maniac Posted July 30, 2024 Author Posted July 30, 2024 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: As a fan i am feeling a lot more secure with this structure than the super star one-dimensional line up. Even captain will be happy to have many options available at his disposal. After Rohit-Kohli era there is no bonafide superstar. Maybe Bumrah. the closest I can see get to that megastar level in Indian team is Jaiswal. Gill at best will have Rahul Dravid level craze.
Ultimate_Game Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 13 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: He is more than a part timer. He is a level above Livingstone. He is a regular bowler for his state in T20 atleast. India has to harness this. When MSD could turn into a nothing bowler Kedar into some kind of useful part timer why not encourage this guy who already has some skill. Dhoni had the right idea. He always had players who could roll their arms over and trusted them to do so. Raina used to bowl regularly, he made Yuvraj into a genuine all-rounder who could bowl 10 overs, and even turned a batsman like Kedar into someone who could bowl 5-6 overs per match.We need to follow the same approach and we need to prioritize players like Abhishek and Parag over pure batsmen like Ruturaj and even Gill. We can't have more than 2-3 pure batsmen who can't roll their arms over. And only 2 pure bowlers who can't hold the bat. Bumrah is one of those and preferably we focus on getting bowlers who can score some useful runs like Arshdeep and Harshit Rana and move away from likes of Siraj, Chahal who're poor in batting and fielding and even the bowling isn't that great. Norman and vvvslaxman 2
Ultimate_Game Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 3 minutes ago, maniac said: After Rohit-Kohli era there is no bonafide superstar. Maybe Bumrah. the closest I can see get to that megastar level in Indian team is Jaiswal. Gill at best will have Rahul Dravid level craze. They're trying to make Gill one by pushing him into every format. Hope better sense prevails and we play players suited to formats than try to make them multi-format "stars" just for the sake of it. That's why we need to push likes of Abhishek in T20s and Jaiswal in ODIs. It's criminal Abhishek was dropped after scoring a 40 ball 100 in his 2nd T20 and after he was able to match Head in IPL. And not including Jaiswal in ODIs despite him being our top performer in Tests and T20s is just plain stupid. There's no plausible rationale for it other than protecting the places of seniors in ODIs. nevada 1
New guy Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 11 minutes ago, maniac said: After Rohit-Kohli era there is no bonafide superstar. Maybe Bumrah. the closest I can see get to that megastar level in Indian team is Jaiswal. Gill at best will have Rahul Dravid level craze. It took Kohli some time to reach that super stardom, he was pretty average at first before he suddenly burst in all format. But a true all format star is unlikely in the future no matter how much BCCI try to force This is also because we have now very vast and diverse talent so we won't need to force a Dravid in ODIs or a Kohli in t20 going forward. maniac and Ultimate_Game 1 1
Ultimate_Game Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 32 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: As a fan i am feeling a lot more secure with this structure than the super star one-dimensional line up. Even captain will be happy to have many options available at his disposal. Team over individuals is what we should focus on maniac, vvvslaxman and singhvivek141 3
singhvivek141 Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 1 hour ago, maniac said: After Rohit-Kohli era there is no bonafide superstar. Maybe Bumrah. the closest I can see get to that megastar level in Indian team is Jaiswal. Gill at best will have Rahul Dravid level craze. What do you think the reason for that ? Is it because 1. Fans across the country are more aware now 2. The talent inflow from IPL means no one can remain the "boss". 3. The upcominh commentators and experts have understanding of modern day cricket and it's challenges 4. Any other reason
maniac Posted July 30, 2024 Author Posted July 30, 2024 31 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: What do you think the reason for that ? Is it because 1. Fans across the country are more aware now 2. The talent inflow from IPL means no one can remain the "boss". 3. The upcominh commentators and experts have understanding of modern day cricket and it's challenges 4. Any other reason we used to celebrate good among mediocrity. Now we pick the exceptional among good so it’s more challenging
maniac Posted July 30, 2024 Author Posted July 30, 2024 This kid is a good bowler now in this context his batting looks way better as I wasn’t sold on his batting like others.
maniac Posted July 30, 2024 Author Posted July 30, 2024 I might have started this on a lighter note but this guy has some mad skills with the ball. Most importantly has the bowler attitude instead of going through the motions.
Sgattick10 Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 (edited) Let me go a step further and say he is going to be better then Rashid Kha Edited July 30, 2024 by Sgattick10 maniac 1
prudent_kreeda Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 Not sure about fellow ICFERS . But for me it was good knock in this pitch by Parag. Played with maturity , but should have kept faith on Sundar and played bit longer. Number and maniac 2
maniac Posted July 30, 2024 Author Posted July 30, 2024 10 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said: Not sure about fellow ICFERS . But for me it was good knock in this pitch by Parag. Played with maturity , but should have kept faith on Sundar and played bit longer. Sundar is technically more compact than Riyan however Riyan can be more destructive.
Need4Speed Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 41 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said: Not sure about fellow ICFERS . But for me it was good knock in this pitch by Parag. Played with maturity , but should have kept faith on Sundar and played bit longer. it was just a mishit he got out too..poor bowl deserved to be hit just bad connection..could have gone for six too...so will give him a pass this time.. tweaker 1
vvvslaxman Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 47 minutes ago, maniac said: Sundar is technically more compact than Riyan however Riyan can be more destructive. He should stop playing the reverse sweep; Twice bowled. Once in the Gabba Test. And now. maniac 1
maniac Posted July 30, 2024 Author Posted July 30, 2024 I think only @rkt.india rated his bowling highly if I remember.
vvvslaxman Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, maniac said: I think only @rkt.india rated his bowling highly if I remember. I always rated him ebcause i have seen his clippings. maniac 1
vvvslaxman Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 Another lower order batsman who has developed his bowling skill is Sharukh khan. But a batting hack.
Need4Speed Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 14 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Another lower order batsman who has developed his bowling skill is Sharukh khan. But a batting hack. with the height and power along with experience he has..he should have done better..atleast I expected more from him..could have been a great asset with his improved bowling..
Suhaan Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 15 hours ago, maniac said: After Rohit-Kohli era there is no bonafide superstar. Maybe Bumrah. the closest I can see get to that megastar level in Indian team is Jaiswal. Gill at best will have Rahul Dravid level craze. That has nothing to do with skills,fans aren't that loyal anymore if you leave out plastic bots online
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