tweaker Posted July 25, 2024 Posted July 25, 2024 Ryan Ten Doeschate has joined the Indian team as assistant coach in Sri Lanka. Manucrick 1
putrevus Posted July 25, 2024 Posted July 25, 2024 So Gambhir is getting all the coaches he wanted, BCCI is doing the right thing.You have to give the head coach his choice of coaches.
Lord Posted July 25, 2024 Posted July 25, 2024 1 hour ago, putrevus said: So Gambhir is getting all the coaches he wanted, BCCI is doing the right thing.You have to give the head coach his choice of coaches. Why? Everyone should be there on merit.
putrevus Posted July 25, 2024 Posted July 25, 2024 4 minutes ago, Lord said: Why? Everyone should be there on merit. What do you mean by merit. Head coach decides what coaches he wants, if he feels like a coach with no experience is good for him based on his interaction with that coach.he should be allowed to be in the coaching staff.
vvvslaxman Posted July 25, 2024 Posted July 25, 2024 Is there any standard process to pick support staffs?
Lord Posted July 25, 2024 Posted July 25, 2024 1 hour ago, putrevus said: What do you mean by merit. Head coach decides what coaches he wants, if he feels like a coach with no experience is good for him based on his interaction with that coach.he should be allowed to be in the coaching staff. Merit is merit. Ability and past track record etc. Just like Gambhir was supposedly selected. A coach should be able to adjust with other coaches. Can't be allowed to bring his buddies in to make quick money. By your logic, captain should be allowed to select players too.and there definitely would be bias. Whats the point of selectors then? No other team follows this approach.
putrevus Posted July 25, 2024 Posted July 25, 2024 6 minutes ago, Lord said: Merit is merit. Ability and past track record etc. Just like Gambhir was supposedly selected. A coach should be able to adjust with other coaches. Can't be allowed to bring his buddies in to make quick money. By your logic, captain should be allowed to select players too.and there definitely would be bias. Whats the point of selectors then? No other team follows this approach. What is past record of Gambhir? Where has he coached? Yes coach should be allowed to pick his coaches, if he picks his own friends who are useless he will found out soon .He has to answer why he wants a particular coach.Players are not idiots. If something goes wrong coach is responsible and he gets fired not people who are picking the coaches if coach is not allowed to do so. Similarly, captain is always allowed to pick playing XI from the squad picked.Captain and coaches always should have a input on what type of players they want to be picked into the squad. W/L records goes on captain' name.
gattaca Posted July 25, 2024 Posted July 25, 2024 5 hours ago, putrevus said: So Gambhir is getting all the coaches he wanted, BCCI is doing the right thing.You have to give the head coach his choice of coaches. @New guy goes missing after blaming it on nepotism Chaos 1
Chaos Posted July 25, 2024 Posted July 25, 2024 1 minute ago, gattaca said: @New guy goes missing after blaming it on nepotism new guy is a fun poster, sometimes he is like bidens team but he swings fast to my team, trumpster Frustrated 1
gattaca Posted July 25, 2024 Posted July 25, 2024 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chaos said: new guy is a fun poster, sometimes he is like bidens team but he swings fast to my team, trumpster lol no new guy is pakka democrat. There were multiple discussions about him disliking modi and why he shouldn’t be PM. He used to active poster here till 2014. There was one more poster from New Jersey named outsider he also quit after 2014. Edited July 25, 2024 by gattaca Chaos and Frustrated 2
Chakdephatte Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 15 hours ago, Lord said: Why? Everyone should be there on merit. Gambhir himself got there because of hype/PR, luck, or whatever. But not merit, he has zero experience.
JaFanatic Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 11 hours ago, gattaca said: lol no new guy is pakka democrat. There were multiple discussions about him disliking modi and why he shouldn’t be PM. He used to active poster here till 2014. There was one more poster from New Jersey named outsider he also quit after 2014. He was one of the funniest posters back then gattaca 1
Lord Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 8 hours ago, Chakdephatte said: Gambhir himself got there because of hype/PR, luck, or whatever. But not merit, he has zero experience. Won with KKR and took LSG to consecutive playoffs. So something there atleast Manucrick and Ultimate_Game 2
Lord Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 23 hours ago, putrevus said: What is past record of Gambhir? Where has he coached? Yes coach should be allowed to pick his coaches, if he picks his own friends who are useless he will found out soon .He has to answer why he wants a particular coach.Players are not idiots. If something goes wrong coach is responsible and he gets fired not people who are picking the coaches if coach is not allowed to do so. Similarly, captain is always allowed to pick playing XI from the squad picked.Captain and coaches always should have a input on what type of players they want to be picked into the squad. W/L records goes on captain' name. Input is different from picking them solely. Selectors are also responsible for team's performances. Selectors also get fired so why can't they select on their own? In any professional environment you have to adjust with whoever you are working with and not bring your own favourites. Squad is first selected by selectors only. Captain and coach should have input/vote but not the final decision.
Chakdephatte Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Lord said: Won with KKR and took LSG to consecutive playoffs. So something there atleast Who was KKR's coach? Who was LSG's coach? I hope you know the answers.
Lord Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 1 minute ago, Chakdephatte said: Who was KKR's coach? Who was LSG's coach? I hope you know the answers. Yeah he was mentor which is another name for same job. He is the common link and credited for reversal in KKR's fate with Pandit coaching them since 2022
putrevus Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 18 minutes ago, Lord said: Input is different from picking them solely. Selectors are also responsible for team's performances. Selectors also get fired so why can't they select on their own? In any professional environment you have to adjust with whoever you are working with and not bring your own favourites. Squad is first selected by selectors only. Captain and coach should have input/vote but not the final decision. Who said selectors are responsible for team's performances.How many selectors got sacked. Head coach has to feel comfortable with the coaches he is working with, and that is why he needs to get his coaches. Captain if he does not feel comfortable with Head coach, head coach has to go. Captain is still the boss in cricket.
rollingstoned Posted July 26, 2024 Author Posted July 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Lord said: Input is different from picking them solely. Selectors are also responsible for team's performances. Selectors also get fired so why can't they select on their own? In any professional environment you have to adjust with whoever you are working with and not bring your own favourites. Squad is first selected by selectors only. Captain and coach should have input/vote but not the final decision. It's not the same comparison. Letting the coach pick who he wants is like allowing your architect to tell you whom he wants as his contractors. Board doesn't need to force a coaching role on a head coach unless it's someone they specifically have an eye on.
Lord Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 17 hours ago, rollingstoned said: It's not the same comparison. Letting the coach pick who he wants is like allowing your architect to tell you whom he wants as his contractors. Board doesn't need to force a coaching role on a head coach unless it's someone they specifically have an eye on. It's not forcing. Its giving jobs to people appropriate for the role irrespective of anyone's choice. Bowling coach for example needs to be well versed in bowling actions,fitness, be a good communicator. He'll converse more with players than Head coach. So why should head coach choose him.
vishalvirsingh Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 is Morne morkel confirmed as BOWLING COACH????
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