zen Posted Thursday at 05:00 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:00 PM Just now, coffee_rules said: Who feels like that? Do you feel British were good for India? BD is a country not part of India. It is not like BJP has any jurisdiction in BD to help Hindus there. Any country can help people in any other country with good intentions. In fact even powerful private groups can do that. Blah blah is an excuse to not help Hindus in BDl This was a great opportunity for India to display its leadership in subcon (if it were a leader) and for BJP to actually do something for the Hindus other than theatrics! Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted Thursday at 05:08 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:08 PM 2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: What do you mean by discriminate against Hindus of BD? We showed solidarity that’s all we can do, I even posted a few pages ago on being on an India Day parade float in NYC to stop Hindu genocide in BD. I don’t know what else we outside BD can do. BD Hindus should fight it out themselves, they have no international support , least from India. I root for BJP to help Hindus in India and agree that they can’t do more for BD Hindus. I am not understanding your pov totally. Solidarity does not count for much when people are being hunted down. Govt (BJP happens to be in power and it is a party that works for Hindus, being supported by Bajrang Dal, Vishwa Hindu Parishad, and such) needs to take a solid action on ground that includes: a) The Indian Embassy in BD (Embassies tend to work as if they are vacation destinations) needs to look to find and create safe places for BD Hindus. b) Provide a passage to India by air, water, and land to those who want to move out. Many realize that this is an unprecedented event that can wipe out a community in BD. This is an outlier event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted Thursday at 05:23 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:23 PM (edited) There are leaders within BJP that too are advocating helping the Hindus in BD. I am pretty sure many people in India want to help this community. Here is a news piece on Hindu - Link In West Bengal and elsewhere, BJP leaders clamour for support to Bangladeshi Hindus seeking entry into India; BSF says the Home Ministry has instructed it to prevent any entry without visas. The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) is in a fix over repeated demands within the party to protect members of the Hindu community facing violence in Bangladesh. The Border Security Force (BSF), however, is denying entry to all undocumented immigrants, irrespective of religion; more problematically for the party, its own leaders in in northeastern India do not want a major influx of Bangladeshi immigrants into their States. Ever since the Sheikh Hasina government fell in Dhaka, and reports of violence — including against minority Hindus — have surfaced, leaders of the BJP and the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) have appealed to the Union government to ensure protection for the embattled community. Help Bangladesh refugees’ West Bengal BJP leader Suvendu Adhikari met with Union Home Minister Amit Shah on the issue recently, arguing that the instability in Bangladesh could result in “crores” of people trying to cross into India, especially into West Bengal. He is also reported to have told Mr. Shah that the situation underscored the necessity of the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) that grants Indian citizenship to applicants who are minorities from neighbouring countries seeking to escape persecution, although under the law, such applicants should have entered the country by 2014. Former Rajya Sabha MP Swapan Dasgupta extended this concern to “Bangladeshi notables who are friendly to India”, after the BSF denied them entry into the country because they had no valid visas. “They were, in effect thrown to the wolves,” he posted on X, appealing to Mr. Shah to “go beyond niceties and be more understanding towards our traditional friends in Bangladesh.” No entry sans visa’ “We are stopping Bangladeshis, irrespective of religion. If a person is without any documents, we have instructions from the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) to not allow them to enter India. State police is also helping us keep a vigil all along the Bangladesh border. They are patrolling in the depth areas,” a top BSF official said on condition of anonymity. India does not officially recognise “refugees” and is not a signatory to the United Nations Refugee Convention of 1951 and its 1967 Protocol. A BSF official said that there have been two instances when Bangladeshi officials sought help after their office was attacked by a mob. “Across Dawki checkpost in Meghalaya, rioters struck at a customs office in Bangladesh to loot seized goods. We got a call from the Bangladeshi officials and they were allowed to come up to the zero line till the mob dispersed,” said the official. The zero line denotes a territory beyond the fence at the international boundary. The MHA’s tough stance regarding the Bangladesh border appears to be in stark contrast to its approach towards refugees from Myanmar; as recently as November 2023, around 5,400 people from Myanmar were accommodated in temporary settlements in the border district of Kamjong in Manipur, amid fears of aerial bombardment by the ruling junta. Since 2021, over 40,000 people from Myanmar belonging to Chin-Kuki ethnic groups have taken refuge in Mizoram. In official records, they are being referred as “officially displaced persons” and the MHA has mandated that their biometrics are recorded so they can be accounted for. Edited Thursday at 05:36 PM by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted Thursday at 06:24 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:24 PM Informative thread ... Few accounts were claiming he is alive & most likely arrested but all that seems to be hogwash coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted Thursday at 09:21 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:21 PM (edited) Ab Taandav hoga? Ya kadi ninda? Edited Thursday at 09:22 PM by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vayuu1 Posted Friday at 12:46 AM Share Posted Friday at 12:46 AM 6 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Informative thread ... Few accounts were claiming he is alive & most likely arrested but all that seems to be hogwash He was killed very brutally and his death was celebrated by radicals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted Friday at 04:12 AM Share Posted Friday at 04:12 AM Bengali Hindus aren't bothered, in fact seem to welcome their annihilation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted Friday at 04:13 AM Share Posted Friday at 04:13 AM BD has always been as bad or worse than Pakistan when it comes to treatment of minorities. They had better PR under Hasina, now that mask has slipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted Friday at 06:42 AM Share Posted Friday at 06:42 AM 2 hours ago, Gollum said: BD has always been as bad or worse than Pakistan when it comes to treatment of minorities. They had better PR under Hasina, now that mask has slipped. Pakistan actually has better treatment of Hindus than Bangladesh . https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_Pakistan Stats tell that after partition they were 1.6% . They are now increased to 2.17%. Stats tell you much bigger picture that there is no systematic persecution like Bangladesh where they are constantly reducing. Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted Friday at 08:04 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:04 AM (edited) @zen @Lone Wolf forget about letting in BD Hindus fleeing persecution. BSF shot dead a 13 year old Hindu girl Shwarna Das who tried to cross the border to India along with her family. These heartless brutes allow in Rohingyas, cow/drug smugglers and BD mullahs by the dozens but not persecuted Hindus. Imagine the nerve to shoot dead a little girl in cold blood. Edited Friday at 08:05 AM by Gollum Lone Wolf and zen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted Friday at 08:21 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:21 AM (edited) Politicians in Gujarat esp. in cities where floods have wrecked havoc are facing public anger: https://indianexpress.com/article/political-pulse/flood-hit-vadodara-bjp-public-ire-heckling-leaders-dumping-garbage-9543912/lite/ BJP is taking public vote for granted. Even Modiji’s popularity may not save the party if it continues to rest on its laurels. It has been infected with the same disease that Congress suffered from - disrespecting the voters. The mishandling of BD Hindus’ issue has not down well with many as well. Need prompt action or your beloved “khursi” will be taken away by the public Edited Friday at 08:44 AM by zen Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted Friday at 08:38 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:38 AM (edited) 36 minutes ago, Gollum said: @zen @Lone Wolf forget about letting in BD Hindus fleeing persecution. BSF shot dead a 13 year old Hindu girl Shwarna Das who tried to cross the border to India along with her family. These heartless brutes allow in Rohingyas, cow/drug smugglers and BD mullahs by the dozens but not persecuted Hindus. Imagine the nerve to shoot dead a little girl in cold blood. People expected a humane response from a government that claimed to be pro Hindus. Organizations such as “Vishwa Hindu Parishad”, “Bajrang Dal”, “RSS”, etc., support it too. This was an opportunity for these “leaders” to do something but it appears as if they only focus on the “theatrics”. They have devised an easy formula to gain votes - bash Rahul & do some stunt on Hinduism when the elections are near, along with going abroad to please the NRIs, who are invested in India’s cultural heritage. The age old problem of a Hindu not steeping up for other Hindus when they are in dire need, resurfaces again and again. At the critical moment: A Hindu becomes a Pakistani or a Bangladeshi (and then many ask Muslims to leave India, while treating foreign Hindus as foreign as well). Then it becomes, these Hindus belong to this state, why should we worry? (No wonder Kashmiri pandits are still in doldrums). If that does not work, it goes to caste, neighborhood, etc. If that does not work too, the old - we lack money, resources, India is a poor country (when it serves them advertise its growth rates, GDP, etc.), we need to look after ourselves first, and so on. The game to find an excuse to not help continues in one fashion or the other. Many folks have been formulaic and blatant that they do not even need to think to find an excuse. It is time that these folks are called out for this. People of India should not vote for BJP if Hindus in BD are not protected by it. Let alone protecting them, they are trying to alienate them. Who would ask for visas to people fleeing a blood thirsty mob? Many would have run with just their clothes on!! Edited Friday at 08:43 AM by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted Friday at 08:52 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:52 AM Create an environment where a politician is afraid to even call himself a politician, and begins to actually work for the people rather than for votes. Can’t continue to fool people by promising this or that, and running away with their tails tucked in at the time of real need - a life or death situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted Friday at 08:54 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:54 AM We are not BJP, we are not Congress, we are people. We are humans that care for other humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted Friday at 09:18 AM Share Posted Friday at 09:18 AM 1 hour ago, Gollum said: @zen @Lone Wolf forget about letting in BD Hindus fleeing persecution. BSF shot dead a 13 year old Hindu girl Shwarna Das who tried to cross the border to India along with her family. These heartless brutes allow in Rohingyas, cow/drug smugglers and BD mullahs by the dozens but not persecuted Hindus. Imagine the nerve to shoot dead a little girl in cold blood. Vishwaguru is something else... CIA has complete hold of him and his gormint Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted Friday at 09:55 AM Share Posted Friday at 09:55 AM I have moved away from social media but tweeted the below: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted Friday at 02:46 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:46 PM Indian cricket team is a slave to its PR team. Their eyes are on Rafah, but not on Bangladeshi Hindus. Same with Bollydawood dallahs mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggot_brain Posted Friday at 02:55 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:55 PM 10 hours ago, Gollum said: Bengali Hindus aren't bothered, in fact seem to welcome their annihilation. We are bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted Friday at 04:35 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:35 PM After few days have passed, Now I think in a way, It was good that Bangladeshis Jamaat and BNP and Students themselves chucked out Hasina. During her tenure she was never told "NO" by GoI simply because She had created a good will. But cost of it to iNdia was too high. Now , We can treat these terror sympathisers without Goodwill factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted Friday at 09:29 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:29 PM 13 hours ago, Gollum said: @zen @Lone Wolf forget about letting in BD Hindus fleeing persecution. BSF shot dead a 13 year old Hindu girl Shwarna Das who tried to cross the border to India along with her family. These heartless brutes allow in Rohingyas, cow/drug smugglers and BD mullahs by the dozens but not persecuted Hindus. Imagine the nerve to shoot dead a little girl in cold blood. She was shot by Border Guard Bangladesh police, not by our BSF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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