Gautam Gambhir new head coach

[Rasgulla]

Gambo aggressive looking diddy couldn’t read the pitch. No wonder  Dhoni was better

Edited October 17, 2024 by Rasgulla

[Frustrated]

In just 4 months of his tenure, following are Gambhir's biggest achievements:  1) Losing an ODI series (0-2) to SL in SL after 28 yrs.  Historic moment in Indian LOI cricket hitstory  2) Losing a home test to NZ after 36 yrs........Historic moment in Indian test cricket (same NZ who suffered inning defeats in SL last month)

[Lord]

8 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

In just 4 months of his tenure, following are Gambhir's biggest achievements:  1) Losing an ODI series (0-2) to SL in SL after 28 yrs.  Historic moment in Indian LOI cricket hitstory  2) Losing a home test to NZ after 36 yrs........Historic moment in Indian test cricket (same NZ who suffered inning defeats in SL last month)

 

but but he'aggressive'. Thats all that matters

[Lord]

On 10/18/2024 at 1:53 AM, putrevus said:

Let us see how gets the most of out this test and series. Shastri raised his team from 36 all out to greatest series win with a third string playing XI.

 

I am liking what he is doing so far. I thought he would be useless but he is already lot better than Dravid ever was in his tenure.

 

What are you liking exactly?

[Ultimate_Game]

Problem is not Gambhir but seniors. We've too many non-performing "seniors". Test team (and ODI) is filled with 4 of them in Rohit, Kohli, KL Rahul and Siraj. Carrying 4 passengers is too much. Look at our T20 team who doesn't have to carry this baggage and compare it to Tests and ODI teams.

 

Recall the Eng series earlier this year when we had youngsters in Sarfaraz, Jurel, and Jaiswal in the team. Now it's back to seniors and we're imploding against NZ. Our lower order was the one doing the heavy lifting for so long as seniors have been there for the ride for too long. This Test shows what happens when lower order doesn't clean up seniors' mess.

 

Blame Gambhir all you want but the real problem are useless seniority quota. Kick them out and you'll see much better performances like our T20 team.

[putrevus]

3 hours ago, Lord said:

 

What are you liking exactly?

The team showed fight and did not surrender after getting all out for 46 and facing 350 plus deficit., what else do you need from a team.

 

 

 

 

[Lord]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

The team showed fight and did not surrender after getting all out for 46 and facing 350 plus deficit., what else do you need from a team.

 

 

 

 

 

This is our home game. Ofcourse we are gonna show fight. You are saying as if we fought at home for first time.

 

46 allout shouldnt happen in first place at home.

[putrevus]

11 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

This is our home game. Ofcourse we are gonna show fight. You are saying as if we fought at home for first time.

 

46 allout shouldnt happen in first place at home.

So what if it is home game,  who said 46 all out should not  happen. Stop making every match into life and death.Losing odd match here and there is not end of world.

 

70 all out happened with fab four  at home they did not sniff a lead.

 

Here they took the lead and actually were leading the match .When did that happen last time in Indian cricket.

Edited October 20, 2024 by putrevus

[Lord]

12 hours ago, putrevus said:

So what if it is home game,  who said 46 all out should not  happen. Stop making every match into life and death.Losing odd match here and there is not end of world.

 

70 all out happened with fab four  at home they did not sniff a lead.

 

Here they took the lead and actually were leading the match .When did that happen last time in Indian cricket.

 

You are talking about 2010. We were not so dominant at home then with fab four. 

 

Already lost SL ODI series and home Test under GG. Its not a good start

[lemsip]

3 hours ago, Lord said:

Already lost SL ODI series and home Test under GG. Its not a good start

It's a results business but the time to evaluate is after a year or so. I don't mind the odd humiliating loss povided they win the prize ( WTC)- that's sport after all. 

The other thing to judge is how good GG is in bringing forward new talent and manage transition to a younger side. If he just treads water with natural decline of "seniors" it will be a failed stint.

[R!TTER]

The WTC isn't really a "prize" given individual test series are still more important than a random finale in a neutral country! Third BGT win in a row is more consequential/historic than that one game, same goes for Ashes otherwise Eng wouldn't have dropped 19(?) points in 2 months or Oz 10(?) in the same period.

[lemsip]

20 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

The WTC isn't really a "prize" given individual test series are still more important than a random finale in a neutral country! Third BGT win in a row is more consequential/historic than that one game, same goes for Ashes otherwise Eng wouldn't have dropped 19(?) points in 2 months or Oz 10(?) in the same period.

The WTC is a prize in a sporting sense since it is something India has not managed to do under previous management. India has already won the last two BGT series in Australia so another one, though difficult and an achievement, would not be something new. The WTC final will be neutral territory for both likely finalists.

[putrevus]

13 hours ago, Lord said:

 

You are talking about 2010. We were not so dominant at home then with fab four. 

 

Already lost SL ODI series and home Test under GG. Its not a good start

No it has started just fine. They also won an impossible test under GG. Odd setback here and there should be fine. Give him time before judging him.

Edited October 21, 2024 by putrevus

[Suhaan]

On 10/20/2024 at 6:10 PM, Lord said:

 

but but he'aggressive'. Thats all that matters

Comes roaring and beats his chest when India wins but pussifies otherwise

[Lone Wolf]

Even if NZ lose 2-1 this series is already a win for them.  A poor side that got rawdogged in SL won a test in India after 30, odd years.

This is a black mark on Indian home dominance.

 

Only a Test win in NZ can make up for this humiliation.

[deepdynamo]

Just now, Lone Wolf said:

Even if NZ lose 2-1 this series is already a win for them.  A poor side that got rawdogged in SL won a test in India after 30, odd years.

This is a black mark on Indian home dominance.

 

Only a Test win in NZ can make up for this humiliation.

It will be interesting for us in the next WTC cycle.

Rohit wouldn't be there.

Kohli could stick around for 2 years (or not) on senior quota
KL will be booted out.
Ashwin-Jadeja will be on their last declining legs.
Shami wouldn't survive another WTC cycle.

Overall a well prepared AUS can beat us next time at home.
 

[Lone Wolf]

14 minutes ago, deepdynamo said:

It will be interesting for us in the next WTC cycle.

Rohit wouldn't be there.

Kohli could stick around for 2 years (or not) on senior quota
KL will be booted out.
Ashwin-Jadeja will be on their last declining legs.
Shami wouldn't survive another WTC cycle.

Overall a well prepared AUS can beat us next time at home.
 

Ashwin would be done by the time Jadeja likely will be there.

Spinners have no use in NZ they will give us mambas.

 

It could be a very different line up.

I reckon we may even lose a test in SL next cycle.

 

[Serpico]

His choice to play bumrah in every home game is questionable too. If he breaks down during BGT, its on GG and RG 

 

And they're not debuting new pacers for back-up role despite what happened last time

[nevada]

On 10/20/2024 at 7:04 PM, Ultimate_Game said:

Problem is not Gambhir but seniors. We've too many non-performing "seniors". Test team (and ODI) is filled with 4 of them in Rohit, Kohli, KL Rahul and Siraj. Carrying 4 passengers is too much. Look at our T20 team who doesn't have to carry this baggage and compare it to Tests and ODI teams.

 

Recall the Eng series earlier this year when we had youngsters in Sarfaraz, Jurel, and Jaiswal in the team. Now it's back to seniors and we're imploding against NZ. Our lower order was the one doing the heavy lifting for so long as seniors have been there for the ride for too long. This Test shows what happens when lower order doesn't clean up seniors' mess.

 

Blame Gambhir all you want but the real problem are useless seniority quota. Kick them out and you'll see much better performances like our T20 team.

Seniors are a problem but wasn't Gambhir supposed to be the no nonsense guy who would rid the team of the baggage? I think Rohit, Kohli, Rahul and Siraj should go. It's just too much dead weight for the team to carry. 

[tapandrun]

On 10/20/2024 at 9:34 AM, Ultimate_Game said:

Problem is not Gambhir but seniors. We've too many non-performing "seniors". Test team (and ODI) is filled with 4 of them in Rohit, Kohli, KL Rahul and Siraj. Carrying 4 passengers is too much. Look at our T20 team who doesn't have to carry this baggage and compare it to Tests and ODI teams.

 

Recall the Eng series earlier this year when we had youngsters in Sarfaraz, Jurel, and Jaiswal in the team. Now it's back to seniors and we're imploding against NZ. Our lower order was the one doing the heavy lifting for so long as seniors have been there for the ride for too long. This Test shows what happens when lower order doesn't clean up seniors' mess.

 

Blame Gambhir all you want but the real problem are useless seniority quota. Kick them out and you'll see much better performances like our T20 team.

Over all apart from the Odi and t20i wc Ind team has not been able to perform in top gear.

Pre Asia cup Ind was not even considered the best In Asia, Ind lost to Bd in white-ball came close to losing a test, unable to play asia cup finals, 

Now lost to SL in white-ball.

 

Apart form Jaiswal no1 is able to play match winning innings from top 5 batters, all the run making is done by lower 5.

Ghambhir is doing what he was aginst of --Promoting player for brand value/Marketing -- Gill is an example of this 

Playing players who are not performing and hurting teams cause -- KL and Siraj

 

And its getting clear why Harshit was nt picked in playing 11 even after being the part of the 3 series by now

 

 

Edited October 22, 2024 by tapandrun