Can BCCI field two teams officially ?

[Kron]

4 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Considering the huge population of a cricket players in our country. With the current one team setup, not every player is able to get their rightful chance in the playing XI.

 

Can BCCI take a recommendation to ICC to start fielding two teams officially. Other team can be renamed as "Bharat" and it can consist of the players who are unable to break in the main "Indian" team due to various factors.

 

Think otherwise, there are hardly few teams which are competitive. Ind, Aus, Eng, NZ & SA.

We don't play with Pakistan and currently their standard is no better than Bangladesh. Teams like SL, WI aren't coming up anymore with good players and are basically format/condition based teams just like Afghanistan.

It's the same in rugby. Barely like 3 top teams. Rest are just place holders. Btw aus is not one of those top teams in rugby union. 

 

6 or 7 nations all up play rugby seriously. 

 

Samoa, Tonga all lose players to new Zealand and Australia. So they end up having scrubs. 

 

Max 9 teams. Of them 3 are top sides. 4th place to 6 is competitive. 

 

And then we have the island teams like Fiji Samoa and Tonga to make uo number.s

 

Not long ago Samoa lost 95 to 10 or something lmao

[Norman]

Nope. Not logistically possible. 

 

Only thing they can do is pack the bilaterals closely together and pick completely different sides alternatively. 

[putrevus]

No they cannot, quantity does not mean they have quality.

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

No they cannot, quantity does not mean they have quality.

We have enough quality.

We thrashed Australian full strength team in Australia with our backup players.

 

A second team will be competitive and give run for money to many teams.

Imagine a 5 match ODI series between

 

Rohit

Gill 

Kohli

S Iyer

Pant (wk)

Dube

Axar

Arshdeep

Bumrah

Kuldeep

Siraj

 

Vs 

 

Jaiswal

Abhishek

Ruturaj

Samson (wk)

Rinku

Parag or Tilak

Washington

Harshit

Akashdeep

Mayank

Varun C/Markande

 

It will be a competitive game 

Edited July 20, 2024 by singhvivek141

[putrevus]

4 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

We have enough quality.

We thrashed Australian full strength team in Australia with our backup players.

 

A second team will be competitive and give run for money to many teams.

Imagine a 5 match ODI series between

 

Rohit

Gill 

Kohli

S Iyer

Pant (wk)

Dube

Axar

Arshdeep

Bumrah

Kuldeep

Siraj

 

Vs 

 

Jaiswal

Abhishek

Ruturaj

Samson (wk)

Rinku

Parag or Tilak

Washington

Harshit

Akashdeep

Mayank

Varun C/Markande

 

It will be a competitive game 

You are talking about t20s???  Any team can form two different t20 teams and be competitive.

 

Other formats, I don't think so.

 

 

[singhvivek141]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

You are talking about t20s???  Any team can form two different t20 teams and be competitive.

 

Other formats, I don't think so.

 

 

Yeah let's start from T20's.

 

Though I am hopeful for ODI's as well.

 

Tests, its tough to say. Unless we reward the FC performers like Baba Indrajith, Ankit Bawne

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said:

Yeah let's start from T20's.

 

Though I am hopeful for ODI's as well.

 

Tests, its tough to say. Unless we reward the FC performers like Baba Indrajith, Ankit Bawne

WI and Australia could literally form two teams and beat every team in all formats.

 

They had that quality. IMO we need to find fast bowlers other than Bumrah before we have these topics.

 

Fast bowlers determine quality of the teams.

 

 

[Tillu]

Even if you consider this a possibility, we'll be trolled mercilessly even after having two teams and not winning any silverware.

[Lone Wolf]

6 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Considering the huge population of a cricket players in our country. With the current one team setup, not every player is able to get their rightful chance in the playing XI.

 

Can BCCI take a recommendation to ICC to start fielding two teams officially. Other team can be renamed as "Bharat" and it can consist of the players who are unable to break in the main "Indian" team due to various factors.

 

Think otherwise, there are hardly few teams which are competitive. Ind, Aus, Eng, NZ & SA.

We don't play with Pakistan and currently their standard is no better than Bangladesh. Teams like SL, WI aren't coming up anymore with good players and are basically format/condition based teams just like Afghanistan.

Could be counter productive and can give rise to already region based divide... ICT even acts as a doze of nationalism a unifying factor in itself regardless of caste creed or even religion.

 

Though we can make schedule even more tighter and can host/tour multiple countries and don't have long breaks at all.

Also bring back Challenger trophy type tournaments.

[putrevus]

7 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Considering the huge population of a cricket players in our country. With the current one team setup, not every player is able to get their rightful chance in the playing XI.

 

Can BCCI take a recommendation to ICC to start fielding two teams officially. Other team can be renamed as "Bharat" and it can consist of the players who are unable to break in the main "Indian" team due to various factors.

 

Think otherwise, there are hardly few teams which are competitive. Ind, Aus, Eng, NZ & SA.

We don't play with Pakistan and currently their standard is no better than Bangladesh. Teams like SL, WI aren't coming up anymore with good players and are basically format/condition based teams just like Afghanistan.

Don't worry IPL will evolve into all year affair in next ten to 15 years.

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

WI and Australia could literally form two teams and beat every team in all formats.

 

They had that quality. IMO we need to find fast bowlers other than Bumrah before we have these topics.

 

Fast bowlers determine quality of the teams.

 

 

Agree, but I think we have fast bowlers who can take up the mantle.

For ex Australia, we see a big Gulf in quality after the big 3. Ellis is already 29, don't think Lance Morris or that GT quick Johnson is any special.

 

Bumrah is one in the world, a great in all 3 formats. Neither Starc, nor Cummins, nor Hazelwood are so good.

 

[Ultimate_Game]

8 hours ago, MediumPacer said:

No,we don't have that many good players.

 

How many test openers do we have or no 3 .or fast bowlers or pace bowling all rounders .Also lots of poor fielders,how many slip catchers or good outfielders do we have and then all these bowlers who can't bat. .

 

8 hours ago, MediumPacer said:

Also dearth of power hitters .

 

Here comes the Pak fan out of the woodwork 

 

Our 2nd XI can beat most teams like Pak, B'desh, SL, WI etc.

[putrevus]

3 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Agree, but I think we have fast bowlers who can take up the mantle.

For ex Australia, we see a big Gulf in quality after the big 3. Ellis is already 29, don't think Lance Morris or that GT quick Johnson is any special.

 

Bumrah is one in the world, a great in all 3 formats. Neither Starc, nor Cummins, nor Hazelwood are so good.

 

Bumrah is very good, he took his first step towards greatness in last t20 world cup.

 

Australians as a group have achieved lot more. They have stayed fit for more than a decade, it is remarkable what they have done in test cricket.They will end up with 300-350 plus test wickets each which is great.

 

I think they are reason why Aussies have no bench strength. They rarely get injured.Shami is out since last Nov,Mayank bowls 10 overs in IPL , he is out for 6 months and counting.

 

Bumrah had his fitness issues.Hope he stays fit.Other than Shami, I have not found any new great bowler in Indian set up yet who can be compared in quality with Bumrah and Shami.

 

Bumrah is the best.But I like watching Shami more, there is something special about Shami.

 

Siraj is done, Akashdeep not sold on him.These two will get hit a lot in Australia, I hope I am wrong about these two.They need to find two fast bowlers for that tour.

 

Edited July 20, 2024 by putrevus

[bowl_out]

I don't think they can have two India teams compete in the same tournament like World cup or CT.

 

Instead what BCCI can do is to build completely different teams for different formats and have them play against different teams at the same time. For example, I don't see why we can't have a Test series against NZ at the same time that we have a T20 series against SL. It requires a lot of planning though, and ensuring that there is adequate support staff for each format in addition to clearly identifying different format players. This way, BCCI can have more calendar days for active cricket matches involving the Indian team.

[deathmonger]

3 hours ago, bowl_out said:

I don't think they can have two India teams compete in the same tournament like World cup or CT.

 

Instead what BCCI can do is to build completely different teams for different formats and have them play against different teams at the same time. For example, I don't see why we can't have a Test series against NZ at the same time that we have a T20 series against SL. It requires a lot of planning though, and ensuring that there is adequate support staff for each format in addition to clearly identifying different format players. This way, BCCI can have more calendar days for active cricket matches involving the Indian team.

Yeah this is doable and good cause there is less overlap.

 

I think something similar happened in 2021 with Ind playing in Eng in tests as well as ODIs in SL.

[Vilander]

India is the country variant of a morbidly obese person. 

 

 

Just because India has more population than rest of the cricket playing world ( including pathetically overpophlated bongladeeesh and Pak) together does not mean India can have multiple teams. 

 

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, Vilander said:

India is the country variant of a morbidly obese person. 

 

 

Just because India has more population than rest of the cricket playing world ( including pathetically overpophlated bongladeeesh and Pak) together does not mean India can have multiple teams. 

 

That's because of our diet which is primarily carb heavy with less focus on protein and fats.

Even none of our school textbooks too educate us about the diet chart. 

 

The minute people start switching to carb less diet, you can see the change in 2-3 months itself. 

Ofcourse, it easier to say as we are habitatuated to such diet...plus the carb less diet is costly as well.

 

 

Edited July 21, 2024 by singhvivek141

[singhvivek141]

11 hours ago, putrevus said:

Bumrah is very good, he took his first step towards greatness in last t20 world cup.

 

Australians as a group have achieved lot more. They have stayed fit for more than a decade, it is remarkable what they have done in test cricket.They will end up with 300-350 plus test wickets each which is great.

 

I think they are reason why Aussies have no bench strength. They rarely get injured.Shami is out since last Nov,Mayank bowls 10 overs in IPL , he is out for 6 months and counting.

 

Bumrah had his fitness issues.Hope he stays fit.Other than Shami, I have not found any new great bowler in Indian set up yet who can be compared in quality with Bumrah and Shami.

 

Bumrah is the best.But I like watching Shami more, there is something special about Shami.

 

Siraj is done, Akashdeep not sold on him.These two will get hit a lot in Australia, I hope I am wrong about these two.They need to find two fast bowlers for that tour.

 

Bowlers need time to develop. That's why they are supposed to include by the age of 23-24 so that by the tike they hit 27-28 years of age they become aware of their strengths and weaknesses.

 

Shami too didn't perform any exceptional in his first tour to Australia, NZ or Eng. But he improved with time by 2016-2017 onwards (when he has 3-4 years of international experience).

[jf1gp_1]

first title in 13 years, lets remain grounded

[express bowling]

17 hours ago, Tillu said:

Even if you consider this a possibility, we'll be trolled mercilessly even after having two teams and not winning any silverware.

 

My suggestion is .... the best 2 A-Teams of the year ( decided by a tournament ) will get to play the Senior teams. 

 

P.S .. most countries just want to make money by playing India. Not bothered about silverware.