then as an additional pacer. 

Right now, prepare Mayank for 2026 T20 WC, that must be first priority. Difficult to imagine him playing tests when he broke down after 2 IPL games. Just 22, his strength/endurance will build by 26 even if there is slight loss in pace. 

[Lone Wolf]

8 minutes ago, Gollum said:

I don't expect Jaiswal to be consistent but he will have a couple of good knocks. Still too young and raw, reminds me of Kohli of 2012-14 period, spark everyone can see but to do it consistently isn't a short term process. His shot selection is a work in progress. 

 

Rohit did well last BGT though he kept throwing away his starts. Unless he has a drastic age related decline (even greats like Sachin, Kallis, Ponting, Hayden suddenly lost it) I expect him to do well, score 350-400 runs in these 5 tests with maybe one match defining knock. If he can stay a bit longer, hope he demoralizes Lyon like how Mayank did in 2018-19. 

 

Gill seems to have figured out test cricket finally, Pant is a mystery but ability no one can doubt. Kohli/Kela to man the middle order, Jaddu down at number 7, our batting should worry Aussies. Sarfaraz, Jurel are good backups. 

Jaiswal will be fine to decent in Australia.

He needs to back his ultra aggressive strategy on those bouncy tracks.

He has the shots and a decent defence

Him being a left hander is a bonus.

Head and Warner have survived in Australia with poor techniques and backed aggressive stroke play.

[Nikhil_cric]

6 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Anyway good thread by @Adamant, our fans are unnecessarily worried and pessimistic about our chances later this year. 

 

For me BGT win in Aus is bigger than anything. That too when Aussies have such a great team and number one in the ranking points. 

It's not that great a team now.  Warner is retired and Smith looks a shadow of the player he used to be.  Starc is finished etc. 

 

They're a good team - most OZ full strength sides are - but the threat is vastly diminished. 

 

 

 

 

[Gollum]

Just now, Lone Wolf said:

Jaiswal will be fine to decent in Australia.

He needs to back his ultra aggressive strategy on those bouncy tracks.

He has the shots and a decent defence

Him being a left hander is a bonus.

Head and Warner have survived in Australia with poor techniques and backed aggressive stroke play.

Yes, also Cummins, Hazlewood are lot worse against LHBs, some 10 runs difference in avg between bowling to RHBs and LHBs. 

 

Lyon too has his vulnerabilities against LHBs, despite being offie he loves bowling to RHBs, especially the strokeless kind like Pujara and Rahane. 

[Kron]

4 hours ago, VT87 said:

Just like in SA where your Vada pav and Jaiswal were busy making hundreds out of hundreds same thing will happen in Australia too brace yourself, don’t hide if this would happen 

Praise to Allah if it happens. I have a good feeling coolie will be forced to quit mid tour and a new player will step up for him. 

 

If he does well then I will congratulate all kohli fans. I have zero faith in him

 

When I say if he does well, I expect him to help us win or draw the series. Not lose. Performing in losing cause means nothing to me

Edited July 9 by Kron

[Nikhil_cric]

If Kuldeep can get the kind of revs he got on the ball that he did in the last 2 Tests of Anthony D'Mello,   he will be effective anywhere on the planet.   Good defensive technique while batting is a huge bonus as well 

 

 

[Kron]

47 minutes ago, Gollum said:

 

Kohli and Kela were standouts on those raddi, doctored pitches in RSA last year. Perth day 5 with big cracks, Adelaide D/N, Gabba, these guys have the potential to win us the games. Don't confuse formats. 

 

Kohli was at his best in RSA and if he had played against Eng earlier this year, 500+ runs series was on the cards. Pity he missed out on easy statpadding. 

He did do well in SA. But not kela. He is a loser. I don't want him anywhere near the team. Regardless of his performances. 

 

I still feel hAzelwood will bamboozle kohli this time in tests.

[Kron]

2 hours ago, Stan AF said:

I'll take both those old hazards who have both bowled and batted well and won matches in Australia over the overhyped kuldeep.

 

I'm sorry I don't buy into the ICF hype.

 

Kuldeep is good in tests but he is meek as hell. Drop him and pick a spinner who can bat if needed. Sundar is better for aus

 

Kuldeep at 9 I would say if we are playing him. He is quality in tests but mentality is questionable. 

Edited July 9 by Kron

[Kron]

2 hours ago, Stan AF said:

Got smacked into oblivion in both the odi wc final and the T20 WC final. If it was chahal or any other spinner ICF would have called for their heads.

Chahal sucks too

[Gollum]

Just now, Nikhil_cric said:

It's not that great a team now.  Warner is retired and Smith looks a shadow of the player he used to be.  Starc is finished etc. 

 

They're a good team - most OZ full strength sides are - but the threat is vastly diminished. 

I disagree. Carey, Head, Green will become the next big things for them. Won't write off Smith as well, great players usually have one final burst before exiting the stage. Starc is finished but they have Boland (he is old I know), his bowling style is a bad matchup for our guys. 

 

When he leaves, Lyon will be the biggest miss for them. He is one guy who has made a very good team a great one. Similar to Swann in that regard. 

[Kron]

40 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Kela since 2022 has been much better. He had a horror run in 2018-20 and hence his average took a nosedive. 

Elgar was very very lucky that game. Never seen a player with so many misses/edges score that many. Anyway day 1 was tougher, and Kela rescued us from dire straits.

We are number 1 btw.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

2 minutes ago, Gollum said:

I disagree. Carey, Head, Green will become the next big things for them. Won't write off Smith as well, great players usually have one final burst before exiting the stage. Starc is finished but they have Boland (he is old I know), his bowling style is a bad matchup for our guys. 

 

When he leaves, Lyon will be the biggest miss for them. He is one guy who has made a very good team a great one. Similar to Swann in that regard. 

 

Carey is already 33 years old , Head is going to be 31 - good counter attacking batsman but needs top order to set a platform .

 

Green is legit.  Huge potential and he showed glimpses of that against NZ. 

 

Hopefully our bowlers can shut him down 

Edited July 9 by Nikhil_cric

[Nikhil_cric]

7 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Yes, also Cummins, Hazlewood are lot worse against LHBs, some 10 runs difference in avg between bowling to RHBs and LHBs. 

 

Lyon too has his vulnerabilities against LHBs, despite being offie he loves bowling to RHBs, especially the strokeless kind like Pujara and Rahane. 

Bro, it's not that big. 

 

At least from what I saw on AskCI

 

Against RHB

 

Cummins - 21.3

Hazlewood - 24.3

 

Against LHB

 

Cummins - 25.3

Hazlewood - 26.11

 

[Gollum]

5 tests at home against Kanglus and Kiwis

5 overseas tests in Aus

WTC final next June

Pataudi Trophy, 5 tests in England

Then RSA come here for 2 tests, WI also (make them 3 tests series )

 

Final flourish for many of these modern Indian greats, hope they finish unfinished business like WTC trophy, test series win in Eng. If we win BGT again, nothing better!!!!! Legacy defining period for them. 

 

 

[Gollum]

3 minutes ago, Kron said:

We are number 1 btw.

 

No Aus 124 points, India 120 points. They got back number 1 spot after whitewashing NZ in NZ. 

[Gollum]

1 minute ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Bro, it's not that big. 

 

At least from what I saw on AskCI

 

Against RHB

 

Cummins - 21.3

Hazlewood - 24.3

 

Against LHB

 

Cummins - 25.3

Hazlewood - 26.11

 

Ok I think they may have improved in recent times. Last time we toured, commentators brought this stat many times, especially when Pant, Sundar were batting well. Also when our 11 RHBs collapsed to 36 all out in the D/N game. 

[Adamant]

1 hour ago, vishalvirsingh said:

Where is mayank yadav

Mayank has played one FC match, we shouldn't do a Pakistan here and play a 22 year old bowler wuth hardly any experience, he should start with t20s, then ODIs.
Not needed in tests right now.

We have
Bumrah
Shami
Siraj
Akashdeep
Harshit Rana

These 5 specialists are more than enough.

[Adamant]

1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

I am looking for impact bro...I am being honest.

Sarfaraz is not the answer I agree, but going back to KL is as regressive as choosing Mukesh Kumar your leader of attack in all 3 formats.

We are not going back to KL, he was always there in our squad, missed the series vs poms due to injuries.

[Adamant]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

 

Carey is already 33 years old , Head is going to be 31 - good counter attacking batsman but needs top order to set a platform .

 

Green is legit.  Huge potential and he showed glimpses of that against NZ. 

 

Hopefully our bowlers can shut him down 

I think Starc wont play the whole series, they have Boland who they might prefer over Starc, and he has done amazingly well in Aus.

Head is 31 and at his peek, Carey is an upgrade over Paine but again not someone who  will score a lot.

Also, Starc is the kind of bowler who will win them the day night test match, his record in D/N test match in incredible

I think they are still a great team, the only two concerns are Smith and Starc and there's a replacement ready for one of them.