Kron Posted July 21, 2024 Posted July 21, 2024 18 hours ago, putrevus said: WI and Australia could literally form two teams and beat every team in all formats. They had that quality. IMO we need to find fast bowlers other than Bumrah before we have these topics. Fast bowlers determine quality of the teams. We have plenty of talented fast bowlers though? Just cause our moron management don't play or prepare them to be ready when there an opportunity presents itself doesn't mean we don't have quality. First give chances and then bark. When I say chances, like 2 series. Not one off rubbish and then start slandering the young talents. We have plenty of talented fast bowlers. Like actual bowlers who can bowl spells. Not like prokistan, aus or ingerlund
rkt.india Posted July 21, 2024 Posted July 21, 2024 2 hours ago, Vilander said: India is the country variant of a morbidly obese person. Just because India has more population than rest of the cricket playing world ( including pathetically overpophlated bongladeeesh and Pak) together does not mean India can have multiple teams. Broshree vilander. Check the obesity of America and they are still the top Olympic nation.
Kron Posted July 21, 2024 Posted July 21, 2024 2 hours ago, Vilander said: India is the country variant of a morbidly obese person. Just because India has more population than rest of the cricket playing world ( including pathetically overpophlated bongladeeesh and Pak) together does not mean India can have multiple teams. Because of diet. Maybe put down the dosa idli appalam Paratha dum aloo and all high carb tasty shitee then we will see way more athletes. We have plenty of talents. Too many different types of gene pool We can have 2 easily if we really wanted to.
singhvivek141 Posted July 21, 2024 Author Posted July 21, 2024 33 minutes ago, Kron said: Because of diet. Maybe put down the dosa idli appalam Paratha dum aloo and all high carb tasty shitee then we will see way more athletes. We have plenty of talents. Too many different types of gene pool We can have 2 easily if we really wanted to. Govt need to subsidize the healthy foods and distribute their seeds to the farmers. Grains like Amaranth, Quinoa are extremely costly. Black Rice which is quite healthy is hardly found in the cities. In the childhood we used to eat rotis made of red wheat. Now it's nowhere to be found. Govt is not selling seeds at their yeild per hectare is lower, but they are rich in the nutrients and have lower carb load. putrevus and Kron 1 1
Kron Posted July 21, 2024 Posted July 21, 2024 36 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Govt need to subsidize the healthy foods and distribute their seeds to the farmers. Grains like Amaranth, Quinoa are extremely costly. Black Rice which is quite healthy is hardly found in the cities. In the childhood we used to eat rotis made of red wheat. Now it's nowhere to be found. Govt is not selling seeds at their yeild per hectare is lower, but they are rich in the nutrients and have lower carb load. Just eat meat. Sea food fresh meat. Or in villages they cook fresh meat. Healthy vegetables. Etc. I have seen so many strong tough rural people Even the skinny tune ones can lift like 60 to 100 kg over their head. I am talking oldies. Just imagine young fit ones. Both in north and south. I have seen far too many examples. I absolutely refuse to believe that we can't have 2 sets of teams with fast bowlers. There is so much untapped potential in India. Yea for wheat there is buck wheat. There is something called raagi etc. Plenty of stuff is available. singhvivek141 1
deathmonger Posted July 21, 2024 Posted July 21, 2024 Everything is tied to India becoming richer. By the 2040s India will literally win everything when it is a $8000 USD pci country.
Need4Speed Posted July 21, 2024 Posted July 21, 2024 imo..making 2 teams is not just because we have enough players for 2 quality teams..its about giving opportunity to B team to get more international cricket exposure to grow into quality..who otherwise wont find place in A side due to seniority quota, regional bias, marketing and dus tarah k aur siyappe.. As of now the topmost quality is defined by who has Bumrah..if we remove Bumrah from team A..they will struggle too.. atleast with 2 teams likes of Sharmas,Ranas,Akashdeeps etc wont have sit out and miss good amount of international exposure.. Another benefit will be the Gill type stat padders wont get to play against weaker oppositions to stat pad...and be pushed to improve their game against top sides.. singhvivek141 1
Vilander Posted July 21, 2024 Posted July 21, 2024 17 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: That's because of our diet which is primarily carb heavy with less focus on protein and fats. Even none of our school textbooks too educate us about the diet chart. The minute people start switching to carb less diet, you can see the change in 2-3 months itself. Ofcourse, it easier to say as we are habitatuated to such diet...plus the carb less diet is costly as well. Obese as in, too much of a thing that is good in correct amount. For instance in a country the size of India if the population is say 250 or 350 mil and in the correct demographic scale it's good but 1.4 bil lol. So obese like an unhealthy man. Yes diet amoung people is also bad.
Vilander Posted July 21, 2024 Posted July 21, 2024 16 hours ago, rkt.india said: Broshree vilander. Check the obesity of America and they are still the top Olympic nation. Where stat exists it exists. What are malnourishment stats of India. This is not a pissing contest rkt, Americans are obese they also have large numbers of athletes with university programs and national programs to excel in various sports, infrastructure to create them. India with its 1.4 bil mouths to feed hardly has enough to actually feed. 1/3rd of all malnourished children in the world are from India. Close to 235 million. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/malnutrition-rate-by-country 8
Kron Posted July 22, 2024 Posted July 22, 2024 16 hours ago, deathmonger said: Everything is tied to India becoming richer. By the 2040s India will literally win everything when it is a $8000 USD pci country. If india allocate enough resources for football like most top nations do then we would be a top 15 side too. Potentially higher. Cricket reigns supreme though.
singhvivek141 Posted July 22, 2024 Author Posted July 22, 2024 3 hours ago, Vilander said: Obese as in, too much of a thing that is good in correct amount. For instance in a country the size of India if the population is say 250 or 350 mil and in the correct demographic scale it's good but 1.4 bil lol. So obese like an unhealthy man. Yes diet amoung people is also bad. Agree on the population, more mouths to feed with the same land area. It's bound to impact somewhere. Focus is on yield rather the nutrition.
shiviash Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) is the governing body for cricket in India. Established in 1928, it oversees all aspects of domestic and international cricket in the country, including organizing tournaments, managing player contracts, and promoting the sport at all levels.
deathmonger Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 On 7/22/2024 at 6:19 AM, Kron said: If india allocate enough resources for football like most top nations do then we would be a top 15 side too. Potentially higher. Cricket reigns supreme though. has to happen naturally. kerala, goa, northeast, bengal is a pool of 150 millionish where football is played by the blue collar class. By 2050 we should be doing well on an asia level. Kron 1
Ultimate_Game Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 2 hours ago, deathmonger said: has to happen naturally. kerala, goa, northeast, bengal is a pool of 150 millionish where football is played by the blue collar class. By 2050 we should be doing well on an asia level. Unless you bring money to the sport, nothing will happen. You may get an odd player or a fluke result but for you to become a better team there needs to be money and success for people to aspire to. I doubt top Indian footie player even earns the same as a top IT professional, forget competing with Cricket. Unless we change this reality, wouldn't make much of a difference no matter what you do.
deathmonger Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Unless you bring money to the sport, nothing will happen. You may get an odd player or a fluke result but for you to become a better team there needs to be money and success for people to aspire to. I doubt top Indian footie player even earns the same as a top IT professional, forget competing with Cricket. Unless we change this reality, wouldn't make much of a difference no matter what you do. money will flow as the economy grows
Ultimate_Game Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 Just now, deathmonger said: money will flow as the economy grows Hasn't made a difference to non-cricketing sports. Economy has grown manifold since 90s and we're still poor in majority of the sports and I don't see money flowing in - at least close to what it should. Look at Cricket from 90s to now, and then compare any other sports from then to now. The difference is stark. Unless you change it, nothing will make a difference. Money won't flow by itself and effort needs to be made. I doubt we'll be able to do so as it takes a lot of long term planning and focus.
deathmonger Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said: Hasn't made a difference to non-cricketing sports. Economy has grown manifold since 90s and we're still poor in majority of the sports and I don't see money flowing in - at least close to what it should. Look at Cricket from 90s to now, and then compare any other sports from then to now. The difference is stark. Unless you change it, nothing will make a difference. Money won't flow by itself and effort needs to be made. I doubt we'll be able to do so as it takes a lot of long term planning and focus. ??? cricket we were decent in the 90s and we are world class now. badminton, wrestling, boxing, shooting, archery, athletics we were no-hopers until the 2000s. now we are ok-ish at them and have won olympic/world medals. these sports have existed for decades (more than a century tbh). the growth is as much just that we are starting from a lower base. its only from the late 2000s we have started medaling in world wrestling and badminton championships. give it another 15-20 years, we'll become powerhouses in those. these six sports will by themselves bring us 25-30 medals by 2036. a few other sports will become what those six are now. maybe cycling, rowing, swimming, fencing etc. there are heaps of sports. cricket will be on another level. US in basketball level. Edited July 26, 2024 by deathmonger Ultimate_Game 1
deathmonger Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 34 minutes ago, deathmonger said: ??? cricket we were decent in the 90s and we are world class now. badminton, wrestling, boxing, shooting, archery, athletics we were no-hopers until the 2000s. now we are ok-ish at them and have won olympic/world medals. these sports have existed for decades (more than a century tbh). the growth is as much just that we are starting from a lower base. its only from the late 2000s we have started medaling in world wrestling and badminton championships. give it another 15-20 years, we'll become powerhouses in those. these six sports will by themselves bring us 25-30 medals by 2036. a few other sports will become what those six are now. maybe cycling, rowing, swimming, fencing etc. there are heaps of sports. cricket will be on another level. US in basketball level. Actually now that I think of it - next batch will be table tennis, tennis, squash which are sports we are somewhat ok at and at least medal at cwg/asiad level. by 2036 i expect at least a bronze in these. cycling, swimming, rowing, fencing, divine will be the last set we crack. Maybe a first medal in one of these in 2040s?
tapandrun Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 Think officially no, They can play a tournament but that will not be official match. Aus did that 1994–95, the (then) Benson and Hedges World Series Cup. So unofficially think many boards can officially field multiple teams at least in t20s. Ind can do that, Eng can do that, WI can do, Aus can do it.
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