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Posted
22 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

 

Tamil-Tamil Bhai Bhai/Behen maybe, kuch to banta hain! Too bad Drumpf didn't pick VR even with all the bending down he was doing. 

Maybe he will name him UN Ambassador and confuse him with Nikki Haley.

Posted
5 hours ago, goose said:

i am not aware that Christianity or Christians say Hindus are demon worshippers. your posts are a bit wierd. a wife encouraged her husband to take up his faith of birth. like a wife encourages you to take up golf. were you hoping for her to convert him to hinduism? what she did is why hindus are succeeding in the world.

thats like saying you are not aware that pork is haram. Google is your friend. Hindus succeed in the world by selling out their values and making sure their kids wont be hindus ? thats not called success. thats called randigiri. 

Posted
35 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

good thing that zen buddhism doesnt go around calling hindus demon worshippers, eh ?

Frankly , modern  Christians are also as agnostic/atheists as Hindus. They don’t believe the word of God as in Bible like Islamists. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Frankly , modern  Christians are also as agnostic/atheists as Hindus. They don’t believe the word of God as in Bible like Islamists. 

whatever gave you that idea ? modern christians, especially the protestant kind are OPENLY anti-hindu and spend their entire time calling us demon worshippers. You can google this if you wish. 

Christianity is a religion that OFFICIALLY considers us devil worshipper- it can be cited from their cannonical book as well as from their own websites.

 

Posted
2 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

whatever gave you that idea ? modern christians, especially the protestant kind are OPENLY anti-hindu and spend their entire time calling us demon worshippers. You can google this if you wish. 

Christianity is a religion that OFFICIALLY considers us devil worshipper- it can be cited from their cannonical book as well as from their own websites.

 

I am not talking of evangelists who attend Sunday mass regularly. I am talking of Christians wo are in jobs just like you and me. I know what they all preach in churches. I believe many Christians don’t visit church regularly 

Posted
1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

I am not talking of evangelists who attend Sunday mass regularly. I am talking of Christians wo are in jobs just like you and me. I know what they all preach in churches. I believe many Christians don’t visit church regularly 

that still doesnt change the fact that christians see as as devil worshippers and just because they dont attend church doesnt change their viewpoints. Its not like hindus who dont go to church suddenly stop believing in geeta gyaan or suddenly forget that asuras are bad, do they ?

Posted
5 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

that still doesnt change the fact that christians see as as devil worshippers and just because they dont attend church doesnt change their viewpoints. Its not like hindus who dont go to church suddenly stop believing in geeta gyaan or suddenly forget that asuras are bad, do they ?

You are seeing at a much basic level of theology. I am not denying that. But practically Christians we meet-in daily life are quite contrary to stereotypes. I can’t help how they feel inside. 

Posted
1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

You are seeing at a much basic level of theology. I am not denying that. But practically Christians we meet-in daily life are quite contrary to stereotypes. I can’t help how they feel inside. 

 

Have you EVER met a christian who'd encourage their spouse to reconnect with hinduism ? So why the heck are we celebrating this gora-sellout ? he is a reborn catholic. chances are 99% she also converted with him and 100% that their kids are also catholic now. What is celebratory about losing a hindu nari to the desert demon worshippers ?

 

Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

 

Have you EVER met a christian who'd encourage their spouse to reconnect with hinduism ? So why the heck are we celebrating this gora-sellout ? he is a reborn catholic. chances are 99% she also converted with him and 100% that their kids are also catholic now. What is celebratory about losing a hindu nari to the desert demon worshippers ?

 

Not all are politically motivated. I don’t know or care about this couple who have political ambitions. I have a gora colleague who has married a Gujju  and I know she  has not converted.  Same with Maxwell’s wife.  I know of another inter-religious couple and the guy is a Christian. Compared to Bobby Jindal or Nikki Haley, this one seems different. That’s about it

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Posted
2 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Not all are politically motivated. I don’t know or care about this couple who have political ambitions. I have a gora colleague who has married a Gujju  and I know she  has not converted.  Same with Maxwell’s wife.  I know of another inter-religious couple and the guy is a Christian. Compared to Bobby Jindal or Nikki Haley, this one seems different. That’s about it

whether they convert or not is irrelevant to whether their kids are converted or not. Funny how when interreligious coupling happens with the desert demon worshipper religions, its always an absorption within the next generation but somehow hindus feel proud that they lost one of their own to the desert cult, whether right away or by next generation.

 

Posted
6 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

whether they convert or not is irrelevant to whether their kids are converted or not. Funny how when interreligious coupling happens with the desert demon worshipper religions, its always an absorption within the next generation but somehow hindus feel proud that they lost one of their own to the desert cult, whether right away or by next generation.

 

Who is feeling proud that they lost one? I said comparatively losing one to Christians/Jews is better than to Muslims.  

Posted
5 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Who is feeling proud that they lost one? I said comparatively losing one to Christians/Jews is better than to Muslims.  

A loss is a loss. doesnt matter if you lost it to one desert demon cult or another one, they all hate us. 

 

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39 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

A loss is a loss. doesnt matter if you lost it to one desert demon cult or another one, they all hate us. 

 

Where do we draw the line for when a loss is a loss and when it is really not a loss? Is it religion? Region? Language?

 

For instance, should my Palakkad Iyer relatives rue that - growing up in BLR - I am practically a Kannadiga?  Should they rue a Palakkad Iyer girl marrying a non-Brahmin from Bihar? Is that a loss? 

 

In my viewpoint, these are individual choices. People should exert their choices and stick with those choices, and not worry about the community into which they were born ... simply by chance. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

 

Where do we draw the line for when a loss is a loss and when it is really not a loss? Is it religion? Region? Language?

 

For instance, should my Palakkad Iyer relatives rue that - growing up in BLR - I am practically a Kannadiga?  Should they rue a Palakkad Iyer girl marrying a non-Brahmin from Bihar? Is that a loss? 

 

In my viewpoint, these are individual choices. People should exert their choices and stick with those choices, and not worry about the community into which they were born ... simply by chance. 

 

Values always matter more than the medium through which you express them.

You are also born into the community called your family by simple chance. So no reason to worry about that community either. 

 

Sorry, but deracinated liberal views are nonsensical views for global colonialiam 2.0. Not a smart choice.

 

Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

 

Values always matter more than the medium through which you express them.

You are also born into the community called your family by simple chance. So no reason to worry about that community either. 

 

Sorry, but deracinated liberal views are nonsensical views for global colonialiam 2.0. Not a smart choice.

 

The family argument falls apart when you add in the fact that you actually interact with your family. My emotional obligation is only to the people with whom I interact closely. I have more affinity for my African-American neighbor than a random Hindu ICFer. 

 

As for values, the values of a brahmin may be disparate enough from those of non-brahmin in terms of diet. So, a marriage there is a "loss" to both "communities"? IMO, values are individual choices too.

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Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

The family argument falls apart when you add in the fact that you actually interact with your family. My emotional obligation is only to the people with whom I interact closely. I have more affinity for my African-American neighbor than a random Hindu ICFer. 

 

As for values, the values of a brahmin may be disparate enough from those of non-brahmin in terms of diet. So, a marriage there is a "loss" to both "communities"? IMO, values are individual choices too.

You also interact with your community and your ideological group. Trying to reduce values to diet reeks of some stupid periyarist nonsense to me. Diet is like 2% of what values are. 

As i said, your type of nonsense western liberal values are not something that serves the community or the lineage of an individual. 

Your obligations are to all the people you are obligated to. Emotional connection or lack of doesnt change obligation, thats western loser talk, sorry to say. Not interested in inferior western morals and values. We can clear cut see how well it competes with Asian ones the world over.

 

 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Muloghonto said:

obligation

That's an imposition. Who defines it? Who dictates it? Why should an individual comply with it?

 

Imposing such obligations is just another way of religious power-grabs characteristic of the proselytizing religions of the world.

 

As for values - one shares values of kindness, compassion and humility with all humanity. These transcend any group-considerations.

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