Stan AF Posted August 31, 2024 Posted August 31, 2024 47 minutes ago, putrevus said: I understand it is hard for you to grasp these things. What I can't understand is how moderators in this forum let fans peddle lies. But then again it is Kohli fans, so what can one expect.
Stan AF Posted August 31, 2024 Posted August 31, 2024 Kohli by all standards had a decent run of 5-6 years at best. That he has been in terminal decline since 2020 and hasn't been booted out of the test team is itself a miracle in itself.
Majestic Posted August 31, 2024 Posted August 31, 2024 Test Stats in 2020s :- Root - 55 Smith - 45 Kohli - 33
Stan AF Posted August 31, 2024 Posted August 31, 2024 BCCI made a road for him to get a test 100 after 3 years as it was becoming embarassing.
Bigg Brother Posted August 31, 2024 Posted August 31, 2024 Let's not derail thread about bringing Kohli here. The thread is about two test greats and giants which Kohli isn't Stan AF and Number 1 1
vvvslaxman Posted August 31, 2024 Posted August 31, 2024 Root's sheer consistency is amazing. He has achieved his second peak. Kohli never achieved his second peak. It is a mark of his class.
Ultimate_Game Posted September 1, 2024 Posted September 1, 2024 Root needs 3 decent to good years and he should be able to get past Tendulkar. Though he needs to score runs in Aus as that's a huge blemish at the moment.
jf1gp_1 Posted September 1, 2024 Posted September 1, 2024 16 hours ago, Stan AF said: False analogy. Cook was nowhere close to Joe roots stellar form that he's in now. Blud is in the best form of his life now. Cook retired at 33 (same age as root is today). He had 33 centuries 12.5k runs and got a 100 in his final innings. Yes he was struggling towards the end but his and roots todays stat are no different.
Majestic Posted September 1, 2024 Posted September 1, 2024 53 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: Cook retired at 33 (same age as root is today). He had 33 centuries 12.5k runs and got a 100 in his final innings. Yes he was struggling towards the end but his and roots todays stat are no different. Number of innings and batting average are different.
Bigg Brother Posted September 1, 2024 Posted September 1, 2024 1 hour ago, jf1gp_1 said: Cook retired at 33 (same age as root is today). He had 33 centuries 12.5k runs and got a 100 in his final innings. Yes he was struggling towards the end but his and roots todays stat are no different. Cook had decent conversation rate. Root was struggling converting between 2016-2020. So many 50s-60s-80s but not able to convert it. And then he missed out few due to brainless Bazballing. Cook had terrible last few years(Post 0-5 Ashes). Was playing purely on reputation. Stan AF 1
Stan AF Posted September 1, 2024 Posted September 1, 2024 200 catches: Additionally, Root reached 200 catches in Test cricket during the Lord's Test. He caught Nishan Madushka and Pathum Nissanka, tying him with Jacques Kallis for the third most catches by a non-wicketkeeper. He is only ten catches behind the leader, Rahul Dravid. I hope Steve Smith eventually catches upto Joe Root in test catches. He's naturally a better athlete than root.
goose Posted September 3, 2024 Posted September 3, 2024 I find root to be utterly unwatchable Prabhdeep Singh, AuxiliA and Laaloo 1 2
putrevus Posted September 4, 2024 Posted September 4, 2024 On 8/31/2024 at 12:09 PM, singhvivek141 said: To be honest, Kohli in Tests does have declined at an alarming rate. I am not sure what's his current stats are post 2020, last I checked it was around 32 (that too due to one hundred in the test rubber on a flat pitch)...excluding that it was in mid 20's. The way Jaiswal & Jurel showed the character in the England series, Kohli's presence was never felt once we dropped Patidar. Sarfaraz & even DDP scored runs vs English men. Jurel's knock was a great combination of defensive as well as offensive game. Let us see his post 2019-2023 till world cup stats with current Indian batsmen .Rohit mind you did not play in both SA and NZ or his stats would be worse. Batting stats What I want to know if there is anyway we can get the batting stats of opposing teams . India has toured Australia, NZ, SA and England . At home they have been playing on bunsen burners. Only in last England series we could say pitches were decent which Kohli missed out. This is season which will make or break Kohli's test career.No player is indispensible. BTW India would won in India without Sachin too .during his 24 year career too more or less the same as they did during his career.
Stan AF Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 Thank you. I was just thinking of bumping this thread up. I guess it's safe to say he will score one or two more in these highway roads.
putrevus Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 It is only matter of time and if Root cares enough for this meaningless record. 99.94 has significance but not this one. Playing 200 tests to score most runs is not a great achievement.
Gollum Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 Root is a worthier candidate than Cook, Sanga, Dravid, Ponting, maybe even Kallis. Though I fervently hope Jaiswal smashes this record eventually. If Jaiswal is able to do it he will do it at an average of 60+ (because number of tests per year will go down) making him undisputed GOAT.
cricspirit Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 38 minutes ago, putrevus said: It is only matter of time and if Root cares enough for this meaningless record. 99.94 has significance but not this one. Playing 200 tests to score most runs is not a great achievement. Root is close to 150 tests. He likely needs 35-40 more tests to get to 16,000 and overtake Sachin. This means he would have played around 190 tests by then. Not so different than the 200 tests Sachin played. I would say playing close to 200 tests is no easy feat unless someone is just a passenger and is in the team due to good luck. Irrespective of this record or any other record broken, Sachin Tendulkar's name stands tall. He is not respected and accepted around the world just cause of the stats.
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