Gautam Gambhir new head coach

[Lord]

Just now, Tillu said:

 

Bharat Arun was just an exception not the rule.

 

He just did the job he was expected to do.

[neel roy]

1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

Vinay Kumar ???

Ye kya hai...

Abhishek Nayar is good..heard good things about him

Vinay kumar could bat. Gambhir wants bowlers who can bat. Forget bowling. 

[R!TTER]

Waiting for fireworks 

[Lord]

Is he still an MP? 

[Gollum]

2 minutes ago, Lord said:

Is he still an MP? 

He quit politics before this election. 

[Lord]

 

[jf1gp_1]

I think gambhir and agarkar will be a good combo

[Gollum]

What people forget about Bharat Arun is that he was there with MRF pace academy right since inception, as assistant to Dennis Lillee, then McGrath. Him and TA Sekhar. He put hard yards in domestic, IPL before being reunited with his buddy Shastri as national coach. Check what Siraj had to say about Arun, called him 'farishta', and someone who spotted, inspired and trained him early. Clearly he had the goods even before taking up the job. 

 

Abhishek Nayar is like that, anecdotes from DK and some recent youngsters (Venky Iyer, Varun C, Rinku, Rana, check post IPL 2024 final comments by KKR squad members). Tasted success in KKR. From what I have read about him, he is very good in grooming youngsters. 

 

Dunno about Vinay Kumar's creds but have faith in GG's judgement. Hope he does a good job, maybe Bharat Arun declined the job (he worked with Shastri as they were longtime friends and same age group), maybe his motivation and rigors of international travel were becoming a hindrance. GG must have seen something in Vinay, both are contemporaries albeit with different levels of success.  

 

Good luck to the new staff. Relieved that Rathour is on his way out, he presided over Indian batting falling to historic lows and so many talents unable to fulfil potential. Proper freeloader who tagged along without accountability. Jaiswal, Rinku, Abhishek, Gill etc. deserve to be coached by someone else. 

Edited July 9, 2024 by Gollum

[coffee_rules]

14 minutes ago, Lord said:

Is he still an MP? 

Quit politics as BJP didn’t give him a ticket in Delhi

[Lord]

12 minutes ago, Gollum said:

He quit politics before this election. 

 

Just now, coffee_rules said:

Quit politics as BJP didn’t give him a ticket in Delhi

 

Sad. Was doing a good job. We need more non politician in politics, if you know what I mean.

[Gollum]

Kohli, Ashwin, Rohit, Gambo were there in the XI/squad when Vinay bowled in WACA (2012) to Warner. Those were the days 

[maniac]

5 minutes ago, Gollum said:

What people forget about Bharat Arun is that he was there with MRF pace academy right since inception, as assistant to Dennis Lillee, then McGrath. Him and TA Sekhar. He put hard yards in domestic, IPL before being reunited with his buddy Shastri as national coach. Check what Siraj had to say about Arun, called him 'farishta', and someone who spotted, inspired and trained him early. Clearly he had the goods even before taking up the job. 

 

Abhishek Nayar is like that, anecdotes from DK and some recent youngsters (Venky Iyer, Varun C, Rinku, Rana, check post IPL 2024 final comments by KKR squad members). Tasted success in KKR. From what I have read about him, he is very good in grooming youngsters. 

 

Dunno about Vinay Kumar's creds but have faith in GG's judgement. Hope he does a good job, maybe Bharat Arun declined the job (he worked with Shastri as they were longtime friends and same age group), maybe his motivation and rigors of international travel were becoming a hindrance. GG must have seen something in Vinay, both are contemporaries albeit with different levels of success.  

 

Good luck to the new staff. Relieved that Rathour is on his way out, he presided over Indian batting falling to historic lows and so many talents unable to fulfil potential. Proper freeloader who tagged along without accountability. Jaiswal, Rinku, Abhishek, Gill etc. deserve to be coached by someone else. 

Ravi Shastri is not a “coach”, he is more like a great manager/ motivational speaker. All the coaching was done by Bharat Arun and that’s why he was hired. Not writing off Shastriji as his qualities are improtant too.

 

RD is more hands on coach qualified with the technical aspects of the job.

 

Gambhir right now is in the Shastri territory but since is a contemporary player might understand requirements of current day cricket.

 

i still feel can go either way.

 

 

[maniac]

46 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

He just did the job he was expected to do.

No he went above and beyond. Bharat Arun has been contributing to Indian fast bowling for decades now at both NCA and domestic /junior level. Even before he became coach he has hand in the development of lot of pacers. So you can’t write off he was being adequate. You can apply that to Mhambrey who got good returns and maybe was good at strategy.

[Lord]

Just now, maniac said:

Ravi Shastri is not a “coach”, he is more like a great manager/ motivational speaker. All the coaching was done by Bharat Arun and that’s why he was hired. Not writing off Shastriji as his qualities are improtant too.

 

RD is more hands on coach qualified with the technical aspects of the job.

 

Gambhir right now is in the Shastri territory but since is a contemporary player might understand requirements of current day cricket.

 

i still feel can go either way.

 

 

 

Don't think international players need coaching. They need management and atmosphere to perform alongwith strategies. Shastri and Dravid both did a fair job.

[Lord]

Just now, maniac said:

No he went above and beyond. Bharat Arun has been contributing to Indian fast bowling for decades now at both NCA and domestic /junior level. Even before he became coach he has hand in the development of lot of pacers. So you can’t write off he was being adequate. You can apply that to Mhambrey who got good returns and maybe was good at strategy.

 

I meant he was expected to do the job and did mighty well. Was replying to someone who said these are just rubber stamp posts without any role/expectations.

[Gollum]

3 minutes ago, maniac said:

Ravi Shastri is not a “coach”, he is more like a great manager/ motivational speaker. All the coaching was done by Bharat Arun and that’s why he was hired. Not writing off Shastriji as his qualities are improtant too.

 

RD is more hands on coach qualified with the technical aspects of the job.

 

Gambhir right now is in the Shastri territory but since is a contemporary player might understand requirements of current day cricket.

 

i still feel can go either way.

Yes. Chandrakant Pandit was KKR head coach, assisted by Bharat Arun and Abhishek Nayar, some very capable people....GG was mentor. 

[Lone Wolf]

this fits

 

[maniac]

Just now, Lord said:

 

Don't think international players need coaching. They need management and atmosphere to perform alongwith strategies. Shastri and Dravid both did a fair job.

Coaching doesn’t have to be teaching them how to hold a bat, it can also be how to adapt to a new condition. It can involve game play strategies.

 

we underestimated T Dilip. I have seen some old interviews of him, the guy has worked his way upto where he is with innovative techniques etc. and actual coaching education. That is equally important. 
 

 

[Lone Wolf]

9 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Kohli, Ashwin, Rohit, Gambo were there in the XI/squad when Vinay bowled in WACA (2012) to Warner. Those were the days 

That one particular shot off him scarred so many ... Trundler hate took its first breath that day.

[Gollum]

1 minute ago, Lone Wolf said:

That one particular shot off him scarred so many ... Trundler hate took its first breath that day.