Gautam Gambhir new head coach

[Gollum]

52 minutes ago, putrevus said:

We have to give Gambhir credit for this impossible win. It cannot be just captain's thinking to do something like this, coach also has to be part of the think tank.

Imagine Dravid in his place !!!!

[putrevus]

5 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Imagine Dravid in his place !!!!

Lol, we would be talking about stadium's drainage and covers .

 

I also think Rohit needs to get out of this mindset that his job as batsman is just to hit couple of sixes or giving fast start.

 

Rohit has been feeding on (both as a captain and batsman)all cozy home series except in SA, where he flunked in one test and plus who can forget his useless captaincy in ICC test final.

 

Rohit as a captain worries me a lot.He kept bowling Ashwin on and on even in this test, he will over bowl Bumrah in Australia.He has no idea on bowling rotation.

 

Akashdeep has been severly underbowled in all tests.His bowling is tailor made for lefties.

[straighttalk]

On 10/2/2024 at 5:29 AM, Gollum said:

Imagine Dravid in his place !!!!

Just because David is more reticient and someone like Kohli or Gambhir is more outgoing or in your face..don't make the mistake of thinking David is passive..it's the results that matter...and David delivered...finals in test odi and t20..and won the wc...any particular match can go sideways...but that's not just on Dravid...

[Need4Speed]

18 minutes ago, straighttalk said:

Just because David is more reticient and someone like Kohli or Gambhir is more outgoing or in your face..don't make the mistake of thinking David is passive..it's the results that matter...and David delivered...finals in test odi and t20..and won the wc...any particular match can go sideways...but that's not just on Dravid...

yes in David we trust :D

[Chakdephatte]

1 hour ago, straighttalk said:

Just because David is more reticient and someone like Kohli or Gambhir is more outgoing or in your face..don't make the mistake of thinking David is passive..it's the results that matter...and David delivered...finals in test odi and t20..and won the wc...any particular match can go sideways...but that's not just on Dravid...

Straight up facts 

[Frustrated]

20 hours ago, Need4Speed said:

yes in David we trust :D

Coincidentally David is also useless. (ie Tim David )

[diga]

21 hours ago, straighttalk said:

Just because David is more reticient and someone like Kohli or Gambhir is more outgoing or in your face..don't make the mistake of thinking David is passive..it's the results that matter...and David delivered...finals in test odi and t20..and won the wc...any particular match can go sideways...but that's not just on Dravid...

Not just that, as a captain he delivered our first test win in SA & test series wins in WI and Eng after close to 30 years.  The ODI chasing record is there for all to see. Unfortunately his legacy has been defined by the world cup loss & declaration in Pak

 

PS: Believe our fast bowling culture started with Dravid playing Sreesanth, Munaf, VRV in tests and trying to push 5 bowlers in the side. We lost 1 test match against Eng as a result of that I think 

[straighttalk]

On 10/4/2024 at 7:24 AM, diga said:

Not just that, as a captain he delivered our first test win in SA & test series wins in WI and Eng after close to 30 years.  The ODI chasing record is there for all to see. Unfortunately his legacy has been defined by the world cup loss & declaration in Pak

 

PS: Believe our fast bowling culture started with Dravid playing Sreesanth, Munaf, VRV in tests and trying to push 5 bowlers in the side. We lost 1 test match against Eng as a result of that I think 

Do we have any evidence of Dravid asking for a slow pitch...given that chasing is heavily favored..I thought we lost due to the toss ..and maybe we were falsely confident that Aussies will bat first no matter what. As for the declaration..I wish more captains did that to avoid playing for milestones.

[singhvivek141]

3 hours ago, straighttalk said:

Do we have any evidence of Dravid asking for a slow pitch...given that chasing is heavily favored..I thought we lost due to the toss ..and maybe we were falsely confident that Aussies will bat first no matter what. As for the declaration..I wish more captains did that to avoid playing for milestones.

 

 

Not sure if this can be considered as the evidence, if you trust Kaif's word.

[R!TTER]

I don't care about evidence or not but the slow pitch was supposed to aid India, no one with half a brain can dispute that! They tried the same BS at Indore test earlier in the year & at Chennai in the same WC - * many on the forum were cheering for the misery of Oz, before we lost of course 

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, R!TTER said:

I don't care about evidence or not but the slow pitch was supposed to aid India, no one with half a brain can dispute that! They tried the same BS at Indore test earlier in the year & at Chennai in the same WC - * many on the forum were cheering for the misery of Oz, before we lost of course 

Actually it's reverse...we prepared slow pitch not to aid us, but to negate Starc and Cummins. That's the lack of trust in our fast bowlers.
Our strength these days is bowling irrespective of formats. Shami was blowing the opposition left, right and center in the WC...Bumrah was the controller and Kuldeep was multiplying the pressure multiple times.

Dew played it's part, but we also shot in our foot by focusing much on oppositions strength's than ours.

[R!TTER]

7 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Actually it's reverse...we prepared slow pitch not to aid us, but to negate Starc and Cummins. That's the lack of trust in our fast bowlers.

Kinda the same isn't it? Man to man we were better, we still went with slow/turners so many times vs Oz even in tests!

[singhvivek141]

2 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Kinda the same isn't it? Man to man we were better, we still went with slow/turners so many times vs Oz even in tests!

But turners is as much a problem for our seniors as with the OZ's. Gill & Kohli are poor against spin and they need pace to make their strokes. 
On top of it we select KL maharaj who kept us hostage.

In tests we have the combo of Ash-Jaddu to bail us out. 

[R!TTER]

Right but square turners are also a lottery, even with Ashwin/Jadeja - we lost at Pune & Indore because of that. Man to man we are so much superior to Oz it's not even funny, like I said in the other thread we last lost to Oz on a flat track back in 2004 test series - even Eng has done better in recent years!

 

For ODI even though it would be closer we should've backed our strengths i.e. batting! And yes batting is our strength in LO, always has been.

Edited October 11, 2024 by R!TTER

[Lord]

10 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

 

 

Not sure if this can be considered as the evidence, if you trust Kaif's word.

 

Since when is this pan eater considered evidence?

 

 

[Lord]

8 hours ago, R!TTER said:

I don't care about evidence or not but the slow pitch was supposed to aid India, no one with half a brain can dispute that! They tried the same BS at Indore test earlier in the year & at Chennai in the same WC - * many on the forum were cheering for the misery of Oz, before we lost of course 

only if we bowled first. Dew negated all of it.

 

The pitch actually played similar to Pak game where they had good start and then collapsed and we chased easily. 

[R!TTER]

They were probably also hoping/expecting that DEW would not play such a major role! I can't be 100% sure if that's exactly what the TM wanted, because I'm not that curator, but throughout the tournament almost all matches India played were on slowish pitches—except the SF vs. NZ. Check the scoreboards of those games when India played vs. other games on that ground. So even if we discount the finale the rest of the pitches were unnecessarily slow, probably just for us!

Edited October 11, 2024 by R!TTER

[Lord]

To early to judge but his actions don't match his words

[Gollum]

Harshit non-selection is very fishy. Neeyat saaf nahi lag rha hai iska. 

[putrevus]

Let us see how gets the most of out this test and series. Shastri raised his team from 36 all out to greatest series win with a third string playing XI.

 

I am liking what he is doing so far. I thought he would be useless but he is already lot better than Dravid ever was in his tenure.